Quinton Flynn (Raiden): The Kojima – Konami split is unfortunate, but the Metal Gear series should continue regardless

In an interview by Fragged Nation (Daley), YongYea and Korrupt Ronin, Raiden voice actor Quinton Flynn talked about the Metal Gear franchise, Raiden and his hopes for the future of the series.

Quinton started his career with commercial and animation voice overs, and began voicing video games later. Aside from Metal Gear, his voice can be heard in games like Mass Effect 2 and No More Heroes.

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He was asked what Metal Gear games he has played. “I’m not a gamer.” Quinton said. He lacks the skills. He did try to play MGS2 but didn’t succeed. He isn’t as familiar with the series as some of the other voice actors. “I know from what I’ve done and from what I’ve experienced, and yeah, certain moments do pop out for me.” But according to Quinton it’s a fact that the fans who play it and do research do know more about it than he does.

How did Quinton envision Raiden in the beginning?
“Well, I just had no idea to be quite honest. I really didn’t.” He got to see a picture and description of the character. Kris Zimmerman was the casting director, and they had worked together before, so together they looked for the right voice, Quinton auditioned and he got the role.

What are some notes Quinton has to keep in mind while playing Raiden?
The difference between ‘regular Raiden’ and ‘Jack the Ripper’, who sounds more grim and menacing. “It does take the guidance of Kris in directing me when we’ve done the series for me to get back into either space. Because oftentimes we do scenes out of order.” So during recording Kris would tell him to give her ‘clean / young Raiden’ or ‘more / less Jack’.

Daley asked: was it ever awkward in MGS2 to take over the lead from David Hayter?
Joking: “Not a problem for me. No, not at all. It was great, it was awesome. And it’s the way it should be, let’s be honest.” He continues in a more serious manner: “No, it was never a problem. In fact it was never discussed. It just wasn’t. You’re the first person to bring it up to me. […] No problems. I mean, David is a really well balanced individual. And just like anybody else, whatever our role is, we take it and we do the most with it that we can. And I’m sure he probably was even hip for the storyline before I was, and he has done a lot with that character. I would say probably more than I have done with Raiden. […] In Metal Gear Solid 2 David and I worked a lot together sitting alongside one another, following waveforms across the screen, dialogue. Back then we weren’t chasing pictures.”

When MGS2 first came out, Raiden got a lot of flak. What were Quinton’s thoughts about that at the time?
“Well, I’ll be honest with you, I didn’t understand it. I didn’t.” He was quoted in an interview saying: I wasn’t aware that there was a problem, all I’m aware of is that there’s a for and against. “So it didn’t hit me on a personal level because as you know, even back than there was no virtual world like this.” Also, in his community around him there wasn’t anyone who came up to him to tell him he loved Snake and hated Raiden. “So I wasn’t bothered by it, I just didn’t understand it. Eventually I did, because what happened is, you know, Hideo Kojima was pretty clever in that he created a story and he created a character that was to be a surprise.” But he probably didn’t see the backlash coming. Even if some of the audience ends up never liking the character. “[…] That’s okay, because the best press is any press, good or bad. So as long as you’re talking…” A bit later in the interview he added: “People in general don’t like change, and the knee-jerk reaction […] usually comes from fear and anger. […] As opposed to pausing and going: alright, why don’t I try this, something new? Let’s just see how it tastes.”

The final moments of MGS2 are particularly memorable, as the ‘colonel’ AI is going crazy and starts giving Raiden incomprehensible messages. How closely did Quinton work with Paul Eiding (the colonel’s voice actor) here?
“I remember mostly about Metal Gear Solid 2 is I did get to work with pretty much everybody that I interacted with in the game.” For later installments the recording was mostly done separately, except for scenes with dense dialogue such as ones with Vamp and Raiden in MGS4. “But yeah, Paul and I worked together and some of the stuff he said to me was hilarious, it was brilliant. You know, and it was wacky, and it was nutty, and all kinds of shit’s going down. […] I just went with the flow. […] I read what was on the page, they told me what to do, they explained the situation, and then I went with it, you know? It’s all about playing. It really is. And yeah, we had a great time.”

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Quinton: “I guess [Raiden] was excited about that, and who wouldn’t be?”

On the subject of Raiden’s famous ‘naked cartwheels’, Quinton said: “Well, it is funny, and when you’re young, it’s weird. It’s like it doesn’t make any sense. In fact, as an adult, I wonder: what was Hideo thinking?” (For our thoughts on what Raiden’s nudeness may signify within the story of the game, you can visit this article) Quinton added that there hasn’t been a moment in his life where he had to do a naked cartwheels, but if he had the skills and the ability he might choose to do them anyway.

