Why Troy Baker was cast to play Ocelot in Metal Gear Solid V

In Kojima Station episode 6, the studio’s official podcast, Kojima Productions staff members gave some insight into the casting process for Metal Gear Solid V in response to a question sent in by a fan about why they cast Troy Baker to play Ocelot (who was previously voiced by Patric Zimmerman and Josh Keaton). Assistant producer Sean Eyestone responded to this question.

It really goes based on the role. We don’t specifically, generally don’t look and say: we want this actor in particular. It’s more, we have an audition process. […] We had a bunch of people come in and audition for all the various roles. What we were looking for was a little bit of an older Ocelot. A little older than what he was in MGS3, but not quite as old as he was in MGS1. So someone who could fill that gap in between.

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We also needed somebody who could do a lot of good facial capture as well because that is something that has been added this time: not just voice but also facial. […] And also someone who kind of had a similar face [to Ocelot]. That came from our animators, that we want to make sure that person who does the facial capture actually has a face that’s compatible to the characters.

Christopher Johns added:

It was actually very hard to find the right actors for everybody, because it had to be compatible facially and have a great performance, and good acting.

Eyestone:

There was an extra layer added onto that – usually we just listen to the audio when we make our decisions […], this time we also had pictures sent in and video.

These were then sent to the animators to see if they could use the actor.

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Eyestone continued:

Troy had the right look, he had the right voice, and he of course has the acting skills. So that’s how we arrived at Troy, and everyone else in the cast as well. And we’re fortunate to have a really great cast, we’re very happy with that.

Source: Kojima Station Episode 6

  • ObsessedGeorge

    I was very happy when l found out that the new Ocelot was Troy Baker’s voice! I basically like everything Baker voices! He has an amazing range. Joel in TLoU was my favorite.

    • Yeah, it sounds great, he really sounds like Ocelot. His way of speaking.

      • SolidKenny87

        The way he talked about Big Boss’ binoculars reminded me of Zimmerman’s Ocelot explaining what each button does in the torture session in MGS1.

    • Datguy8923

      I just hope we can radio him during a mission and he says “You’re pretty good!” after doing something amazing. Like CQC’ing a tank or something.

      • Guest

        If only he was there during the Cocoon battle

        • Datguy8923

          Lmao.

    • oo7PorscheMGS

      Agreed, but it has a lot to do with the great writing given to him by ND as well. Great great great character because both those variables were executed amazingly well. Intense character.

  • LukesAlike

    He’s pretty good…

  • César H. Sandoval

    Allow me now to point the fact that Hayter’s face resembles the one of Snake a lot more than Keifer’s does, mocap animators.

    • Datguy8923

      I dunno. Big Boss is starting to look a bit different compared to Solid Snake now.

    • Shalashaska

      Lol, they used four different faces melded together to get Snake’s (and Kaz’s too I believe?) faces. All Keifer is really doing is expressions, lip movement, etc. etc. Baker, on the other hand, that is his face on Ocelot. They did the whole, 360-put-me-in-the-game thing.

      [EDIT] Also his face is one of the four I think. Can’t remember exactly.

    • oo7PorscheMGS

      Haha..i really am STILL hoping that Hayter is still in the game and playing Solid Snake…..i cant get over the “fact” of how it seems they disrespected David Hayter…let alone made a HUGE mistake by chaging one of THE, THE, THEEEEeEEeEEEEEeE most ICONIC and RECOGNIZABLE voices in gaming. I still cant get over it, still cant understand…. huge, huge mistake…crazy. Keifer is VERY good, but cmon, its not snake! Ugh…he needs to reveal Hayter / SS in his e3 trailer. I’m workin myself up now. Seriously, Hayter said they didnt even call him to let him know they were going with a diff. voice actor….how disrespectful is THAT??!? : /

      • Dakan45

        damn kid, speak enlgish.

        • oo7PorscheMGS

          Damn troll, get a life and stop reading playstation posts since you love your pc so much. Jealous you cant play MGS V, is that why you feel the need to always cry about playstation? Keep crying, immature loser.

