Kojima Productions discusses memorable lines from Metal Gear Solid 3, and Tamari cries over The Boss’s fate

During the 26th episode of Kojima Station, Etsu Tamari, Shuyo Murata and Kenji Yano looked back at Metal Gear Solid 3 while discussing some of the characters and their famous quotes. At the bottom of the screen, they displayed Tamari’s ’emotional gauge’, and it fills up as he talks about The Boss.

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Discussing the memorable and famous lines by several of the game’s characters, they start with The Boss.

The Boss

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  • “I didn’t. I’m loyal to the end, to my purpose.”

This is The Boss’s answer when Snake asks her why she defected to The Soviet Union.

  • “We have no tomorrow. But we can still have hope for the future.”

This is the line that makes Tamari’s emotional gauge max out. The Boss was forced to sacrifice her own life for her country, after she was exposed to nuclear radiation herself and unable to bear children. And yet, she still talks about having hope for the future.

  • “There is nothing more for me to give you. All that’s left for you to take is my life, by your own hand.”

The Boss says this just before her final fight with Naked Snake, at the end of the game.

  • “Let’s make this the greatest 10 minutes of our lives, Jack.”

This is the ultimate expression of love between them. These words were chosen by Tamari himself, but he still loses it when he hears them.

Volgin

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  • “Remember the Alamo.”

This quote shows his desire for revenge (it’s referring to the battle of the Alamo during the Texas Revolution).

  • “Kuwabara, kuwabara.”

According to superstitious beliefs, saying the words will ward of lightning. At the end of the game, he refuses to say them, stating ‘who’s afraid of a little thunder?’, only to be stricken down by a bolt.

  • “Yes, yes! Let yourself go! That is what I want to see.”

Volgin is sadist who loves to torture people as a means of gaining control over them and the situation. But ironically, during this scene Volgin is the one talking an revealing information, while Snake remains silent.

Eva

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  • “There… is your answer.”

When Snake first meets EVA he asks her for the password so he can confirm she is the real EVA. But guards show up, EVA disposes of the soldiers, and then she speaks these words. Although she might have actually known the correct answer.

  • “I can fall in love – if it’s part of the mission. Even with you…”

Here it is hard to tell if she is saying the truth or not.

  • “And… you have to live.”

EVA says this at the end of the game, in the message she left Snake on the tape recorder. This is one of the few lines by EVA where she is being truthful and sincere.

Ocelot

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  • “You’re pretty good.”

This is probably the most iconic line for Ocelot. It was actually first said to him by Big Boss, after which Ocelot repeats the line.

  • “I’ve been waiting for this moment.”

After being defeated by Snake and criticized for his shooting techniques, Ocelot is back with a new chance of showing Snake what he is capable of. He’s equipped himself with a revolver, and wears the jammed bullet around his neck.

  • “Reloading like this… it’s a revolution.”

Ocelot takes up Big Boss’ advice and switches to revolvers. He is thrilled by the way reloading works with these guns. According to Kojima Productions, this line was a tribute to the second and third Matrix movies, called ‘Reloaded’ and ‘Revolutions’.

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Another interesting thing Yano brought up during the discussion is how he thinks Snake losing his eye in MGS3 could symbolize him adopting the leadership role from The Boss. He explained that in Georges Dumรฉzi’s trifunctional hypothesis of European myths, characters are divided into the following three groups: rulers, warriors and producers. For unknown reasons, the rulers often have only one eye, arm or leg. Of course, Big Boss lost his eye during operation Snake Eater, after which he also inherited The Boss’ title to become ‘Big Boss’. Furthermore, in The Phantom Pain he loses his left arm as well, further symbolizing his role as a leader. Yano doesn’t think this was intentionally done by Kojima, but he may have been unconsciously influenced by it through things he watched and read.

The Metal Gear Solid 3 retrospective will continue in the next episode of Kojima Station.

Source: Kojima Station 26, via JunkerHQ

  • Big_Boss88

    I cry tears of joy, because this game is so epic ;D.
    Also that text below the last image was quite interesting indeed.

  • PrinceHeir

    When Big Boss wore an eye patch after surviving that waterfall dive. I knew this guy would be a Legend in the coming years ^^

    Yeah when Big Boss was tortured and lose his eye i felt really bad at him.

    I never knew a Snake would get beat up and pushed to the limit like that. I’m glad it was uncensored. I really hope MGSV will have similar torture scenes even though i feel sad seeing this characters get wrecked XD

    I wonder if there will be a scene where Miller loses his arm and leg?