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Raiden has changed quite a bit throughout the games, how did Quinton approach that?
“I had to re-audition for the role.” This was to show the team that he was able to give them the changes that they needed for the character. “So again, it came down to: where is this guy today? What does he sound like? You know, what has happened? […] He’s gone through hell and back, and he’s a world-weary, war-torn cyborg ninja. So that had to apply, not only in my acting, but it was their choice to drop the voice, it wasn’t mine. I was quite happy to do it, because I love changing voices, that’s what we do as voice actors. […] And than the fact that there’ was this duplicitous nature was even better, […] it’s almost like getting two characters in one.”

Does the feedback on Raiden in MGS2 have anything to do with the change in voice?
“That I wouldn’t know, quite honestly. […] It’s a good question. You’d have to ask Hideo Kojima, I don’t think he speaks English. […] Quite honestly I don’t know, they didn’t tell me, and it wasn’t for me to… it was almost like being a part of a secret organization or the FBI or the CIA, on a need-to-know basis. […] Kinda like at the end of MGS4 where Rose shows up with Raiden’s son. It’s like, I didn’t see that coming, I had no idea.”

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Yong: How do you think Raiden dealt with Snake’s death after the events of MGS4?
“Depending on how much humanity he has, it depends on how he would be affected. I’m sure it would be devastating, as a loss is to anybody, but I’m sure also that he would take along what he learned from Snake with him, and try, as we do when we learn from others, try to take the best bits, and then carry on. And then I would say that sometimes there would be reminders for him in his life of Snake, through others.” These would remind Raiden to do the right thing. So Quinton thinks Snake’s death would be a life lesson for Raiden, as it is for anyone who loses someone. “You can’t live and not react, and not be affected. And I think for him, it probably would turn into a greater conviction. Certainly he would have anger about it, he would act out, as many people do, myself included, when you’re in a hurt place. And then he would find a balance, when somebody speaks reasonably to him and maybe to his more rational self.”

Yong: Which Raiden do you prefer voicing (young MGS2 / cyborg MGS4 / Jack the Ripper)?
“I think Revengeance is what I dig the most, that blend of Raiden. I think it’s a delicious blend, I think we should be able to buy it at Starbucks or any coffee house. […] I do love Raiden, and I love playing that role. […] I would say, probably of all my characters, he is my favorite, next to Spiderman. Because I’ve gotten to do so much as an actor. I’ve gotten to cover the full range of emotions and spectrum that I have as an artist. And I was honored by BTVA [Behind The Voice Actors], in getting ‘best male performance in a lead role in a video game’ for Metal Gear Rising Revengeance as Raiden. I got a BTVA award. So that’s pretty amazing, you know. That’s the first honor that I’ve received as an actor, and to get it for that says a lot. Especially because at that time I was going through a difficult time in my life personally, and I remember thinking: am I going to be able to carry this off professionally? Am I going to be able to do the best work that I need to do? And it turns out: yeah, apparently.”

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Quinton said he was very surprised to learn that David Hayter wouldn’t be voicing Snake in Metal Gear Solid V. As many will remember, initially there was a petition going around to bring Hayter back. “Not only did I sign, I wrote a letter of support to David. […] Because he’s brilliant.” Quinton said. “He’s a good friend, I love him, and he deserved the role. He originated it. […] So yeah, I supported that. And then, whatever decisions were made, as we know in any kind of business, there is more to this story that we don’t know. So it had to be some kind of a business decision. Why, I don’t know. I don’t know that I’ll ever know. And only David knows, Hideo knows. They probably know more than Kiefer knows. I think he got the job and I’m sure he was happy to do it. I’ve not heard what he has done at all. I don’t have any inside [information]. He’s Kiefer Sutherland, so I can imagine what it will sound like. I’m sure it’ll be fine, but hm… whatever.” Quinton asks the hosts about their thoughts on it. Yong explains they chose Kiefer because of the facial capture. Quinton: “And I’m going to contradict you on that, [because] David is an actor. And trust me, acting is acting is acting, don’t let anybody tell you anything different. When you’re acting with voice, you know, you have a certain set of skills. […] So there’s that, there’s acting for the stage, which is big, there’s acting for tv, which is smaller, there’s acting for film which is less […] And David could have done it just […] is capable of a job, I’m telling you. I believe it’s a business decision that has to do with commerce more than anything else. Because ultimately it’s not going to be Kiefer’s face.” It’s not that Quinton doesn’t like Kiefer. “Everything I’ve gotten from Kiefer as far as an actor and interviews I’ve seen, he just seems like a stand-up guy, genuine guy. So I’m sure he’s going to do quite a capable performance. I don’t have any problem with him.” He added that actors being replaced is ‘just a part of the game’ in the business.