          • No Place For Hayter

            Dude your post was pretty far out.
            You didn’t even ask him to be nicer you just insuted him a ton, I don’t think that is the best way to communicate let alone get a point across, to me it looks like you just wanted to insult and upset him, it’s not a bad thing to have a comment that is hard to read/follow (looking at your comment here shows me you can write in great English so you could just go over and proof read your comments in the future if you hate this kind of response) but it is a bad thing when you respond like a 3 year old to attack those who point out your comment.

          • oo7PorscheMGS

            Dude, you obviously dont know who Dakan45 is…he makes fun of playststion fans and all playstation games/articles….dude has mental issues…loves PC but is always in PS4 articles talking trash like a child….look at his profile and you’d know….and excuse me, my english is just fine, proofread my comments?? LOL, I know how to spell and proofread, thanks, I was a 3.9 GPA in school ; ) ….and I dont know about you but I dont bow down to trolls nor do I care to be nice to them 😉

          • No Place For Hayter

            o.0
            If you know the dudes a tard ignore him, being a tard back makes you look like a tard. ??? no need to brag about how awesome you are, I already said your English can be great, I was just saying that if you hate the response you get than pay MORE attention to your comments not “OMG seriously learn English than TRY to write a comment”.

            Ignoring a troll and or being nice to them has nothing to do with “bowing down to them”, you’re reading way to much into what I said and applying what you believe to it, just take my comment at face value, you don’t agree? that’s perfectly fine, but this is the internet it’s not like you have to pay someone back and or they offended you and they have to know about it, I mean it’s just words the worst you could do is give a troll a laugh because you took his comment seriously.

            And whether Dakan45 is a troll or not is not relevant here, because he only said that your comment was made of broken English, his past comments has nothing to do with his comment here. I must be pretty bored to be having this kind of conversation, not that it’s not important it just seems so trolly………. You know, the feeling you get when talking to someone that probably isn’t even listening, lol.

          • Dakan45

            oh please the guy has mental issues he goes to pc articles and trolls and calls people idiots and mentalyl ill when they try to have an argument.

            This guy has copied and pasted the same comment to me for 100000 times.

            He gone to all my posts which were not replying to him and copy and pasted a message calling me stupid and mentally ill.

            He is a stupid kid that wants to have the last word on anything thus so replied to all my messages with the same copy and paste insults and didnt stop until i stoped replying.

            He is a kid and a troll.

            But hey apparently it is me who is the troll who actually tried to have a discussion all 3 times i encountered him.

          • oo7PorscheMGS

            Waaa waa waaa, we can see who the troll / fanbaby is just by looking at who came here acting like the sad loser he is. Get help, u r mentally ill. Hope u understand my english loser, or get the message. Go f yourself, youre trash and everyone can see it on display in every thread youre in. Ill copy / paste to my hearts content…only spreading the truth. Keep crying, u only making a bigger fool of yourself. Go look at my twitter again, stalker….. if anyone DOESNT think ur mentally ill that would be a surprise. Pathetic fanbaby trash.

          • No Place For Hayter

            I wouldn’t call you a troll, but if you knew the guy and didn’t like him you probably shouldn’t have replied to his comment. I have no history on any of this so I’m not gonna take sides or even be a part of these conversations, I was only commenting to possibly avoid things like this in the future as I don’t see it often here at MGI. Despite what either of you know I think it would be best to avoid and ignore each other, 007PorscheMGS, doesn’t like this approach as he see’s it as “bowing down”, but at least you can avoid and ignore him to prevent this kind of argument in the future. Like I said I have no knewledge about any of your history with the guy, so any recommendations I give is just my input from an outside prospective.

            This is my last comment on the subject because I myself will not be drawn into this debate further with more replies, I have said my piece and that’s all I have to say.

          • Dakan45

            I spot him 3 times, all 3 times he said that sony exlusives are the best and gloated about it, i and some other people had diffirent opinions, he gone ape sh!t because we had a diffirent opinion and started trolling everywhere. Basicly there is no discussion to be had with him, sony exlusives are like hitting a nerve to him.

            He made 98 replies to me in which he just called me mentally ill.

            Who is the troll now eh?