    Either way i hope MGSV would darker than MGS3.

    • There seems to be at least one torture scene based on the E3 2013 trailer (Quiet getting tortured). But it’s going to be the darkest MGS yet, from what we’ve heard so far.

      • PrinceHeir

        Can’t wait ๐Ÿ˜€

        Though you already saw E3 3013 O__O

        Nyxus, how many MGS have been created during that time? XD

        • Yeah, The Phantom Pain is almost out by then. ๐Ÿ˜›

          Corrected.

          • Big_Boss88

            Haha xD, you have seen too many trailers :O !

      • moto hellogoto

        I really hate seeing women get tortured and abused. That is one scene I will probably skip when I get the game.

        • Devixicus

          And not men? I get that women don’t tend to have the sheer strength men tend to have, but that is sort of sexist to not be able to handle the same thing for a woman. Besides, the bomb removal from Ground Zeroes was pretty bad. It’ll probably be like that.

          • moto hellogoto

            It’s not sexist. I don’t think any gender is better than the other but men and women are different. And it is my belief that men should protect women, so when a man does the opposite of that it is especially heinous to me. I’m not fond of seeing any character get tortured but especially children and females.

          • Devixicus

            Yeah, sorry, it’s a bit of a knee-jerk reaction of mine. I can get that. Although it still won’t really be bad compared to the bomb removal, seeing the controversy around that.

    • Big_Boss88

      I share your feelings. MGS3 torture scene was so shocking and brutal to me, but still kinda awesome. To see my hero get beaten up like that was very sad :(, but he took it all like a badass. Every man got a breaking point though.

      I do hope MGSV gets some kind of scene where we (Big Boss) get tortured, because it is a tradition in MGS. And they are emotional scenes. But maybe this time the whole game is like a huge torture scene for Big Boss and Kaz, to think all the suffering they go through.

      It will also be interesting to see, that we players will be the torturers interrogating Huey etc. Not the other way around. But I still wonder if Skull Face or someone else capture BB and give him some pain. And how Kaz or BB lose the limbs D; … I wanna find out!

      I’m sure TPP will be the darkest :D.

      • PrinceHeir

        I think what shocked(no pun) me the most was when Naked Snake was electrocuted and he urinated while hanging. Man it really broke my heart when i saw that scene :

        I think Kojima mentioned there’s no playable torture scenes which is a shame, but understandable.

        I remember Splinter Cell Blacklist was supposed to have a playable tortured scenes, but the press bitch and complained and eventually they removed it from the game.

        There’s only one or two choices where you can kill the terrorist, but that’s it.

        • Yes he did say that, here is a post about that: http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=9711

          One has to wonder how the Japanese rating board will handle TPP. Ground Zeroes was already censored to some extent, and Kojima always hates that.

          • Big_Boss88

            Games shouldn’t be censored, I mean dark themes like MGSV has is good. Cause it gives lot of emotional feelings etc and memorable scenes. They might as well go and censor every game then that has violence.

            Thx for the link Nyxus, not sure had I read that before ๐Ÿ™‚ !

          • No problem! And Kojima will probably do everything he can to make the game he wants to make.

          • PrinceHeir

            I think the JPN version will just changed the angles just to not see what is happening(like what they did to the surgery scene)

            I’m getting both regions though so it’s fine for me!

          • Yeah, at least it’s a decent way of handling it, better than just cutting entire parts out.

        • Big_Boss88

          I’m glad The Boss didn’t cut the eyes >_<, that would've been super nasty.

          • Yeah, but would she have done it if EVA hadn’t interfered? She probably would have if it was necessary to keep her cover. Although Snake still needed to be able to complete the mission, so that would have been a difficult situation.

          • Big_Boss88

            I think she would have ;O … Damn, it was very close too with Snake’s eye shaking like that.

          • Yeah, thinking about that scene, was that a part where you are able to switch to first person? And see the knife right before your eyes? Never tried it.

          • Big_Boss88

            I don’t remember xD. I have played MGS3 so many times not sure have I seen that. I know can see Sorrow in 1st person during the torture.

          • You also can see Ocelot during the ceremony, behind the window. ๐Ÿ˜›

      • decoyF0XX

        There hasn’t been an MGS game without a torture scene, unless we don’t count the microwave scene as one lol. The interesting part will be when the tables are turned in TPP, when Snake is torturing Huey or when we get to witness Ocelot torturing someone other than us and I wonder how we’re going to feel about that. So far TPP is looking like it will have the most epic story yet, I’m soo stoked!

