Metal Gear Rising 2 teased at the Taipei Game Show? [Update: No]

Update 2 (25-2-2015):

So get this, the number 2 was related to Rising after all! See, we’re not crazy. However, it was created for this artwork to celebrate Metal Gear Rising’s second anniversary (which was last Friday to be exact).

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Still, it is a bit strange that it appeared in a PlayStation 4 montage at a game show. And look at the artwork’s caption (translated by IGN): “Congratulations on the second anniversary. After two-years, I wonder what Raiden is up to now?”

Make of it what you will. Either way, we have a cool new artwork.

Source: Platinum Games Blog, IGN

Update: The rumor has been debunked

Aside from Chinese localization, nothing major has been announced at the Taipei Game Show regarding Metal Gear. Although…

During a montage showing off various PlayStation 4 games, we can hear sound clip of a character counting down. Just as he says ‘2’, a shiny metallic number briefly appears. Its typography is very much like the one used for Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.

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Logo Metal Gear Rising Revengeance

Kojima did say in 2012 that a sequel to the game would be possible, and that he would like to work with Platinum Games again, the developers who made the first installment.

If this is indeed pointing towards a sequel to Rising, it would probably mean it’s being developed for the PlayStation 4 (and likely other platforms as well). But keep in mind that this is just a rumor as of now.

Source: Taipei Game Show (around 1:39 in video)

  • Golgari

    Honestly, I’m not excited.
    I liked the Original MGR:R but it was not a Kojima Productions game and the game was half-baked to me. I still enjoyed it but hype was not the same when I saw this:

    Just look at it. A dream Raiden’s game with Kojima Productions touch.
    Maybe second game will be better but for now I need my PHANTOM PAIN fix ASAP. It hurts Kojima. It really hurts…

    • gerber

      I hear ya. Everyone is waiting so impatiently for TPP that no one really cares much about this. Some time after TPP release it would be a nice info, but now I’m like ‘meh who cares’

      • Shalashaska

        Hell yea. Exactly.. Do not even care that this is being made right now even though i love the first game :/

    • Big_Boss88

      I need my Phantom Pain too ;(…… While Rising was fun and cool, I am much more excited about Silent Hills. All desire is TPP for now. I just hope these upcoming months of waiting go fast :).

      • Jonny McLaurine

        Silent hills will be cake!!! Meaning good haha. Also I think it will help Norman reedus get VA expierience and mo-cap. He is a very skilled actor that got screwed in the butt by activision in the walking dead survival game. Michael rooker did well in the game, he has had much expierience. He has been in the best CoD to date imo both black ops.
        Silent hill did well to get Norman reedus and can have TWD Easter eggs. I am very excited about that game. My wife loves Darryl Dixon ;)! Whatever if it means she will game with my boys and I , then so be it.
        They have to get this game right (silent hills) or it will be put out of its misery.
        I been thinking that kojima is gonna go all out next 5 years and release MGS TPP /MGSO3/MGR/Reboot ZoE/Reboot Snatchers. Then he will kick it off with a brand new IP. That’s my prophecy!

        • Big_Boss88

          I love Norman and glad to see him star in SH :D. I wonder how long SH developing takes…few years at least after TPP.
          Or maybe part of KojiPro has already started doing stuff on it, but will kick in full gear when Kojima and Del Toro moves to it later.

          • Jonny McLaurine

            I believe they have been working on it. I think development is going on on both games at same time , just more on TPP but as they wrap up , more and more will be hired for SH. It’s sposes to be released next year. So either the fox engine is really that good at putting games together or yea few years heh

    • Jeff O’Connor

      I respect anyone who did enjoy Revengeance, of course, but it’s just not a game I liked, for numerous reasons, so this does nothing for me either. Maybe someday I’ll change my mind, but… it isn’t likely.

      C’moooon, Phantom Paaaaain!

    • decoyF0XX

      Cyborg Raiden makes me angry so I didn’t even finish MGR. Stopped after the first mission or so and yeah, it was kinda half-baked. Maybe I’ll try the second one out though. Thing is, I can’t enjoy any other game fully till I play TPP. It’s like a curse Kojima has put on me 🙁

      • Big_Boss88

        It is hard for me to enjoy other games too because of TPP ;D. I felt similar after playing Dark Souls years ago, but this is much stronger feeling.

        • Mini gear

          I tried but cant get away from tpp

        • decoyF0XX

          What’s funny is the wait for TPP is not making me enjoy Dark Souls fully now. But it’s a great game haha. I’m stuck at the Undead Parish trying to kill this stupid armoured Pig/Boar/whatever it is, been playing for a couple weeks now.

          • Big_Boss88

            I can give you some hint how to proceed if want xD. Oh maan gotta replay that game, I love how the world looks etc and bosses. Remind me of some dark fantasy book or movie, very same reason why I am so gonna enjoy Bloodborne in few months. It look epic and dark.

            Hopefully that and few games keep me occupied during TPP wait ;).

          • decoyF0XX

            I’ll take any tips lol. I actually know how to defeat this Boar, the thing is in Dark Souls, knowing how to kill an enemy is one thing, killing it however is a whole other thing. I’m sure you know haha.

            Definitely getting Bloodborne too. I haven’t seen any reason to move on to next-gen yet, but Bloodborne looks like a fine excuse.

      • Jonny McLaurine

        It was a good game with hard difficulty. Wasn’t for all because it was HARD. The senator fight at the end on normal was insane haha

        • Big_Boss88

          Oh maaan that Senator hahaha ;D, it drove me insane lol what a badass. Took me something like 1h to beat him when I had super low hp. Dont remember which difficulty I played. Boss fights are cool in Rising ;).

      • César H. Sandoval

        So, just tell the truth, you couldn’t beat the Bladewolf boss-fight, right? 😉

        • decoyF0XX

          Haha nah. Just hate to see Raiden the way he is. I didn’t even get to the Bladewolf. I stopped at the Island, the part after Raiden got his new suit.

          • César H. Sandoval

            Well, let’s be honest here, edgy Cyborg Raiden was Kojima’s idea for MGS4, Platimun just expanded the character, they didn’t make the guy from MGS2 into that.

          • decoyF0XX

            I’m not blaming Platinum. Some of Kojima’s decisions in MGS4 were actually not to my liking, still love the game though.

            If it were up to me, Raiden would be retired from all the government stuff, maybe working as a Private Investigator in a cyberpunk version of New York, this will create space for an action-adventure spin-off with fedora hats, damsels in distress, revolvers, whiskey and lots of cigarette smoke. Metal Gear Noir: Lightning for Hire.

          • César H. Sandoval

            My only problem with Cyborg Raiden was Kojima not showing how he got made into one in MGS4. It was so out of the blue, from MGS2 to that and all of the hidden backstory with Sunny, is one of the very lacking parts of guns of the Patriots me.

          • decoyF0XX

            Yeah that too, he didn’t explain all the stuff about Sunny. The story was supposed to be parallel to MGS1 so there had to be a cyborg ninja, however, I just feel it shouldn’t have been Raiden, he deserved a better fate. But maybe I just feel that way because MGS2 is my favourite.

          • César H. Sandoval

            I fell this story wold be told better on a MGS game than a MGR one, Raiden infiltrating Area 51 to rescue Sunny, with human limitations, full stealth gameplay and only becoming a Cyborg Ninja until the very last moment of the game.

          • Icosikaidigon

            They could totally put some minimal blade gameplay in that too, maybe just some daggers or something. Also at some point Raiden learns scouting techniques? I think MGS:Rising is lost forever, or at best for a very long time. Maybe they’ll make a digital graphic novel out of it.

          • There’s a huge difference between MGS4 Raiden and MGR Raiden.

          • César H. Sandoval

            One keeps crying most of the game then mans-up for the final battle, the other acts like a warrior for the whole game because of said past experiences.

            Is called character development. Just as MGS1 Solid Snake is very different from MGS4 solid Snake.

          • The difference is that both Solid Snakes have been written by the same person, and the character development feels logical and consistent. But for MGR, Raiden is changed into some kind of cursing maniac. It does fit with the game, since it’s a crazy, over the top Platinum game, but he is very different from the Raiden written by Kojima, which is okay since Rising is a spin-off anyway.