Ronin: What is it about the series as a whole that keeps you reprising your role as Raiden?
“I love the role. I’m happy to do it anytime. Create an animated series, I’ll do it. I’ll do 48 episodes in a season. I’ll do a 120 in a season. I’ll do as many as you like because I love this character. […] So it’s up to them though, because they go to create it. And I’m just waiting. You know, after we did Rising Revengeance, I said to one of the creators who is a writer/producer: any thoughts on the sequel? ‘Yeah, yeah, we do, we have some thoughts on the sequel.’ I said: Any thoughts of when it might be? Now we recorded [in] 2012 if I’m not mistaken, and I thought he said ‘maybe a couple of years’. So, I had assumed, incorrectly, that we might be recording in 2014, and that didn’t happen. And then I thought: well, certainly they’re developing things. […] And then I found out the information not long ago about Hideo Kojima and Konami and that split, and then I went ‘oh noooo!'”

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Quinton’s reaction to the news of Kojima supposedly leaving Konami

“But I do wonder, and I guess it’s because I’m hopeful, that maybe… because I don’t know anything about the rights, I don’t know if Konami owns the rights and they’re like ‘it’s done, you can’t have it, you’ll never do it’ or ‘we have the rights, and we’re going to do it with somebody else’, or Kojima has worked a deal where he can go on to do it somewhere else with someone else. So these are questions I have, and I hope that they will do it again.” Yong explains that Konami will continue the series and are already hiring new talent.
Daley asks about Quinton’s opinion on this situation. Would he return as Raiden without Kojima?
“I find it unfortunate like anything, you know, it’s a breakup. Who wants mommy and daddy to divorce? No-one. […] You know, it’s a drag. And again, I’m only a child, they’re not letting me know what the real story is. When I grow up someday, maybe I’ll be able to find the papers. So there’s that. I don’t know anything about it to be able to comment on it. And as far as Konami going on without him and should they like to hire me to reprise the role, absolutely I’ll do it.” Daley says he wouldn’t want the series to die because of this situation. Quinton: “And I would hope that whatever Hideo goes on to produce in the future, that when it’s brought over to America for us to do, that I might be right for a different kind of role. […] You know, because hopefully he has interest in…” Daley interrupts to ask if Quinton got to work with Kojima a lot. “I didn’t get to work with him at all. […] I never met the man. But I was just going to say, I’m hoping he has an interest in the English speaking produced games, and likes what we’ve done, and I hope he likes what I’ve done as an actor, so that’s why I’m saying: should he have any say in the future, it would be great to able to work for him on a different project. And as far as Raiden goes and the Metal Gear series, to me it’s just like the James Bond series, or Sherlock Holmes. You know, it’s a character, it’s a story that I think needs to continue, it needs to be developed, and if that means bringing in additional people, hopefully they’ll honor the character, the story, and continue it forward in such a way that everybody gets excited. Like today’s Daniel Craig’s James Bond. Amazing to me. And BBC’s Sherlock, starring Benedict Cumberbatch, is amazing, in the same way that as a young boy I was amazed by Basil Rathbone’s Sherlock Holmes. […]”

So, in conclusion, it does seem from the interview that a sequel to Metal Gear Rising was being considered (Kojima expressed interest as well shortly before the launch of the first game), but the presumed break up between Kojima and Konami may have thrown a wrench into the plans. Of course Konami could always continue with the franchise when they want, but as of now, the future of Metal Gear remains uncertain.

To watch the entire interview follow the link in the source section.

Source: Yong

  • Eugene Voldo

    Yep. Totally agree with him. After all I’m a fan of Metal Gear series and not a fan of Hideo Kojima. That’s the difference. I have a feeling that the new team will create something fresh and amazing in Metal Gear franchise.

    P.S. Actually I want to see Shinta Nojiri directing mainline MG. In my eyes he can easily outclass Kojima in terms of game design.

    • If you’re a Metal Gear fan you’re automatically a Kojima fan. 😛 But let’s wait and see, would be nice if they could steer the series in a direction that is at least close to Kojima’s work.