          • Dakan45

            lol likewise i see you on all pc articles and all you do is posting nonsense about how much you love sony exlusives and trollnig.

          • oo7PorscheMGS

            …i play pc. I only pick on lil bit$hes like u who are trolls / fanboys. Get a life loser.

          • Dakan45

            you spammed me everywhere with 20 messages and you telling me that i am a troll and i should get a life?

            Please get real, the only fanboy here is you, i also play on pc but i have a ps3 for a few exlusives, i only like resistance and uncharted, the rest are not so hot, god of war 3 wasnt as good as 2 and i never cared about killzone or quantic’ dreams garbage, but you are the one who is being a massive fanboy just because those are sony exlusives.

          • solo_wing

            I thought Venom Snake is not Big Boss, hence the change to Kiefer?

        • SnatcherMkII

          *English

          And yeah, I could barely make out what he was sayin’.

          • oo7PorscheMGS

            Either you need glasses / a bigger brain to understand my VERY easy to read comment, or you’re one of the fake Profiles Dakan45 makes to troll with and upvote his own comments with. Either way, dont f with me, I dont bow down to stupidity 😉

        • Aggrobiscuit

          Try using capitalization and spelling words correctly before lecturing others.

      • Janeo

        I can’t believe people are still going on about hayter it’s time to get over it. Yes konami could have handled it better then they did but in the end that’s Hollywood sometimes actors get replaced it’s part of the job. Keifer is big boss and he does a terrific job hayter would have done great to but we get Keifer so he is snake, hayter is still solid snake though so I think there is hope of seeing him in a game again. I was upset about it when it announced hayter wasn’t involved but I got over it quickly you should get over you will enjoy the game more

        • oo7PorscheMGS

          Its about respect….THINK about if..if you worked a job for 10+ years wouldnt you think you at LEAST deserve a notice that you wont be in the next game? I personally still think Hayter will be in MGS V as Solid Snake, but we’ll see. If not, as I said I think it shows a complete lack of respect to David Hayter. Nothing wrong with changing a voice actor if a creator REALLY thinks it’s whats best..but there is something wrong about the way Konami did it.

        • No Place For Hayter

          I just have a different opinion and view on the subject, I wouldn’t start bugging you about how you don’t care about the universe or the character and the story like a troll would because you do care you just have a different opinion, there is need to to tell people who legitimately want Hayter back to “get over it” like it’s some minor thing, it doesn’t matter as much to you but for other people (like me) it ruins most of the immersion of the characters and story, and to me Big Boss is not the same character with Sutherland voicing him and personally I think Sutherland’s voice acting is terrible in GZ. All of this is my opinion and I would not tell other people to “get over it” as if their opinion was just some minor obstacle that they should quickly get over while I use mine to exclude theirs.

          • Janeo

            I felt the same way you did a year ago but I was fine with it after I saw the e3 trailer we didn’t just get some crap actor to replace hayter like how splinter cell got a young guy to play the role of Sam fisher who would be close to 50, we got a really good actor that is always going to give a good performance. Big boss and solid snake are different people david hayter was a young big boss Keifer is a middle aged big boss and Doyle is an elderly big boss ocelots voice keeps changing why can’t big boss’s do the same. I loved Keifers performance in GZ he captured big boss perfectly some of his best stuff was in the briefing tapes to me he is still the same character who sounds different. I guess I can’t tell you to get over it but I just hope you can still enjoy the story when TPP comes around.

          • No Place For Hayter

            lol unfortunately for the part of me that wants Hayter back I still really liked GZ and I will love TPP, despite Big Boss’s character being really different for me I will still be able to enjoy the story for what it is and all the other characters will be able to carry what others cant.

          • Janeo

            Well that’s good to know. We disagree but we both still love the series so I like how we can have respectful arguments that doesn’t happen very often on the internet.

        • solo_wing

          It doesn’t matter… Kiefer plays Venom Snake, not Big Boss

      • mikeyyytexas

        Meanwhile… On imdb…

        • No Place For Hayter

          I hope you are not serious, IMDB is the worst source of information for a video game that is not even out yet, the second worse is any Wikipedia, these websites and sources are edited by the people who put up things they want. Normally you can trust these things to a certain extent but during times like this (when there is hype for a game and its not out yet, especially MGS) you will get a lot misinformation from those websites and it is best to stay away from them until the game is released and we see the credits in game and people play the whole thing.