          • Raymondius

            God, this man always express just what I think, haha!

          • César H. Sandoval

            Different people writing a same character is to be expected when a franchise grows as large as MGS has, indeed. You can only blame capitalism for stuff like that, Kojima worot both Solid and Old Snake, yet he still is a very different character that kinda overwrites his own past as he sees fit by the time GOTP rolls out.

          • That may be so but this is where MGS is kind of an exception within gaming, especially for a franchise this big. No other franchise has this much influence from a single person, who puts his ideas and messages into his games in the form of symbolism, themes and characteristics. Kojima himself talked about this once, saying that he is an ‘auteur’, which is quite unique in the game industry.

          • César H. Sandoval

            Of course, I’m not triying to minimize the value of Hideo as a writer, but the franchise is too big for him to handle every little aspect, MGR wasn’t even the first (spinoff) written by someone else; it happened before with Snake’s Revenge, Ghost Babel, the Ac!d games, and Portable Ops… Also, let’s take into account that Kojima doesn’t even write all the MGS games by himself.

            Tomokazu Fukushima helped him writing 1, 2 and 3, Shuyo Murata came in also for 3 and 4, Also joined him on MGSV with Hidenari Inamura.

            Sometimes, even Kojima’s original ideas are scrapped by someone else in his MGS games, remember GOTP original ending, with Snake and Otacon executed as criminals, and how it was changed to the “happy” ending we got instead, because the other game’s taff over-ruled Hideo’s vision.

          • Sure, but Kojima makes a distinction between games he only produced and those he created: ‘a Hideo Kojima game’. He makes this distinction for a reason, since he writes, directs and designs these games he leaves a clear mark on them, in which his vision really shines through. The ‘Kojima touch’, you could call it.

          • César H. Sandoval

            But the only game he wrote on his own was Peace Walker, all the other MGS games had the touch or another(s) writer(s) into them as well, should we minimize them as people do with Rising and the other spinoffs?

          • No, because these games are written, directed and designed by Kojima, which make them ‘a Hideo Kojima game’. This is an important distinction, as pointed out by Kojima himself.

          • Raymondius

            I would call it inverse character development. I liked Rising, it was fun, and I think a new Rising is always a good new. But Raiden in Rising suffers a severe involution. He becomes a cold blooded assassin because of power he has without even regreting. That’s not what MGS teaches us.

          • Plus the fact that MGS4 made it pretty clear that Raiden was done fighting, and he had switched to human-looking body prosthetics. Yet for Rising, he is suddenly a battle machine again. It is possible for him to change his mind, of course. He also did this between MGS2 and 4. But it was a lot more convincing and well explained in those games.

          • Raymondius

            Yeah, absolutely, but I could consider that a narrative license. Coming back to fighting could make sense again this time, but they messed the character up. In MGS4, Raiden had finally grown ‘in spirit’ and at last he had found peace after the war against the Patriots/Ocelot. But then Rising tells you that Raiden actually ENJOYS killing and he just spit it to your face. He is told that he has been murdering normal people and he just smiles and goes crazy and does not even regret it once.

          • Indeed, there just wasn’t a satisfactory explanation given the ending of MGS4, where he really chose a different path in life. But again, of course it’s understandable from a gameplay perspective, and Rising seems to be all about the gameplay, so they just came up with an excuse to put Raiden back in his battle gear. 😛

          • Xilurm

            Hey there. I’ve been following your news for many years (since Gametrailers still had groups actually) but this is the first time I’ll post here since this discussion caught my interest.

            Thing is, Rising didn’t really pull me in. Mostly because of the story and Raiden’s character but also because of how overpowered he seemed. I mean, if you take Rising’s Raiden and put him against Vamp, it doesn’t look like Vamp would stand a chance, he would be annihilated in seconds.

            Anyway, what you said about Kojima thinking this mostly as a spin-off caught my attention. So, is it supposed to be non-canon? The same way PO is? Atleast that would put my mind at ease since I don’t particularly like the game.

            So I guess since it’s a spin-off and a “what-if” story, that would mean that if in the future Kojima decided to make a game himself that is set in the same time period, Rising wouldn’t really matter right?

            PS: I know it’s a wikia but the MGS wiki lists both PO and Rising as canon, but I guess it hasn’t been updated or something?

          • If you listen to this interview, at the start he says it’s different from the story he would have in mind, and he calls it ‘Platinum’s take’ and ‘kind of a parallel story’. So yeah, not canon in Kojima’s mind.

          • Xilurm

            I see, thanks!

          • César H. Sandoval

            MGR explained it as well, Cyborg Tech was on the rise, only another Cyborg could face them, he became a Security Contractor to both provide for his family and keeping the world more safe.

            A machine-man trained for killing since he was a kid doesn’t just forget about war, the same way Solid Snake forgot about his happy ending with dogs and Meryl on Alaska and came back to fighting for MGS2.

            Living a normal life was impossible for them by then, even if they found love and peace, Snakes would always go back to war.

          • They may have an explanation but the thing is that it just doesn’t feel like the same Raiden, in the same universe, which is logical because it is written by another person. It’s okay, the story was entertaining enough for a spin-off hack and slash game, and not everyone can write like Kojima. Not to mention is Kojima’s character and Kojima’s universe, so he understands them like no other. So it’s understandable that Rising feels different in tone. Because of this and because of the completely different gameplay people just see Rising as a different universe, not to mention Kojima himself, who sees it as a ‘what if’ story, as Platinum’s take on the Metal Gear universe. Which is exactly what is is, and which explains why Raiden is so different and over the top, and why many of the characters are comical archetypes (like the German ‘doktor’ and the macho, all American senator Armstrong).

          • This is way I enjoyed this game for what it was. A lot of people still see it as legitimate canon and it’s not. I played it expecting a insane anime or something, I never expected any situation would make Raiden go back. Especially after MGS4. Myself personally am looking forward to Rising 2 and if platinum games is making it I wouldn’t want then to try and fill in between MGS2 and 4. They aren’t capable of telling that story, even if Kojima wrote it I think the presentation would lack. If they made Rising 2 I would just want another silly over the top story to have an excuse to enjoy the awesome combat system the first game had.

          • César H. Sandoval

            Has Kojima said that this Raiden is -that- much different to what he intended for the character when he wrote him into MGS2 and 4? Because I think the fans complain a lot more than him about MGR’s plot and gameplay, he always praises Platinum take on the game, I have seen Hideo being a more lot aprensive of other games, like Portable OPs for example, than he is about Rising.

            Not to mention, all the MGS game are filled with comical archetypes… Characters like Mantis, Liquid, Vamp, Fatman, The Pain, The whole B&B unit, Drebin, Zadornov, Paz, etc. are nothing short of the same kind of “crazy” than MGR’s cast were

          • Regardless of what Kojima has said about it, it is pretty clear to those who played the other games and are familiar with the characters. Kojima is probably more critical of PO because he still sees that as part of the timeline, whereas Rising is just a spin-off so it doesn’t really matter.

            Well, if you think the cast of Rising is as good and memorable as those in the other MGS games that’s your opinion of course, but even the craziest MGS characters often have a lot of depth to them that gives them a distinct and unique personality and that makes them feel like actual people, as crazy as they can be. If you compare Liquid and Armstrong, the main villains of MGS1 and Rising, who of them comes across as a character with a fleshed out personality and who as just a comical, ‘bat-shit insane’ parody?

          • cardboardbox engineer

            Nyxus you should start writing reviews about characters themselves,

          • César H. Sandoval

            He always was a cold-blooded assasin, like every Snake in the MGS series is.

            He just stops denying it, the very same thing he keeps doing by confronting his past in both MGS2 and 4, always blaming his fate on others, quickly denying his past as the best shiled-soldier in Liberia.

            He fools himself by saying his sword is a tool of justice, then, like Solid Snake did, admits he’s just a killer, doing wetwork to liberate the world of even worse murderers than himself, he redirects his anger at those making more child-soldiers, he learns to live with his dark past and give it a target.