      • Tanooki

        It’s not Metal Gear without Kojima. You can throw around any big name you want at the series but it’s just going to be an imitation.

        • Eugene Voldo

          But who said that the new talents are going to imitate Kojima style? Actually I really reeeeaaaally
          hope that young talents will try to find their own way. Like Kojima did in 1987 when he was directing MG.

          • Tanooki

            Might as well start a new IP in that case. Oh wait…

          • Eugene Voldo

            New IP? No, that’s called a reboot. And Konami rebooted MG in 1997. So it’s nothing new for the series.

          • invader_skoodge

            I think you should double check your definition for “NEW IP” LOL

          • No Place For Hayter

            MGS was a continuation from the first MG games, it wasn’t a reboot, it borrowed a lot of gameplay ideas from MG2, and over the course of the series story the first two MG games don’t really fit anymore and that is because Kojima makes his game in a stand alone mind set so he lets errors crop up so that he is not restricted in making his game by his old games.

            I’m going to go ahead and say I hate reboots, to me that is beating something to death, it has nothing left to offer so lets retell it and resell it again instead of doing something new, a reboot is very cheap to me, I would buy 5 new IP’s before I buy one reboot.

          • Eugene Voldo

            I always wonder why people think that the word “reboot” automatically means something completely new a-la “MGS will become f2p online-only FPS/CoD clone”? In my opinion reboot is always about a newstory canon and a new game design, which partially relies on previous titles in the series. Look at the Fallout 3 – it was definitely not a sequel to Fallout 2. It was a reboot. But still there are a lot of lore elements and role-playing features from the firsttwo games. So I think Konami will follow this path. And I’m kind of sad thatyou see a reboot as something strongly negative, but I understand your point ifyou think that without Kojima MGS is not MGS anymore.

          • No Place For Hayter

            Oh, well that kind of reboot would not be so bad, in that context MGS and Fallout 3 would be reboots, I see what you mean, I have no problem with those kind of reboots, for me reboot means to reset the whole thing, to erase everything past and simply remake it again with better tech possibly changing the story.

          • Yeah, that would probably be better.

      • Eugene Voldo

        >you’re automatically a Kojima fan

        Not necessary. For example I’m a fan of James Bond series, yet I’m not a Ian Fleming fan. That’s the difference I’m talking about.

        And I agree with you. Let’s wait andsee, because now MG series can go in any direction in terms of story, gameplay,etc. And for me that’s the exciting part of MG game from a new team.

        • It’s just that Metal Gear is the way it is, the way we know it, because of Kojima. There isn’t any other series of this scale that carries its creator’s signature as MGS does.

          • No Place For Hayter

            Yeah MGS is kind of inseparable from Kojima, Hideo Kojima is probably the most well known video game director simply because of his incredible amount of direct involvement and directing he really makes his own stuff the way he wants and is not afraid to say “I made this”. MGS is the only game series that when I want to thank someone for it I thank one guy and not a studio name, I mean the most we could trust is his team, and we aren’t even going to get them.

          • Eugene Voldo

            While I respect your views on MG series and Kojima’s obviously big role
            in its development, i want to ask you what will happen with this site after
            MGSV will be released? I see a ton of posts about how Kojima and MG inseparable
            and without Kojima it’s not MG anymore. Then what? This place will become a
            fan-site of Hideo Kojima? I hope not, but as a lurker who usually prefer to
            read discussions I starting to fear that the site will slowly become a place which contain only a blind Konami hate and hate for anything they would do with MG series 🙁

          • We will have to wait and see what happens, but if Kojima and Konami split up this site will probably cover both.

          • Eugene Voldo

            Good to hear, because in the end we all love Metal Gear series.

          • From The Distant Future

            When, if, after Kojima leaves Konami for good, will you change this website name to “kojimainformer”? Or will you continue to bring Metal Gear news even without Kojima?

          • We haven’t decided yet, a name change is a hassle though.

        • No Place For Hayter

          Nyxus means that it automatically makes you a fan of Kojima because Kojima is the one who has made every single main MGS game. When MGS becomes a huge milking franchise with spin offs, books, tv shows, then you can detach the brand “MGS” from Kojima, but currently Kojima is the only person who has made MGS so it would be contradictory to say you are a fan of MGS but not a fan of Kojima’s work. Though being a fan of Kojima personaly and his other products are a different thought train in which it would not be contradictory to ‘be a fan of MGS but not a fan of Kojimas other works’ or ‘a fan of MGS but not a fan the actually person Kojima.