      • James Raskalov

        What if, plot twist, WE are the one doing the torturing. Torturing someone else.

        • Big_Boss88

          Yes that is what I meant. We have always been the ones taking the pain, but not this time :). Now Big Boss and his buddies want some damn answers, so it’s time to get nasty with Huey and Quiet.

          Even if the torture scenes might not be all playable, they will still be so cool and interesting to see how they go. Like how far will Big Boss, Kaz and Ocelot torture Huey to get some answers etc.

  • Nekkedsnake

    i don’t think i’ve ever really played any other emotionally charged game other than the MGS series. Heavy Rain tho, was a bit of an emotional roller coaster.

    • From The Distant Future

      The entirety of MGS, nothing comes close. Perhaps I’m somewhat biased, but what other franchise? You know? There is none standing beside the legendary series. Heavy Rain was indeed an emotional roller coaster. Very depressing. However, the only game to make me literally tear up, swallow, and look away to think was the masterpiece, heartbreaking The Last of Us.

      • Hanna-Mari

        And now I remember a song called “All Gone” while Joel carries Ellie away. ;_; And those fail scenes…

        • From The Distant Future

          That scene had me on the edge of my seat! I really didn’t know what was going to happen whether he was going to make it or not.

          Another scene (of MANY) that touched my heart in many ways was this one;

          http://youtu.be/_DSiI0ZilWE?t=28m4s

          I can’t imagine the horror she was going through when that filth was all over her. And the moment Joel says, “…Baby girl.” I said to myself, “That’s it.” Because at that moment she practically filled the massive hole in his heart. The acting, face expression, and voices in this game I have NEVER seen anything like it expect in the best of movies!

      • No Place For Hayter

        The only other games that bring a great deal of emotion are some visual novels I have played, the Professor Layton series, and somethings in the Ace Attorney series (that is all of the top of my head), I am very nit-picky and simply don’t like what most others consider awesome, to get to my heart you have to go through my brain, if it doesn’t make complete sense than no matter how emotional it is it will not effect me at all, Heavy Rain was a confusing mess that made no sense and thus I was unaffected by its attempts at emotion because my first thought was not to consider the scene and its emotions and to get immersed but instead were simply tied into “this makes no sense for reason #1 and this character is retarded because of reason #2” if the story is not well written and logical enough to get past my brain filter than it will never reach my heart, for me that is the sign of a truly great story if it is well written emotionally and logically.

  • Mini gear

    Metal gear is the only game series that gives me emotions

    • Big_Boss88

      Me too, well the game saga that gives me the biggest and most nuclear emotions ever ;).
      There is some other for me, like Final Fantasy. The good old ones. But those other games aren’t so nuclear to me like MGS.

      • im a dot

        yeah I do like some final fantasy games. but the newer ones haven’t been too good for me

  • James Raskalov

    I notice EVA is the only one who hasn’t been confirmed to play a role in this game.
    The Boss — of course — will be a driving force.
    Volgin will be hallucinated.
    Ocelot will be tagging along on your revenge quest.
    But EVA?
    Maybe this is a leap, but is it possible she could appear?

    • Definitely possible, but yeah, no official word on it so far.

    • Big_Boss88

      Yeah she might appear in the game. I’m glad we don’t know for sure though, because of them spoilers. Keeping some surprises for us fans is good :).

    • JonDoe

      And, Gray Fox.. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    That last part about the European myths is bad ass

  • Big_Boss88

    http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/10/28/ps4-firmware-update-2-0-masamune-released-full-patch-notes-inside/ OMG yes :D, need to update my PS4.

    Finally get mp3 support, by using USB <(^O^<)!

    • im a dot

      another 20 hours of playtime for me

  • Mini gear

    Three days without news of metal gear kills me.

    • Yeah, it’s been slow…

  • gerber

    I know it’s not the right topic, but I wonder… Ocelot is supposed to be ADAM in MGS3 and support Snake from the very beginning right? So why all this risky shit like trying to shoot Snake in the first encounter, don’t tell me he knew the gun will jam?

  • Ilja Y.

    Hey Nyxus,do you watch / read the anime / manga ‘Naruto’? It’s incredible how similiar Itachi’s and Boss’ fate is.

    From 2:50 on you could quite literally replace the names with MGS-related characters and terms. E.g.:
    Instead of Hidden Leave Village – her nation (USA).

    • Only watched a few anime movies / series, but not many.

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