            “Killing is one of those thing that only get easier the more you do it”

            Is not that he doesn’t regret killing, he just accepts this as part of his nature, and resorts to murdering those who are doing bad on the world, like Solid Snake did. “You were the linghting in the storm” Jack the Ripper is thus freeing the world of menaces like PMCs and Armstrong, just like Solid Snake back in the day saved the world by murdering FoxHound, Liquid, The Patriot PMCs and Ocelot. With no regrets because that’s the only choice they have as mercenaries in the end.

          • uya333

            fukin Amen!!

      • Kol Leqejza

        plays the first lvl. amd calls the game halfbaked. u do not have to look for long to find the error.

        • decoyF0XX

          I don’t want to have to nitpick on the game just to prove my point. I know it’s a great game, I might still give it a second try, I know a couple people who consider it the best game of 2013.

    • PrinceHeir

      The game is designed for action fans first then MGS fans. I respect those who didn’t enjoyed it and it was not for them.

      To be honest i was in the same boat when it was changed last Dec 2011. I still the trailer when Raiden carried Metal Gear Ray up in the air and was like WTF?!

      Then i played the game and wow it has the best mechanics in the genre. Parrying felt really good and easy, but hard to master. Game has tons of replayability with costumes, VR missions, sure the story was kinda okay, but i enjoyed what it tried to achieved with its Rules of Nature.

      It’s one of the few times where i felt like i didn’t gave the game a chance at first glance. I’m glad i did gave it a chance and played it non-stop for a few months.

      I’m 49 hours and i still haven’t played the VR and DLC missions. I even enjoyed this game more so than Peace Walker and MGS4(MGS4 is still good, but there few things that kinda conflicted with my philosophy of what makes an MGS game an MGS).

      I do hope they make the Rising game above, but i read that the producers and directors were removed or changed from position due to the game not progressing smoothly.

      • Ken Shiro

        The best game in the genre for me would be Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2. The action in that is just unparalleled in my opinion and at times it felt like you were playing a well choreographed Hong Kong action movie (especially when you fight Hayabusa clones). Then obviously you got other games like God of War etc.

        I played and enjoyed MGR, but not sure if I would call it a ‘good game’, it’s an okey game I guess. Because the game was lacking atmosphere and ambiance compared to some other games in the genre and especially compared to MGS games. The first trailer for MGR had an awesome atmosphere though, so I was kind of disappointed when it was different after Platinum games took over.

        • PrinceHeir

          Ninja Gaiden games are really good, but there’s something missing about it compared to Rising. The good thing about Rising is how fluid the controls are as well as the moves being strong and varied.

          Only thing missing about Rising is more moves and more weapons basically. Try playing it in higher difficulty modes and you’ll enjoy it more.

          Rising is built around replayability. You won’t enjoy the game by finishing it one time only. I finished the game 6 or 7 times now and it never get’s old. Love doing S Rank missions and mastering the parry system.

          Though Ninja Gaiden bosses are one of the toughest i’ve come to across. Hard as hell and are aggressive as well as leaving you no room to defend yourself. Probably one of the few times i wanted to break my controller at times XD

          And lol God of War. No offense, but that series has no place in the likes of Ninja Gaiden, Rising, Bayonetta, Devil May Cry etc.

          It’s below C-tier at best, yes even DmC is better than the whole series combined. Game is nothing more than a cinematic game with poor combat. At least the bosses look cool.

          • Jonny McLaurine

            Idk I think there is more replayability in ninja gaiden than MGS r. There was a good bit of weapons. There not guns where you can get 4 diff types of the same type of gun,
            It’s been a while so I’m trying to remember weapons ? Samaria sword, the short ninja sword, staff I forgey rest

          • PrinceHeir

            I remember it has dual katana, claws, spear, long sword.

            Also multiple playable characters in NG3RE like Kasumi, Ayane, Momiji.

          • Ken Shiro

            I’ve played Rising quite a bit actually, did the missions as well. Played it on hard difficulty too. I always choose the hardest difficulty available so I can enjoy the game longer.

            Anyway, the story, the music, atmosphere, quality, basically the whole game just wasn’t up to par to what I expected it to be. And especially if I compare it to what I have seen from the MGS series. God of War’s action itself may not be as great as the like’s of Ninja Gaiden, but the game overall is one of the industry’s best. Ninja Gaiden overall isn’t too great, but the action that it delivers makes it totally worth it. Every game has it’s strength’s and weaknesses.

            MGR could have been way better when I look back at the original trailer (posted above), I feel like we have missed out when it come’s to what MGR could have been. Don’t get me wrong, I would welcome an MGR2, but not by Platinum Games (with all due respect to them). I would prefer MGR2 being handled by Koji pro.

            If I remember correctly, MGR was given to Platinum games because they couldn’t achieve 60fps and weren’t able to evolve the gameplay, among other reasons. The 60fps hurdle shouldn’t be a problem for PS4 and X1 this time around, and the game play from the first trailer already looked better than the eventual game-play of MGR.

            I’m not trying to disrespect Platinum Games in anyway. I know we have them to thank for the existence of MGR, but I would just prefer MGR2 to be handled by Koji pro and be true to the atmosphere and quality that we have grown to expect from Metal Gear games over the years.

        • Jonny McLaurine

          Hmm not sure if I would compare it to ninja gaiden. One of my all time favorites. Another game from NES side scrolling days. That was a hrs hard hard game. That broke down and catered to casual players and ended up making a better game I thought. Also back to MGS . R . It’s way diff imo , just like MGS there is a great story and many different weapons that you can practice with. I really liked the story. Showed a lot about Jack the Ripper. The boss fight at end is probably one of the best scripted boss fights, if you can complete it.

    • militia101

      But what if they use a modified Fox engine???
      Think of the possibilities.

    • Eric Otness

      Actually, it WAS a Kojima Productions game. The main story was written by Kojima Productions, and that was AFTER Platinum got involved (they made that very clear in a Podcast).

      • uya333

        what do you mena, the original rising from KP had another story. It was between MGS2 and MGS4. That was so interesting, maybe we would have a glance of Solid Snake aging precess, but then platinum gave us something that was nothing like MGS.

        • Eric Otness
          • César H. Sandoval

            the only character designs KP made for MGR were Raiden, Bladewolf and Sunny, If I remember correctly.

        • Jonny McLaurine

          It was never set between any MGS game. Always was the future. Sorry

          • He’s talking about Metal Gear Solid Rising, before the reboot. That one was set between 2 and 4.

          • Jonny McLaurine

            That seems to have escaped me? All I ever remember with raiden was MGR!

          • Originally KP was making a game called MGS Rising using Fox Engine. But it didn’t work and Kojima cancelled it. After that, the project was restarted by Platinum Games and turned into MG Rising Revengeance,

          • Jonny McLaurine

            Hmm. Well it musta been garbage if hideo cancelled it. I’m glad he let platinum games work on it but he didn’t just give it to them. I remember being worried about the production of it and was all over forums trying to get the latest info. I know he worked with them. Also there are many remarks made in the game about various members of the MGS snake series. I loved it. Well back to ground zeroes. Mastering the tranquil gun . I’m about 87% accuracy at 150 meters now. At a 100 meters or less I can hit a moving target every time. Boyoboy im a destroy in MGO!

          • uya333

            no man, see the trailer, looks way better than the actual rising that is more like playing bayonetta and the moves aren´t realistic in any way, like a mortal kombat game, plus MGS Rising did run on the FOX engine, MGR Reavengence runs in platinum engine.

        • César H. Sandoval

          Kojipro wrote two stories for rising, the one cancelled and the one used in Revengeance, Platinum didn’t write the plot for the game.

          • True, Etsu Tamari of Kojima Productions wrote the script. But Platinum did have a strong influence on the story, they were the ones who wanted it to take place after MGS4. Basically they were the reason the script was changed in the first place.