    • Shalashaska

      hehe are you new ? Meant with no disrespect buddy. but mgs is a perfection only kojima can make. 🙂

      fresh is something fifa or nfs needs tbh. or creed. yea THAT reallllyy needs it.

    • No Place For Hayter

      “P.S. Actually I want to see Shinta Nojiri directing mainline MG. In my
      eyes he can easily outclass Kojima in terms of game design.”

      I don’t know what it is but seeing someone say that on a MGS news site is just funny to me, Probably because it is the last thing I thought I would ever read in a place like this, lol. Not that it is anyway a bad thing, just funny to me.

      • Eugene Voldo

        Well, what can I say? I’m sorry that I had a lot of fun playing Metal Gear Acid 🙁

        • Cobra

          Ac!d wasn’t great imo, but I still stand by Ac!d 2 as being excellent; everything a good sequel should be. Plus Tsubasa Masao’s cyberpunk-y art direction was fantastic (I remember people at the time complaining it wasn’t similar to Shinkawa, but wasn’t that kinda the point?) and it had a soundtrack to die for. Total shame it was a commercial flop, that game really did deserve better.

          Anyway, any idea what Nojiri’s been up to lately? After NeverDead ended up being terrible, I don’t think I’ve even heard his name mentioned anywhere. He still with Konami?

          • Eugene Voldo

            Sadly the last time we heard about Shinta Nojiri he was working on a mobile
            title. I assume he is still working under Konami, but I don’t think that after all his
            commercial flops someone in Konami upper management would give him a second
            chance. He’s definitely a talented game designer and it’s quite unfortunate
            that his AAA-run ended with NeverDead 🙁

  • Tanooki

    I get that none of the voice actors fully understand the lore of this series but there is NOTHING left to tell after TTP. Some fans don’t know when to let go.

    • Tong Ninja

      The Boss’s origin story and Raiden’s story between MGS2 and MGS4. That’s pretty much all the stories that they can tell after TTP.

      • Shalashaska

        or they could let go of mgs and continue mgrising 🙂

        • Mr.Pony

          Really hoping that by “We’ll continue making MGS games” Konami really means “We are going to Leave MGS saga completely and focus on MGR” , rather see that one going to ashes instead of MGS.

          • Shalashaska

            Same here 🙂 The meme sums it up EXACTLY.

      • Tanooki

        There’s enough of The Boss’ story in MGS3 and Peace Walker. There really isn’t much left to say about her. And between 2 and 4? We know Raiden gets turned into a cyborg, saves sunny and goes on to help Solid Snake and Co. Make a game out of either if you want but I’m not interested.

        • They actually wrote a story for Raiden between MGS2 and 4, for the original concept of Metal Gear Solid Rising. And who knows how good a game about The Boss could have been?

        • Tong Ninja

          For the Boss’ story, there is a lot of potential for story. How she assembled the Cobra unit, relationship with her unit, fighting in wars, her relationship with Sorrow, training young Big Boss, etc.

          • Shalashaska

            although i love her character. i dont think they should show too much of her. mystery was good 🙂

          • Tong Ninja

            But who knows, maybe Kojima will add Boss’ story into TPP (extra episodes) and she can be a playable character. 🙂

      • No Place For Hayter

        I kinda always liked the idea of a game about Big Boss’s fall out with the patriots, it would be awesome to see Zero and Big Boss build a relationship and then to have it fall apart because of Zero’s greed and his hunger for control and power, throw in a a big incident that triggers these revelations and a metal gear, and you have a MGS game.

    • Le Guy who drowned quiet

      UHM TPP!

    • No Place For Hayter

      Just wait for that troll twist in TPP that allows for infinite sequels and allows Konami to milk it to death, lol.

  • Shalashaska

    ok honestly.. i dont think anyone can make half as good of a mgs without kojima. and where konami is headed, im 110 sure of that. so i say, let the series die with dignity rather than turn it into metal creed. it hurts but id rather see it die than turn into crap.

    MGR though… that just began so it would be ok to see more parts of that.

    • Tong Ninja

      I would like a sequel for MGR. I enjoy hack and slash games too! 🙂
      Slicing your enemies into millions of pieces feels so satisfying haha

      • Shalashaska

        throw in thoughtfull stealth missions with different ways to complete mmissions and the freddom to explore and to slash the world around you = GOTY

        • Mr.Pony

          Stealth mission in MGR could be such a cool thing to do, and since MGR does’nt have such a complex background story as MGS it would way easier to make one.