          That is of course, if you are serious.

          • mikeyyytexas

            I was not serious… I just get a kick outta watching people complain about Sutherland over Hayter… Don’t get it twisted I think Hayter was an awesome BB/SS but I’m happy with Kiefer Sutherland’s performance… I know the way everything went down wasn’t cool but this shit is old already. Every time I read about someone complaining I can’t help but roll my eyes and by all means we get it, you’re upset but damn. It’s time to let it go…

            However Hayter coming back as David wouldn’t make sense since the kid can’t have a raspy voice at the age of 12 it just wouldn’t make any sense

          • No Place For Hayter

            lol, ok. Agreed. I can’t believe I have seen people use IMDB as some sort of evidence lol.

            Yeah Hayter wouldn’t be able to do a young Solid Snake……….Now I’m thinking, Hayer can make his voice very rough and raspy… How much of that rough and raspy could he remove? I personally don’t think he could do a 12 year old, that would be nuts, but I am curious of how young he can make his snake voice sound.

          • mikeyyytexas

            I agree it’s completely off the wall especially when so much has yet to be revealed…

            That’s a good question… I kinda honestly think he could maybe be somewhere around MGS2 snake it would still be an adult SS nowhere near kid status

          • oo7PorscheMGS

            Open your mind..mgs doesnt always take place in one time period. We dont know, and its not life or death but all I’m sayin is they either obviously disrespected David Hayter, or (hopefully) it’s Kojima messing with fans again. Just because it’s been months doesnt mean they dont owe fans/hayter an explanation anymore.

          • They already gave an explanation.

  • No Place For Hayter

    I wonder if they had an audition process for Big Boss………

    • Sly

      Nope Avi Arad said Kiefer and Kojima hopped on it.

      • ‘So that’s how we arrived at Troy, and everyone else in the cast as well’

        • Anonymous GX

          Besides Kiefer that is.

          • Janeo

            Well he still would of had to audition, sure they had him mind but they weren’t just going to call him and tell him he has the job if he wants it, he still would of had to go in and audition and if they didn’t like him I’m sure they would of went for someone else. Even when the casting team has an actor in mind they never just automatically give them the job everyone has to audition including Keifer

          • Anonymous GX

            No. Are you listening to what you’re saying? It’s Kiefer Sutherland, star of 24. There is no casting interview. Was there an audition? Yes, in order to show him what sort of character he would be playing. You don’t deny the president lunch, you ask him what he likes.

  • Zven

    Troy is amazing and is having an unbelievable career playing so many good characters, now Ocelot, can’t wait.

  • hehuoeuehe

    Troy Baker should’ve played BIG BOSS; maybe he could’ve pulled off the iconic Snake (Hayter) voice… just look at Joker in Arkham Origins…

  • Machine Gun Kid

    “ITS NOT JUST THEM, THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS YOU DEAD. YOULL HAVE TO JOIN UP WITH MILLER AND BUILD THAT PRIVATE ARMY OF YOURS ONE MORE TIME. BUT FIRST WE NEED TO SAVE MILLER, HES IN AFGHANISTAN. YOUR AH LEGEND IN THE EYES OF THOSE WHO LIVE ON THE BATTLEFIELD, THATS WHY YOU HAVE TO HANDLE THIS MISSION YOURSELF. THATS HOW KAZ WOULD WANT IT. NOW GO!…LET THE LEGEND COME BACK TO LIFE”-Troy Baker/Ocelot MGSV

  • Valentine Stokes

    As an aspiring voice actor I respect Troy Baker, sometimes it gets a litter tiring hearing his voice in just about every game I play. But I would have preferred someone else for Ocelot sometimes I can really hear the Texan twang in his voice. Still good but not great.

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  • Stephan Watkins

    The reason why he’s voice acted ocelot is because he is a little older than mgs3 and portable ops. That’s why Troy was chosen to voice act Ocelot. 🙂 He did a GREAT GREAT job 🙂

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