    • Schmojima

      Thought that, too. MGR was really not my cup of tea.
      I even deleted (!!) the demo half-way through, because I found it to be really stupid and not satisfying enough to keep playing… just my opinion, but honestly, I hated it and never touched it since, not even once….

      and yes, TPP would be great now. But, you know, I can wait. Autumn would be just as fine as march. 😀 (well, kinda)

      • César H. Sandoval

        Couldn’t even reach the Bladewolf, huh? 😉

    • Ken Shiro

      @Golgari, I feel the same way. I personally would welcome Rising 2 but not by Platinum Games. I would want the game to feel and play more like the original trailer for MGR rather than how MGR ended up to be.

      • César H. Sandoval

        The one Kojima himself cancelled because it was not good at all?
        Also, remember Hideo said only Platinum could make MGR2 as well.

    • Jonny McLaurine

      It was koji pro and platinum games. Also it was sposed to be a breath of fresh air. People call it “half baked”? The only thing I could see why people may have disliked the game is because of the difficulty. It was not aimed at casual gamers but difficulty whores like myself.
      I always hear people say yea I tried the first level and it’s half assed? I’m just assuming but in all my mind , all I can say is that had to be to difficult and that is why people disliked it. If you beat the game and like me , thought it was awesome and new view on MGS universe. When your fighting the senator for the first time, I gurantee you did that fight at the least twice!! I was on it for almost a year haha. If you haven’t beat it and only played first level , then you need to get this asap and beat it.
      Idk I have to beat every game I play because I’m OCD with it. No matter how much i dislike a game, I still beat it! Some still spent a lot of time making this art and to many just couldn’t hack it and say well it wasn’t like MGS. Just play it and you may be turned on to a new style of game!

      • César H. Sandoval

        To tell the truth it was half-baked, because it spend years rotting as a corpse at Kojipro and Platinum kinda rushed it so they could deliver a full game aside from some sacrifices.

        The game was still amazing tho… So now just imagine, what a full-fleged sequel could do with a complete development circle this time, and with the power of next-gen consoles and possibly the Fox Engine.

        • Jonny McLaurine

          Also from what I understand kojima may have been unhappy about finished product but it was never ever stated he called it trash. He wants to do another one with the same studio , so seems to me , the only thing he and platinum were upset was they didn’t get to polish it like TPP . They were on a tight timeframe it seems because if it was just done with out blatant reguard to hideos franchise , then I doubt kojima would work with them again or do a sequel to a complete trash game as you say.

          • César H. Sandoval

            “MGS Rising” the prototype, was the one I called “trash”, the concept that no one at Kojipro was capable of making a videogame, so Kojima himself cancelled it. MGR is a great game and Kojima has said a lot of times that he wants Platinum to make MGR2.

    • César H. Sandoval

      Quick reminder that Hideo Kojima himself said that this version of Rising was unplayable trash, that the Kojipro team couldn’t make it work as a videogame at all aside from a quick tech-demo, that he cancelled this behind closed doors and that he has nothing but praise for Platinum’s MGR for taking his personal request to complete it, saving this concept and turning it in a great videogame when his team couldn’t.

      Are you gonna disagree with Hideo Kojima himself, comrade?

      • Jonny McLaurine

        Put one link up where he calls it unplayable trash. He’s never said that because that’s a blatant lie. How is it unplayable? Seems to me a majority of the people who complain are complete trash at playing video games. I can name broken unplayable trash games. That is far from the truth about MGR.

        • César H. Sandoval

          The very first result Google gives you. The original didn’t work at all, Kojima himself said the only solution by then was he steping up and start it all over again, but he didn’t have the time, so Platinum had to save it, they were the only ones capable of doing so.

          Kojima’s words: “We actually worked on it pretty hard, for two years in-house. Then we
          ran into problems. Normally what would happen at that point would be I’d
          jump in, take over the project and start from scratch. But I was
          already busy with [Metal Gear Solid] Ground Zeroes so I was actually planning to cancel the game at that point.

          The only problem was, we had already announced Metal Gear Solid: Rising
          at E3, and there were a lot of users looking forward to the game. So I
          really tried to think of a way to keep the project alive. Platinum Games
          was really the only studio I could think of that could take over and do
          it properly.

          So in essence, if Platinum had said no to this offer, then Rising would not have existed. But in the end, Platinum did take over, they did a great job, and we have a great product as a result.”

          http://spong.com/feature/10110941/Interview-Hideo-Kojima-on-Metal-Gear-Rising

          • gamefags

            the original rising looked a million times better than the garbage that platinum made.

          • César H. Sandoval

            Heh, so you think you know better than Hideo Freaking Kojima when it comes to making a videogame? Hilarious!

            But it has pretty shinny graphics! Sure that means it’s better, huh?

    • Ninja_Se7eN

      Completely agree about Rising.

  • Shalashaska

    1. People should seriously understand that Rising 2 was confirmed when Hideo and Rising’s devs met a few months ago.
    2. It was just a number 2. Nothing .. I say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING else was shown about it. Therefore the fact that it is rising 2 isn’t even confirmed.
    3. It is NOT coming anytime soon.. I mean .. first he has gotta finish TPP and Then Silent hills AND then he can move to this.
    4. If in the case that he isnt directing it.. whats the point for the hype..when actually TPP is the game we should all be hoping for :/
    5. I dont mean to hate or anything .. everyone is titled to their opinion and i think that showing a number 2 cant mask the fact that TPP is FAR out.. and RISING 2 IS VERY FAR out.. AND no, I didnt hate Rising.. Infact I LOVED RISING and Raiden.. So much that I’ve played that game more times than MGS 3 (granted it is shorter .. but still.. that counts..) I absolutely loved the first part

    • venacava

      I thought platinum is the one who developing the game not kojima production themself (sry for my bad english)

    • Jonny McLaurine

      It’s rising, I just say that because why else would the 2 represent? Also the 2 is the exact same way the number 1 looked in rising 1 premier. Yea TPP be out soon , so obvious I think we want it more. If that’s even right. I think we have been hyped to want MGS TPP NOW heh.
      I’m always up for seeing games tht I’m gonna want in the FUtURE.
      I’m just like ya! I wanna play TPP but I’m a gamer and not just a MGS TPP fan. I eat, sleep,shit gaming. I play from morning to night during my off seasons and since I only gotta work 180 days a year , that, gives me a lot of time! It’s never to early to give the devs ideas that we want.
      Also I believe that it won some awards for action game. So the ideas the game is based on , I don’t think will really change. Meaning action-stealth.
      I liked it the way it was designed and would like to see them build more off that design.
      The whole point of fox engine is to be able to put games out faster .
      I’m willing to cut my nuts off if it’s not MGR ha

    • César H. Sandoval

      MGR2 could still happen sooner, because as with the 1st one, Kojima wouldn’t be directing it nor would Kojipro make it, it will be a Platinum game again.

  • Kol Leqejza

    metal gear rising was the best action game of 2012. so im actually looking forward to this.

  • Vegas

    MGR:R was a good game? Of course! So good that a sequel is not needed. The same can be said about The Last of Us for example. Please, don’t waist budget on franchises, Kojima. Do as you always do and surprise us.

    • Big_Boss88

      Just wait few years and we see TLoU sequel, not saying it is needed either but imo it will come out.

      • Jonny McLaurine

        They are doing a sequel right now and talks of a movie with hugh jackman(wolverine) and aria stark actress from GoT

        • Big_Boss88

          Oh ;D, sorry Jonny I thought they were only rumors. Dont remember the info very well, when I read it a while ago. 🙂
          Yea I love Aria Stark 😉

          • Jonny McLaurine

            The sequel has been confirmed but the movie I guess as far as I know , is still in talks and writing script!

          • Jonny McLaurine

            Yea Hugh as Joel and Aria as Ellie would be magical in cinema

      • Vegas

        I agree, but what i am saying is that Rising does not.

        • Big_Boss88

          Hmm yeah I understand :). I dont really know what I think of it, as I just want TPP and then Silent Hills 😀 ! And few other games xD…

          • Vegas

            Silent Hills is another problem for me. The game looks so awesome but… i don’t like to get scared in games or movies, i just don’t feel the “adrenaline” that people love 🙁

    • Jonny McLaurine

      I disagree with that. I would probably like any game from hideo, even Care Bears if he did it haha, but, it’s good to build and add and create whole timelines of history for a game. Also from a buisness stand point which If we want to keep seeing good games from Konami /koji pro , then they need to get profits up. Konami hasn’t acted like a bunch of other big names that capitalize on IPs and say They will buy it because of so and so. The game will be broken, hastily built, etc. He will do a new IP after he pleases some long time fans of his that wanna see the classics.