          • Shalashaska

            exactly.. there was “stealth” in mgr.. but my god. i never understood that thing :S but it would be a great addition 🙂

          • Mr.Pony

            Stealth? you mean those moments between fights where you are just running to the next one? Can’t blame them they actually warn about that “Raiden this is not a stealth mission” or something like that.

          • Shalashaska

            no no.. there are hostages youve gotta save without alert .. cant remember how many were there tho..

          • Mr.Pony

            hostage rescue? That’s not MGR, that’s CS xD

          • Shalashaska

            dude.. its mgr.. wait.. when i get home.. il find a video showing it .. although..if u have the game.. get to the part where they first show that silent kill technique.. its the 2nd mission..then they show the visor mode… thats where theres a hostage nd u have to save him without alert..if not they kill him 🙂

        • Tong Ninja

          Along with epic boss battles. Each boss will have their own theme song like the first MGR!

          • Shalashaska

            oh yeaaaaa i loved the tracks! my fav one was the one where u fight that samurai guy on the highway. its aawweessommeee.

  • matttt

    MGR II: Fruit Ninja for iPhone coming soon

    • Tanooki

      Or an Outer Heaven farm simulator.

      • Boromir

        Isn’t that basically Peace Walker?

        • You can’t pay to win Peace Walker.

        • No Place For Hayter

          Don’t diss my beautiful Peace Walker.

  • Golgari

    I’m not sure that you can continue Metal Gear without Kojima and his team. It’s not Call Of Duty where you can reboot it all the time with different names on them with different teams. Metal Gear has a lot of lore and characters that are created with Kojima Productions team in mind… you can’t just make it new and fresh with cardboard box on it with stealth gameplay without original creators. It’s not going to be Metal Gear. It’s going to be a different stealth game with the same stealth concept with Metal Gear Brand.

    Konami’s decision is almost the same with the Team Silent except the fact that current Kojima’s team is very talented and capable in creating great AAA titles with the next gen Fox engine. But that’s not going to be for so long.

    • Well CoD went downhill too imo, after a few good men got fired. I don’t see how one can continue a franchise without it’s original Director

      • Joaquin Romero Victorica

        kojima or fuck off!

        • Shalashaska

          The last Catslevania was THE ONLY thing that came out a LITTLE good from Konami in the past years (Other than the mgs series)… and PES was an incomplete game pushed out months early.. As for castlevania.. it was alright.. not great but not that bad either.. it clearly did need alot of work though. Alot.

          • Kawaii Monster

            you do know that Kojima helped work on Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 1 he was an executive producer, maybe thats why it was good, not sure about part 2 since I didn’t play it

    • MrVux007

      There are plenty of briliant minds in the world …some greater then Kojima himself…so no,at the moment everything is possible

      • No Place For Hayter

        He was mostly talking about what makes “MGS” “MGS”, not so much about the quality, even with great people working on it it won’t be “MGS” without at least Kojima productions working on it.

      • There may be but surely no one who thinks the same as Kojima

      • Kol Leqejza

        so who are those brilliant video game directors you are talking about and nobody else seem to know of?!?!

        • MrVux007

          to mention a few :Shigeru Miyamoto,Fumito Ueda, Goichi Suda,Hideki Kamiya and my personal favorite Hidetaka Miyazaki….these great minds are much alike to Kojima (maybe not Miyamoto,but he still has a lot of potential)…but I was mostly referring to new,upcoming game directors that we are yet to hear about …

          • glitchbomb

            Suda 51 metal gear? Ehh. As much as I love him….. no.

          • Kol Leqejza

            the only one who could pull that off, would be that shadow of the collosus guy. but he would need to work with kojipro veterans, maybe even hire a second director to get the gameplay right.

          • MrVux007

            *that shadow of colossus guy* is already mentioned in my comment,Fumito Ueda…Fumito along Hideo are known in the industry as *Game Masters* ….and no ,there would be no need for the second director for the gameplay with these mentioned masterminds….Kojima is good,but so are the other guys,Kojima said that many times himself….also he is a fan of Miyazaki 🙂

          • Kol Leqejza

            yeah, dude i know u mentioned him. i looked all of them up & ueda would be the only one imo, that could pull it of, even if his narrative approach is quite another one. so no hard feelings, ok?

