Kojima talks about Solid Snake taking on Vulcan Raven’s tank single-handedly

Maybe you remember the amusing codec call in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots during which Otacon wants to know how Snake was able to defeat Raven’s M1 tank single-handedly. It seems like this chat was inspired by a real conversation between Kojima and an army squad leader. On Twitter, Kojima said:

“When I visited desert range in US army base to interview tanker squad team for MGS1, I asked squad leader how could a man with flesh and blood defeat tanker. He said “such situation won’t happen” with complete denial. It makes total sense by watching “FURY”..”

It’s interesting how years later he would use this anecdote in Metal Gear Solid 4, with Otacon having asked this question to an army officer. Still, Snake was able to defeat the tank, because, well… he’s a badass. Scientifically proven.

Source: Twitter (1 and 2)

  • im a dot

    I loved that codec

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      Somehow I did not encounter this conversation in any of my 4 playthroughs..shame

      • It’s one of these optional CODEC conversations, there are quite a lot in Shadow Moses when you call Otacon at different locations. You have to call him just after passing through the canyon for this one.

        • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

          Ah ok. I heard some of the optional ones but somehow overlooked this one. Passing through the canyon and when “The Best is Yet To Come” starts playing right? I haven’t played this game in like..almost 2 years now. Been playing starting from Snake Eater with the Legacy Collection and finished Peacewalker not too long ago. Now I have to get Ground Zeroes and then The Phantom Pain. Then I plan to play the rest of the chronology all the way through 4 and finally play Revengeance. Wish me luck. I’d say my favorite was 4, even though Snake Eater 3D on 3DS was my first and I’d played 2 before even playing 4.

  • César H. Sandoval

    Solid Snake was such a badass, the man who made the impossible, possible.

    i hope we get to play him again one day.

    • moto hellogoto

      Me too man. I personally hated the ending of MGS4. Snake deserved better than to rapidly grow old and watch mc poopy pants marry the girl he loved. I don’t care how ridiculous it would be – I hope they find a cure for Snake’s rapid aging so we can see him save the world again.

      Kojima only made him old because he thought he was going to end the MGS games. Now we will never get to see snake again.

      • Big_Boss88

        If I remember correctly Kojima first wasn’t going to end MGS4 the way it did, but instead he had another ending in mind. But for some reason he did it this way, I think I read something about it long time ago or then it’s all just in my head lol.

        • Yes, he wanted Snake and Otacon to be executed at the end (that’s why Here’s To You plays during the end credits). But it’s normal for things to change during development, for example MGS2 would originally take place in Iraq.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            MGS2 in Iraq? I’ve never heard this story. Tell me more.

          • From Wikipedia:

            According to Hideo Kojima in the documentary Metal Gear Saga Vol. 1, the original plot of the game revolved around nuclear weapon inspections in Iraq and Iran. In the plot, Solid Snake was supposed to stop the new Metal Gear while it was located on an aircraft carrier, in a certain time limit. He was also supposed to defeat Liquid Snake and his group, implying that Liquid had faked his death from FOXDIE in the previous game. However, about six months into the project, tensions in the Middle East began to arise, so the development team decided that they couldn’t make a game with such a plot. The tanker in the final version is based on the original plot.


          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Interesting. I figured once I saw it was originally meant to be in Iraq and Iran, that tensions were the reason for the change. Probably why the plot is the most confusing of all the games LOL. Wonder if 9/11 had any lasting influence on the game? Any idea if the change to Raiden was synonymous with the plot change?

          • Remember when Arsenal Gear goes berserk and crashes into Manhattan? The actual part where this happens has been cut out at the last minute, when 9/11 happened. So yeah, it had a direct influence. That’s why the cutscene fades out when Arsenal Gear is in the bay, and fades in after the crash.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Oh I think I know what you’re talking about but it’s been a few years since I played it do I’d have to play through again to see it and remember.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Also, wouldn’t it be cool if MGS4 were made in Fox Engine? I don’t want it to take on that uber realistic look GZ and TPP have going – it has to be close to the visual aesthetic of the original release or at least the box art for the game and keep that feel that’s distinct from all the other games.

          • decoyF0XX

            Ah this would have been a really awesome game! Kinda sad there’s no sensible way to bring Liquid back except Konami makes a reboot.

          • Or if they make a prequel.

          • decoyF0XX

            Thing is, I want another fist fight between Solid and Liquid lol. But playing as Liquid pre-Shadow Moses won’t be bad though.

  • CrazyGuy207

    He said “such a situation wouldn’t happen”, but what if it did? Would it work then? Maybe throw a grenade down the barrel of the tank?

    • Big_Boss88

      They did that in Expendables 3, throw a grenade inside the barrel. Indiana Jones stuffed a rock in there, which seemed to work too so maybe something like that would be possible :D. Just need to have balls of steel to go 1vs1 with a tank lol.

      • WhatTheJuicay

        Tom Hanks killed a tank with a pistol.

        sort of…

      • Hanna-Mari

        How about Solid Snake in Expendables? Ha ha awesome

      • Monkey

        It happened in Twin Snakes as well. He baseball throws a grenade down the barrel and walks away from the resulting explosion (Cool guys never look at explosions)

  • Le Guy who drowned quiet

    Well the reason is He is hayter+van damme+Russel aka Plissken

  • Frederick Guese

    In the original script, Otacon says “Your the greatest!”, in the US versions we get ‘Your the shit!’ thanks to a localzation team that let them well localzie. Glad it had some of the least akward lines and keeping shit like “We managed to avoid drowning!” and “Can love bloom on the battlefield?” to a minimun. Glad Dolph was replaced as their international coordinator.

  • Best game ever.

  • SonOfBigBoss

    People I discovered Ishmael is the arkham knight!!!!!!

  • Big_Boss88

    Nice :D, I had no idea about this connection lol but it’s really cool to put that into MGS4. Solid Snake is such a badass to be able to do that ;), although wouldn’t maybe be that easy for real xD. Big Boss might be even more badass, as he could maybe destroy a tank in TPP by punching it full of holes with his super prosthetic arm.
    I’m really excited to go watch the tank war movie FURY this month, I love tanks :D.

  • LukesAlike

    For once Otacon loses his composure. Well, not really…

  • gerber

    Am I the only one who though this codec was cheesy and unnecesarry?

  • AgitAngst

    Haha. 😀 I forgot this conversation.

  • Will

    Otacon asking Snake how he managed to deafeat a Tank, when the man had destroyed at least two Metal Gears before, with C4s! LOL

  • SonOfBigBoss

    I had a drem today that i saw the ending of tpp and it was like that
    there was an attack at mother base by the patriots and you had to clean it up and when you finish to kill the soldiers it would cut to Kaz and you would play as him and having to kill chico who is the real traitor and then kaz couldnt do it so big boss appears take the gun from his hand and says what have we become so they look to each other and say well find a way.
    so i woke up

    Sorry for bad english

  • Emerturon .

    Well my Big Boss in peace walker destroyed 100 tanks

  • Fraaancis

    So, Kojima is Otacon in the game.
    I mean, real Kojima, not “offical Kojima”, figure from News and Videos (Kojima in PW and GZ), but his feelings and thoughts (Otacon and his father).

  • keijo

    Ever heard of this?

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