      • Vegas

        True indeed, but do you think the public want another Raiden game?

    • César H. Sandoval

      Waste budget? Man are you crazy or do you actually believe they are gonna take money away from Phantom Pain to make MGR2?

      That’s not how videogames are made, also, if you hate sequels so much, I’m sure you also hate MGS2 to V. Becase MGS1 was also a perfect game on the level of Last of Us, forget that, it was even superior.

      • Vegas

        I said waste budget, didn’t say it was from TPP. They could make another kind of MGS, a new kind, or maybe a separated series. I’m just saying that Rising doesn’t have anything exciting to show us. We are fine with one Raiden, you can see in the coments.

        • César H. Sandoval

          So, “sequels” are only good when they are for the games that you personally like. Otheerwise they are a waste of money.

          Got it.

          • Vegas

            XD no buddy, i noticed that many people didn’t want or didn’t bother of a sequel of this game (you can see here in the comments). But most important: it is not a story to be continued. There is nothing more to tell and the mechanics won’t be better enough to justify a new game (I assume). I can be wrong, but i just don’t see a scenario where a new Rising game would be better than… something new.

          • Vegas

            Btw sorry if i was arrogant in my original comment, i just meant to say my personal opinion.

          • Big_Boss88

            Np this is one of the rare sites, where people can talk and express own opinions without usually rageing at each other :). We all got own opinions of games etc.

  • Rikimaru

    I liked MGR:R, it was different (of course it wasn’t from KJP) but still I loved the soundtrack, characters and so forth. Looking foward to it!

  • Mini gear

    http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/115532
    still listed for q1 -____- I know it aint happening but what if it somehow released in march

    • Alberto Sánchez

      No way.

      • Venom_Sina

        It’s not going to happen.Q2 might be the release window.I think releasing in Q1 is impossible.

        • Mini gear

          yeah

    • Big_Boss88

      Mini, my friend don’t beat yourself up ;). It not gonna happen and we gotta accept that phantom painful truth. 🙁 *sniff* T_T

      • Mini gear

        “kojima sent us to the waiting room, but were waiting even longer” ahhhhhh… maybe the phantom pain isn’t a game for us but for kojima to watch us go crazy waiting. and now we wait till march for gdc 🙂

  • Otacon007
    • Ravenous

      Nope, said it before and I’ll say it again: never trust a releasedate you can only find on retail-sites and forums, they don’t have any more info than we do untill the game has gone ‘gold’ (meaning that production of the disks the game is delivered on) and the developer/publisher has given them this info…and that, AFAIK, is usually the same time they announce the date in question to the media and everyone else 😉

      Don’t believe any date from any store or site untill the date can be found on forums, official websites, youtube-videos and news articles on sites like gameinformer, IGN etc. etc. 🙂

    • Invader_skoodge

      You know why these retailers do things like that right? Pre-Orders. Nothing else. They want to rake in as many preorders as they can so they throw out random placeholder dates so people would throw money their way. That way when they give the real release date, they could just say the developer moved the date so deal with it. We have your money.

      • decoyF0XX

        South Park is the best haha.

      • Mini gear

        mgs is the only game ive preordered a year ahead

        • Big_Boss88

          I will pre-order it instantly when get release date and possible limited editions :).

          • Mini gear

            I really hope kojima gives limited edition outside japan this time

          • MichaelPayneV

            No, just don’t, have some patiance and wait for the Game to come out, then buy it.

            Show Konami that what they did for GZ was good, not letting you pre-order it.

      • Shalashaska

        hahahaha laughing so hard at this..after a horrible day.. this has made my day man

  • Icosikaidigon

    My biggest hope for MGR2 is that they do more than just make it a longer and/or more crazy game. I want it to be the MGS2 of MGR; it should cause some controversy.

    • Ravenous

      Sure some controversy would be good, but I really hope that they’ll try to get closer to the gameplay of the MGS-series, not try to make it even more over-the-top than MGR.

      The only way I think they’ll get more of my money is if they make stealth a viable option to run’n…slash?, and my highest hope for another MGR is that they fill in the gap between MGS2 and 4

  • ObsessedGeorge

    Sorry for the off topic but l wanted the community to see this.

    Their theories sound so stupid every time. Grasping at straws in every single theory.

    • Big_Boss88

      I dont know what to think of this. Maybe it was just some mistake they added Kaz that line in GZ, or ppl misunderstand the meaning. Anyway, seriously BB is big Boss and that GX thing uhh. Game is about showing his evolution to MG1 BB and Kojima himself said that V will be easier to understand, even for new players.

      MGS is the ONLY game that make people think of all kinds of theories when waiting for game. I LOVE IT 😉 even though they sound crazy as hell !

      Btw off-topic is cool, no need to apologize :).

      • Liquid25

        I find the theories about Gray Fox hilarious, but honestly i found this particular line weird the first moment i heard it when i was playing the game. I have no clue why it’s in there. Miller said in Peace Walker that he knew everything about Paz and then he says: I can’t believe we bought that cover story. It may be a mistake like you said. But there was no reason to say it. It’s like we never saw the final scene of Peace Walker. It doesn’t make sense at all…

        • Big_Boss88

          Yea it does not make sense, maybe I’m just wrong and don’t want to believe this theory :D. But we see in TPP what the hell is going on, the game will be huge and is MGS in the end, so better expect some sort of mind f*cks.

          • Liquid25

            Of course there will be a plot twist in the end.It’s MGS after all. Something with Ocelot i assume. Like every other game. But the protagonist? That’s too much in my opinion.

    • Mr.Pony

      Next theory: All sheep in TPP are Cypher agents and every soldier is a body snatcher

      • Mini gear

        after that: liquid is solid snake and solid snake is big boss, and greyfox is DD

        • Mr.Pony

          and after that: Ocelot is Rainden’s father and the Big Shell is a psych ward run by Ocelot because Raiden thinks he is a secret agent and later a ninja.

          • Big_Boss88

            After that, we find MGSV ultra plot twist. TPP story happen after MGS4.

          • Mr.Pony

            what if it was all one of Otacon’s anime and Otacon is kojima?! O.o

          • Big_Boss88

            I think we just figured out the entire MGS story :D, nice.

          • Mini gear

            after that old snake didn’t die but became grey fox

    • Shalashaska Has Landed

      I was convinced that PythonSelkanHD would lose 85% of their subscribers the moment they said “BIG BOSS? RUBBING GREY ASHES IN FACE? GREY=GRAY. GRAY FOX FORESHADOW?” in one of their videos,…. But as always, the fanbase surprises me, and he actually acquired even more subscribers in awe, hype & suspense, over that specific analysis with validity.

    • No Place For Hayter

      Aside from his thoeries being (personal opinion incoming) RETARDED mgs thoughts at its peak, I don’t like the guy everything I have seen from him makes him look very defensive and rude, I don’t like him or his theories.

      • ObsessedGeorge

        The most annoying thing l hate about their videos is that they put some scenes in a loop a couple of times because they think that we are retards and do not get it the first time we see it. Like that scene with Kaz talking about Paz. Must have put it about 4 or 5 times.

        • Ravenous

          And the most annoying thing I can see about their videos is how incredibly much whining they generate in the comments on this particular site XD

          They are clearly Gray Fox fans, and they might be grasping at straws with their theories, but everyone complaining about them seem to be forgetting their disclaimer: that they are simply theories!

          Personally I find their videos interesting, and I’m such a big fan of Gray Fox that I hope that some of their theories turn out to be true, or atleast that Fox will play an important part in TPP’s story. And he should because he does end up as Big Boss’s second-in-command and most trusted Lt. in Foxhound, and after they leave Foxhound behind.

          Unless Kojima is going to leave a gaping hole in the timeline between TPP and MG1 ofcourse.