          • MrVux007

            lol why would i have hard feelings…we are having a civil discussion,one metal gear fan to another…

          • Kol Leqejza

            i thought u were upset, that’s all.

  • Paul

    I sometimes wonder if Mitt Romney has a large “piece”. I would REALLY like to look and see what he is packing in between his legs…

  • Batzi

    I highly disagree with this statement. After MGSV, Metal Gear is done.

    • SiodogRehane

      big boss saga sure, u can see it like i do resident evil ended for me on 3, the other ones are spin offs i enjoy playing yet its not the same

      • Le Guy who drowned quiet

        4 was awesome.well

    • No Place For Hayter

      I see through you, you are hear to simply say what everyone is thinking so you can get upvotes, I see your evil plan and I will not upvote you………. oh crap, too late.

      • Raymondius

        He misses Gaf…

        😛

    • Le Guy who drowned quiet

      Mgs is not like films unfortunately.mgs is a game.mgs will become resident evil.kojima will make his own stealth game mikami style and we MGS fans will play it.

      • Dr. Miles Manners

        I doubt it, since it would be going into the very thing you wanted to finish long ago. Kojima now have a perfect excuse to carry on with different projects without fans or Konami to get him back into another MGS game.

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    Ground Zeroes is the only MGS I ever finished and was first MGS I ever played(Played for about 80hours and still want to replay it) and I know whitout Hideo Kojima this series will be dead. I had chance to play Mgs1 and twin snakes but didnt have chance to finish them. Ground zeroes is the best stealth game I ever played(played Assassins creed1-3, splinter cell1-4 and all Hitman).

    I dont know the details(Maybe Hideo Kojima wanted to leave Konami, or maybe He was fired) but without Him this seires should never continue.

    Next Metal Gear will probably be like Assassins creed because without Kojima, Konami will just focus on free roam and better battle system and will forget about stealth.

    But There is still Phantom Pain coming and I hope this will be the best game I ever played.

    • No Place For Hayter

      In that case the only thing you will be missing is the guards having radios instead of all being mentally linked together.

      Yeah even if Konami made another AAA big MGS game they would focus on all the wrong parts of the game/games.

      • jhsnake

        yes totally agree! lol the boots , arm, motorcycle, jacket , toys , and thousands of interviews …
        but at least with the “Metal Gear Chopper Images ” some little thing could extract or deduce! was fun to speculate that… i repeat waiting E3!

  • CR7HarisSnake

    The whole registration thing didnt work for me the whole time but i am following this great site for almost a year, but now somehow it worked :p . Greetingz from Germany and thank you Nyxus and the whole community here. ;)))

    • No Place For Hayter

      Welcome! glad to have another comrade at our side 🙂

      • CR7HarisSnake

        Do u have psn? 🙂

        • No Place For Hayter

          Yes, my username and console information is in our list of online people, under the “links” portion of MGI. Note: I’m on line 1000

          • CR7HarisSnake

            Yes now i found you 😀 wasnt thinking to scroll down

    • Shalashaska

      welcome to the best community on the internet 😀

      • CR7HarisSnake

        Shala do u have psn?

    • Gatsu

      Welcome brother :), hope you enjoy chatting with us!

  • Just leaving this here.

    • Venom_Sina

      This is pure gold!!!Thanks,Boss.

    • Kawaii Monster

      I’ve never laughed so hard at a MGS spoof

    • invader_skoodge

      Bases…I sneak that
      Bosses….I beat that
      Metal Gears…………..I DESTROY THAT!!!! OOOOHHH!!!!!!
      Bu I’m not a rapper.

    • God dam it I can’t even watch it, not available in my country…duh Germany please.

      • WrongDirectionZ

        same here… ^^ thats so ridiculous!!

    • Gatsu

      ;D omg

    • Shalashaska

      haha man i cant stop watching this.. everytime i visit this thread i end up watching and laughing at this again xD Thanks Nyx!

    • Vegas

      That’s brazillian. I’m brazillian *-* #pride

  • FOX

    Well, he’s not a gamer or a metal gear solid fan.So he doesn’t feel what we feel for mgs and kojima.He says it should contuine so he can make money.

    • flying_fox

      Yes. Like James Horan, he just wants more opportunities to make money.

      Like James Horan, also, he never quite understood what he did with his character. ^^

      • CR7HarisSnake

        Yea, it makes me realy sad when a voice actor i realy like gives statements like this. But obviously that is the reality.