    • Mini gear

      I want tpp so I can watch these theories burn

      • Big_Boss88

        😀 me too

        • Mini gear

          hey boss, when do you think tpp will come out now? im lost and need something to think im waiting for :p

          • Big_Boss88

            Coming 1984 my friend.

            1+9=10
            10-8=2
            2+4=6

            Coming early June ;)…

          • Mini gear

            id love that

    • Javier Sosa

      There is still people in here talking about “another snake”. What a stupid theory.

    • Venom_Sina

      I recommend you to watch this!!!This is funnier than yours!!!

      It’s like:1+2=3.So Half Life 3 confirmed!!!lol

      • ObsessedGeorge

        I knew where this was going right from the start of the video. One thing though that has me worried and confused. A comment below the video.

        “Kojima confirmed that the REAL Big Boss only goes into 1 coma in his
        whole life time. He went into a coma during the times of MGS1 and woke
        up at the MGS4 so we’ve all seen him have his coma. This protagonist we
        see goes into a coma at the end of GZ and wakes up at the start of
        TPP…. CONFIRMING THAT THIS IS NOT BIG BOSS!”

        Does this mean that the doctor is lying to Big Boss? I don’t even want to think that we aren’t playing as Big Boss.

        • Venom_Sina

          Yeah.Kojima-san said in an interview with “GameInformer” that Big Boss went into coma only 1 time and you must finish The Phantom Pain to know the whole story.
          If my memory serves me well, the only time Big Boss went to coma was in 1972,and Zero extracted DNA from him and started “Les Enfants Terribles” project.If this is the first and last coma,what about the coma in TPP?Maybe we’ll be playing a different character.Maybe it’s Kojima playing with our minds!!!I don’t know exactly.

          By the way,that coma you mentioned,wasn’t really coma!!Because in the final moments of MGS4,Big Boss doesn’t say anything about coma or something.

        • Big_Boss88

          Yes that 1 coma thing Kojima said is few of the things that bothers me. Before I thought there was 3 coma, LET, MGSV and the one after MG2.

          But then after thinking about it more, it could be just that they somehow managed to take Big Boss’ DNA while being awake in early 70’s, so no coma happened. I don’t remember was it explained in more detail somewhere. Anyway Zero didn’t want to lose him, but it’s been a while since I replayed all the games so my memory can be a bit fuzzy at some details :D.

          So is MGSV coma real, 9 year is long time in coma. But anything is possible in game and maybe it has happened in real life too to some people. There was that leak late last year that gave some interesting ideas for the 9 years, but while it had some errors imo so didn’t believe it :P. Also not just the doctor, Ishmael and Ocelot all say 9 years too.

          Then what about the last long cryogenic coma state, where his body was put into after SS burns BB in MG2. Does it count as a coma then if he was frozen or somethin’?

          We see in TPP what happens, as Venom_Sina said maybe we gotta finish the game to see the heck is actually going on. I also hope we get to hear more stuff about LET because don’t remember it much being mentioned in the games by Big Boss.

          I really hope we are playing as BB :)…because wanna see his emotional downfall. But who knows how long game TPP is so strange things might happen… Some of these theories has got me worried :(…and doubting my own thoughts on MGSV. Kojima said he might change few things etc of story (if I remember right). Crap sorry for long post lol.

          • Venom_Sina

            There is another theory that says all of the events in the beginning of TPP is a simulation.It makes perfect sense when you consider things like:the giant whale and BB,Ishmael,Medic has the same voice etc… and here’s the proof

            Do you remember this?

            when screen flashes,this appears:
            The part that says:”VR Program:phantom_pain.mme” just messing with my mind badly!!!

            There are soooo many theories out there that our minds are going to blow by them!!!

          • Big_Boss88

            Woah I think I never seen this one before o_O… What the hell D: …from Moby Dick Studios- days? Well so it say in there, “Contractor:MDS”

            Honestly I don’t know what to think anymore XD !!! My brain is about to freeze with all these theories clashing inside my brain lol. I keep telling myself ye it’s BB we play as and things will get good explanation etc. But damn I don’t know haha, this one weird+creepy video. ;D
            If this simulation happen to be true, I will apologize to everyone who claimed such theory and who I didn’t believe.

            This is MGS in the end so need to prepare for any kind of insane stuff.

          • Venom_Sina

            That’s not all!!!If you translate the morse code from the trailer,it spells out:

            GENERATING IMAGE HOLD SCENARIO LOADING HOLD ACTIVATE PHANTOM PAIN DOT MEME HOLD ERROR ERROR ERROR ERROR

            Looks like activating “phantom_pain.mme” ends with error.So it might explain the chaos in the hospital scene.

            Also,the “Purpose” part of the picture above is interesting.It fits to the personality of a guy like Gray Fox,not Big Boss!!!That’s why guys like PythonSelkanHD believe that this man we see in TPP is Gray Fox.
            Oh,man!!! I’m gonna freeze myself til TPP releases!!!

          • Big_Boss88

            Maaan that is so interesting info. I always denied that Gray Fox theory, but I never had seen this clip. What if it would be some simulation. What if this video has something to do with TPP story, even if being 2 year old. Still it look so cryptic like what the hell lol. Thanks Sina this got me thinking about stuff :)…

          • Venom_Sina

            You’re Welcome Boss!!! I’m happy when I help comrades in MSF/Diamond Dogs/Outer Heaven!!!

          • MichaelPayneV

            At The End is mentioned the Brain Damage and the Prosthetic Arm, way before E3 2013.

          • Venom_Sina

            I’m sorry.I didn’t get your point.Can you explain a little?

          • MichaelPayneV

            The point is that THIS Video was real after all.

          • Venom_Sina

            Ah.Thanks for clearing that up for me.Yeah I think it’s real too.It’s one of Kojima’s “playing-with-minds” episodes!!!
            But if turns out this video is fake,I’m gonna stand up a applaud the guy that created this fantastic fake!!!

          • Zero-ELEC

            That video was confirmed fake a long time ago.

          • MichaelPayneV

            It can’t be fake, the Brain Damage and the Prothetic arm is mention, and this Video was posted way before even the VGX Reveal

            Even if is Fake, this guy is a Konami employe…or was.

          • Big_Boss88

            I love you guys, thx for all this interesting info ;)! Now I can sleep well and dream of these theories ;D.

          • MichaelPayneV

            “VR: Program: “PHANTOM_PAIN.MME”

            1 thing this could mean is that MGSV was supposed to be revealed at VR Conference trough a P.T. hidden as a VR: Escape from a Mind Fukk Hospital Expreience, but due to Kojima being forced to make Ground Zeroes and actrual Game, the idea was probably dropped.

            “Purpose

            Treatment of Neurological Damage sustained in Combat Situations”

            The V Bomb.

            “Treatment of Combat ralated Psychological stress”

            The Phantom Cigar

            “Enhancement of Combat Ability following Impairment”

            This is interesting, looks like either The Horn or The Arm are affecting Big Boss mind…you know, like Liquid Arm.

            “Implement of….” something, is pretty much the Prothetic Arm.

          • Venom_Sina

            Yeah.That’s a nice theory too.Makes sense also.
            There are too many theories.I can’t handle them!!!

          • Mini gear

            LET, the most important mgs event ever… barley ever explained :p

          • Big_Boss88

            Yep it would be nice to hear Big Boss talk about it more :).
            I believe it will happen when Big Boss meets Eli in TPP and realizes who he is.

        • NakedSnake85

          i think that big boss is ishmael and the medic is venom snake !!!the fact that he takes a second to say his name.. almost like hes thinking of a fake name to say.. and hiding his face with bandages.. . Ishmael/Big Boss is in on the scam.. knowing that Cipher is after him and using the Fake BB as a decoy.. so he can escape.. which is why you dont see Ishmael after the hospital scene. He was trying to help his decoy (the person you play as) to escape so he too can escape undetected. “your alive, but the world wants you dead”.. hes talking about himself. And the Medic is probably who you play as.. So maybe the bandages are from a facial transplant.. to make the medic look like BB.This also explains why the Medic has a similar voice to BB. And it explains why BB has no horn in the hospital scene. Plus look at the camera perspective.. its FIRST PERSON in the hospital when Kaz says “what about him”.. and still FIRST PERSON when BB wakes up from the coma.. the only 2 instances of first person view in any of the trailers…i been watching over you for 9 years” …thats Big Boss watching over his Decoy knowing one day Cipher will find him and he will need a full proof escape plan. The decoy BigBoss has to believe he is the real BB for it to work.. plus we need to believe hes the real BB for kojimas trick to work.

          • Big_Boss88

            Interesting theory, maybe it will be true ;)…

            The strange thing about the hospital demo beginning, is that when Big Boss ask “what happened to the woman?”.

            Ishmael answer, if I remember right as I havent seen it in a while. Using phone so no time to confirm:

            “I…we gave her a light/life, she took the short way down”.

            Notice how Ishmael change the first word, I think its just a bit strange. But maybe “we” is about Medic and BB in chopper scene. Although I hope its only BB. 😀

            Or then it was “I…you can call me Ishmael”. Which is also weird, that hesitation.

        • Zero-ELEC

          Actually, the line in MGS1 referring to a coma was a mistranslation.
          http://thesnakesoup.org/myth-articles/myth-big-boss-was-in-a-coma-when-he-was-cloned/

  • Stormy Rain

    http://puu.sh/fgQ35/55b6eba519.jpg
    Looks like Raiden’s eye. I can tell it’s Raiden because I can see (and it’s very hard so) a helmet on the left and he looks like he’s in a fighting stance.

    • Theo Cevallos

      GRAY FOX! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • No Place For Hayter

    Well for those who played and loved the first one they are in for a couple of great games, lol.

  • javier ramos

    HOLY SHIT!!! 😀

  • From The Distant Future

    Being patient at the moment. Almost exploded with extravagant enthusiasm. Some of the fans here, I don’t know, I suspect they would have understood the concept of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance seeing as they are Metal Gear fans. It seems they do not however. Compering MGR:R to the “cancel-for-a-reason” MGS:R (Metal Gear Solid: Rising) is impossible. The game never came out. So it’s foolish to compare them. Besides, Kojima Productions never made a H&S before. They have no experience in that department. Kojima Productions were finding it difficult to design the game around the cutting concept. The game would have fell flat on its face. Anyone who believes otherwise is just ignorant of the past situation. It’s also very stupid to say things like, “Who cares! TPP is coming out! So who cares about this!” Because TPP is coming out we shouldn’t care about Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, The Division, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, Final Fantasy XV, Batman: Akrham Knight, and other great games? That’s a taciturn statement.

    Anyway, Hideo Kojima mentioned in January 2012 that depending on the game’s popularity, the staff would make a franchise based on it. And the game is popular! However, Kojima would only approve of a sequel if Platinum Games were to develop it, stating that “no one else could [do] it”. I believe only they (Platinum Games) can do it. Remember, in August 2013, Konami posted a survey for Metal Gear Rising in their official site asking fans if they want a sequel and if so what they would like to see in it. Many said, “YES!” Man! Then, this “2”! I’m excited and anticipating an official announcement!

    • No Place For Hayter

      Yes this.

      Though I think the reason you are seeing is “who cares” comments is primarily because it is a MG game and people are so tied to the new MGS game that they don’t want more games added to the roster until the get the one they have been waiting forever for. I however simply think, the more the merrier 🙂

  • So_Sorrow

    Hello all! Die hard MG-fan since 1988, long time reader, no commenting though. But now I have to!

    I believe MGR:s biggest problem is that it does not explain very much of the mechanics involved. I enjoyed it a lot at first but it wasn’t until I bought the (beautiful) strategy guide that I really appreciated the tremendous amount of effort that has gone into this title. If you don’t like it you don’t like it but if you are on the fence, read the strategy guide or some FAQ and maybe you’ll change your mind.

    I stopped playing after 50+ hours, getting all s-ranks on Reveangence mode was one of the most rewarding gaming related experiences I’ve had during my 25+ years of gaming.

    Regarding the story I think it was a very good move to skip the “between 2 and 4”-setting to give the teams a bit more creative freedom. Besides, all of you who I played it for 7 minutes and decided it was “half-baked” must really like that decision since you don’t miss out on anything story related?

    As I’ve understood it, KojiPro were so ambitious that they wanted to make it possible to cut ANYTHING in the game. In the end it was apparently very hard to balance this kind of gameplay. (Oh no, the exit was on top of that house I just cut into a thousand pieces!) 🙂

    Lastly I must applaud Mr.Korekado and others at KP who want to expand the franchise. I have not encountered another series with so many and interesting characters that I want to know more about. So after 100 games as a snake I would want to explore different parts of this extraordinary universe!

    • Venom_Sina

      Welcome man.Good to have you on board.
      Oh man,you’re a true patriot…I mean die-hard fan!!!

    • Big_Boss88

      Hey friend and welcome to MGI :D! Nice post :). I used to be long time reader too until I just had to start commenting haha, MGI rocks.

      Rare to see MG fans since late 80’s I think, I got addicted to it by playing MGS1 in 1998 :).

      • So_Sorrow

        Hey guys, thanks!
        Yeah, already as a kid playing MG on the NES anyone could tell that it was something different from the “regular” games and I was intrigued. So since 1988 I’ve wanted to know more about “the only member of Fox hound to receive the codename fox” and so on.
        Then, as you say BB, the addiction hit in ’98. And here we are. 🙂

    • No Place For Hayter

      Welcome 🙂

      First comment and you already fit in perfectly (not surprised considering you are a long time MG fan and all) always glad to have more people 🙂 especially a die hard MG fan.

      Yeah KojiPro were a bit to excited about the idea to cut apart ANYTHING, lol, they should have gotten a clear minded director (I don’ know if they had one for MGSR or not) because the director is the one that has to fix drastic overall problems such as these by re-deciding ideas about the game, I think platinum made the right choice with it (I would have loved to slice anything but that wouldn’t work lol) with what platinum did is you still enjoy that awesome slicing but instead of it being the only attack mechanic it was a part of it, limiting it enough so it was useable and a great part of the game while not braking the game by allowing anything to be sliced. I also believe that Platinum had a much clearer idea of what to do with the game considering KojiPro is used to making stealth games with a heavy narrative with Kojima that MGSR might have to much of a change for them to handle suddenly on their own.

      • So_Sorrow

        Thank you NPFH, good to meet you. Been on here for a few years so yeah, I know what ya’ll wanna hear. 😉
        When on the subject, shout out to creator, mods and community in general for creating this haven for metal gear enthusiasts. Filled with good updates and a nice atmosphere.

        Regarding Rising, they set out to make a game where you would play and feel like Raiden as portrayed in MGS4. Mission accomplished as far as I’m concerned.
        On the surface it might come across as a pretty simple hack ‘n slash. When you start playing on very hard and revengeance and have to pick the game apart (so to speak) to reach those s-rank points you start to realize the staggering amount of thought and balancing that have gone into this title. On these higher difficulties, every (ranked) fight is a little puzzle you must solve using/combining armor, wigs, swords, skill (and maybe a hundred retries) to acquire the necessary bp, time, zandatsu and kills (or should you go for a No kills-bonus? 😉
        It all feels pretty KojiPro to me. Platinum just had to help them re-focus and get it running.

        Anyway, this game has grown on me like few has before it. Just had to speak my mind, maybe someone will re-evaluate it and appreciate it after reading my little mgr love letter. 🙂

        PS. And how can you dislike a game where you in the matter of seconds have obliterated a Gekko and 5-6 cyborg ninja guys, leaving the last one hanging frozen in the air cut in half in a cloud of misty cyborg blood? I mean… c’mon.

  • Sn4ke_911

    Yeah… okay… So some guy from the media (one who has been involved in
    Kojima head games before) asked a member of Kojima Productions to
    officially confirm an obvious easter egg tease as an official
    announcement, and he said no? Shocking.

    Remember, Kojima Productions straight up lied and said they had nothing to do with The Phantom Pain.

    Do not believe their bullshit.

  • Rikimaru

    So basically the same typography with a “2” written is not a tease? Its kinda hard for me not to associate it with MGR:R..

  • Sn4ke_911

    !!!

    • Shalashaska Has Landed

      Hahahaha. Wish someone would make that into an animated lighting gif.

      Good grief though. First the rumor surfaces and gets massive publication by top-tier sites, then the rumor gets debunked, now a lot of fans are disappointed AS WELL as pointing out Geoff’s previous scheming in the past with Konami (which is legit true lol). Why does everything always have to be grey?

    • Big_Boss88

      I love it ;D.

  • Datguy8923

    This is the same Geoff Knightly that said he spoke to Joakim Mogren and said The Phantom Pain is not an MGS game.

    I’ll wait for Konami to publicly say it’s not happening directly.

    • Well, here is what Imaizumi of KP says: https://twitter.com/Ken1555/status/561922066476044288

      • Datguy8923

        Either way MGR 2 is going to happen eventually. Platinum games have been awfully silent as of late. Either they are on vacation or working on something and don’t want to announce it yet.

  • Joseph

    What if Ken-ichiro Imaizumi doesn’t know of a MGR2 since he’s a producer at Kojima Productions, not Platinum. What if Kojima spoke with Platinum in private for talks of a sequel and pre-production is starting there instead of KojiPro?

    Or he could be just be lying to Keighley because, of course, Kojima has a tendency to trick us time after time

  • Liquid25

    For now, let’s concentrate on MGS V. Right now, Rising is not a priority. I would want a sequel, but i prefer Gray Fox killing Para-Medic or Raiden between MGS2 and MGS4. And good story. The first one was not even decent story-wise. I have no problem that it’s an action game. All i want is better story and longer than 5-6 hours.10 hours would be ideal i think 🙂

    • Shalashaska Has Landed

      I also prefer an “interquel” with Raiden in between 2 & 4, but at the same time I’m curious to see where the story goes after the events of World Marshal. As much as I thoroughly enjoyed Revengeance, it really did feel half-baked plotwise. Especially after the ending of Chapter 3 (I think), I was sitting there like.. “Wtf? I know there was totally suppose to be more to this abrupt cutscene!” lol.

      • Liquid25

        Yeah, the plot didn’t have an MGS feeling at all. Portable Ops wasn’t ”exactly” canon like Kojima-san said, but i really liked the plot and if i hadn’t heard about not being canon i would have no clue that there is a problem with its canonicity.That’s what i want with Rising.

  • Big_Boss88

    Wait so we should believe Geoff if he say no Rising 2 coming? Remember the guy was part of MGSV announcement and had planned the confusing reveal long time with Kojima and helped him out, so who knows.

    What else could it be, I mean even the color of that number fits.

    • Shalashaska Has Landed

      Well, it’s not just him saying this. The guy from KP, is also responding in the same manner.

    • Liquid25

      I don’t think there is a reason to lie.It’s not such a major game to begin with.It’s nothing compared to MGS V. Here’s the tweet from Ken too like Shalashaska said https://twitter.com/Ken1555/status/561922066476044288

      • Big_Boss88

        Oh okey thx to you both ;D, sorry I didn’t notice that. But still…they are the masters of deceiving O_O…

        Or maybe it is nothing major after all.

        • Liquid25

          Rising doesn’t concern Kojima-san so much from what i’ve understood. He gave the game to Platinum Games and didn’t work for it. So i don’t think he would make such fuss about it. But you never know… 😉

  • Javier Sosa

    I don’t care about rising 2 but I’m tired of all the “mistery” when they have to talk of a game. “We are not doing mgsv, i swear it for my mom”, “No, this game is not coming to pc”, “No, gtav is not coming to ps4”.
    And then we all know what happens.
    I’m not a fan of gta, but it’s just an example of all the bullshit around the announcements. And when a game is released late on pc, there is some people who bought a console just because they first said that the game won’t be released on pc. And then they have to sell it, I don’t know. Maybe they could be a little more serious to avoid problems to their clients.

  • Shalashaska

    It pissed me off so bad to see people so hyped up about just a number 2 that they forgot how kojima trolled that day..tch tch.. Guess I was right.. Rising 2 still isnt confirmed at all.. But none the less.. they’ll make one.. they know there is money in it, they wont lose that opportunity .. nobody would 😛

    • Mini gear

      I just hope the finale boss is someone whos shown the whole story, it was still fun though.

  • MichaelPayneV

    After Jeff Keighley confirmed that Rising 2 wasn’t teased, this is what Joakim N. Mogren had to say on his Twitter!
    https://twitter.com/JNMogren/status/561977891756335104

    • MichaelPayneV

      Seriously, how coul you believe Jeff, the guy who “Interviewed” a Hideo Kojima pawn?

      Also, don’t forget about February 24th, something will indeed happen.

      https://twitter.com/JNMogren/status/546784394757677056

      • Solid

        Nice! Arrrrrrrgh can’t wait!!!

      • Big_Boss88

        Yea cant believe Geoff (sryGeoff) ;), lets hope something good will happen on 24th.

    • Venom_Sina

      Thanks for the info.But isn’t this account a fake?

      • MichaelPayneV

        I don’t think so, i have a feeling that this guy is Hideo.

    • Big_Boss88

      Hahhahhah this is getting funny ;D, who is telling the truth here.

      I don’t know is this Joakim’s account fake or not, was it confirmed somewhere to be fake? Or is he still trying to confuse us for Kojima or is it Kojima’s alternate trolling account which he use sometime.

      I mean isn’t this originally the swedish guy who Kojima paid to present TPP in the first place using Moby Dick Studios, and being also interviewed by Geoff. So maybe he still “work” for Kojima to confuse us :P.

      • MichaelPayneV

        From what i have seen Joakim twitter was never wrong, he even teased the PC Version of Ground Zeroes months before Gamescom, so is possible that Joakim N. Mogren is still Hideo Kojima’s Alter ego.

        • Big_Boss88

          Yea you’re right and maybe it could be his alter ego like super heroes have ;).

          Joakim N. Mogren
          Joakim Not My ogre name. As it is Kojima, his hidden personality.

          • MichaelPayneV

            Exactly, Joakim could be his Cover, he is working for both Konami/Kojima and us, but also for his own agenda as well, just like Ocelot Hideo is a Triple Agent.

          • Venom_Sina

            Yeah.when we have Hideo Kojima,messing with people’s minds is a possibility!!!Just like you said,he may be a triple agent!!!Maybe Ken-Ichiro Imaizumi joined Kojima’s army too!!!
            Thanks for all the info,man.

      • Theo Cevallos

        ”Kojima’s alternative trolling account” fantastic

  • MichaelPayneV

    Guys, i finally decided to look on Web for February 24th Gaming Events, and looks like something called “SouthWest VR Conference will happen.

    Now when Joakim said this was he refering to TPP or Silent Hills?

  • Typical

    I’m a PC pussy who only agrees with what is popular and I only say what is socially acceptable. Since most people on here thin that MGR was good then I agree, screw all “harters” who say otherwise, unless your position becomes really popular then I’ll agree with you.

  • Javier Sosa

    About the memento reference of the Joakim twitter account. That reference was made some days ago in this website. It’s obvious he is just an user of this website.
    And about the 24th feb, that date was news because some stores used it of placeholder. So… don’t believe his lies. He is not kojima or someone of his team.

  • PrinceHeir

    lol do remember there was a rumor i read back then in Andriasang(RIP) on how Platinum Games were taking over Rising, but they deny it.

    Of course they did handled it 😛

    So while we wait for confirmation. It’s pretty much a given there’s gonna be Rising 2 and by Platinum Games(Kojima has said many times he’s willing to give Platinum Games the go anytime).

    They probably would want to get The Phantom Pain out since it may or may overshadow Rising or vice versa.

  • Mini gear

    im desperate, hoping for a window on financial report or destination playstation, and RD at gdc and a release at early June or v/v/201v

  • Joakim Mogren

    Geoff : “No MGR 2” and then he spoke to them and they said : “It is not true” so, there is an MGR 2. Mark your calendars, it is what you were thinking like others.