    • Shalashaska

      Well honestly, he isnt to blame. He is just the voice actor. Cut him some slack, guy is probably busy doing alot of work or something. Either way, I’d say the same thing if i was in his place. He is a part of an establishment and to keep getting more jobs, he requires to keep good face. If i was in his, place, i’d do the same. In the end of the day, you still need a job to feed yourself and your family so its alright. I dont blame him 🙂

      Plus have you ever heard professionals bash each other ? They almost never do that because they gotta keep face.. sad.. but true :/
      Saying anything else would eventually lead up to a controversy, could cost his job and degrade his value as a trusted employee.. Nobody wants that..

      Its great to see Actors/Voice actors be interested in their job as much as we are in theirs. But unfortunately.. not everyone is the same.. so although its a plus plus. Its not a mandatory thing..
      Plus youve gotta realize.. the job isnt easy on them and although to some people .. playing games is relaxing.. maybe it isnt for them..

  • captain!

    i want to kiss quinton

  • Venom_Sina

    Hey guys.Take a look at this.It’s funny:

    • invader_skoodge

      “Konami is committed to new Silent Hill titles, however the embryonic ‘Silent Hills’ project developed with Guillermo del Toro and featuring the likeness of Norman Reedus will not be continued.

      In terms of Kojima and Del Toro being involved, discussions on future Silent Hill projects are currently underway, and please stay tuned for further announcements.” -KONAMI

      Funny how they used the “Silent Hills” title and the footage from P.T. that features Norman Reedus. And they used the Ground Zeroes tagline “From ‘FOX’ two phantoms where born.” And who takes pictures at an angle?

      http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Kermit_434ade_891425.gif

  • invader_skoodge

    I said it before and I said it again. MGSV: TPP will be my last Konami game. After this game the franchise is dead to me. MGS could not exist without Kojima. Sure they could bring a new team and a new director but never will it feel like a true MGS game. Some people think Kojima is just being egotistical when he plasters his name on everything. What they fail to realize is that when doing that, he has made the conscious decision to take responsibility for EVERYTHING. If something goes wrong, nobody is going to blame Konami, nobody is going to blame the QA testers, nobody is going to blame the producers like KenIchiro Imaizumi. All eyes will be on Kojima. That’s why he always makes sure to be involved with every aspect of developing. I hope the behind-the-scenes that comes with the collectors edition shows that the same way the MGS4 behind-the-scenes did. If you’ve seen kojima station episodes you would see that Kojima was the one who tested the facial capture the first thing to get scanned into the FOX Engine. He was there for that as you can see in the stefanie video, he was there directing the Mo-Cap and coming up with new things on the spot said by stefane’s interview with YongYea, in the english kojistation you hear one of the level designers saying that Kojima was there overseeing things and giving notes. You can see from his twitter pictures he used to post of the chopper that he’s been playing the game doing QA finding and fixing bugs. I don’t think you’ll ever find that level of commitment from one person with MGS or any other franchise for that matter. That’s the reason MGS had stood the test of time. That’s why I think that a MGS without Kojima won’t be a true MGS game.

  • Osama Desmond

    The continuation of a series of difficult without Kojima. with lovers MGS series and I’m one of them. It should continue series with Kojima only

  • LegendarySnake51

    Impressive article thank’s Nyxus!

  • JoJo

    I originally said “There is no way I’ll play the new Metal Gear games without Kojima” but honestly I’ll probably at least follow the development of the first one at least, and if it looks decent I’ll play it (though I’ll probably pirate it or buy it second hand).

    I get not wanting to support it after Kojima leaves, I really do, it’s just that it might still be a good game regardless, and the developers working on it after Kojima is gone deserve to have their game viewed on its own merits. The developers themselves didn’t fire Kojima, they just want to make a game and get it out there. It’s not fair to them to blackball them because we disagree with what the executives did. That’s just what I think anyway; if the new games are garbage, they’re garbage and that’s it.

    • Shalashaska

      no, you see the fans heavily depend on kojima on making a unique and great expirience with perfection. i can say without a doubt that kojima is a perfectionist who loves his game ironed out. no other dev ever does that. no dev/company makes a famous series and not dish it out while its broken with rehashed mechanics and better or same graphics because they know the casual gameer will buy it. where as kojima takes a step forward each time. and thats why we say its dead. bexause we would rather see it die than turn into the next sims or the cod or acreed..

      • JoJo

        I agree with you, though Kojima has said he’d like to pass the torch for a while now. Like I said, I understand the hesitation, I feel it too and that’s why I haven’t said definitively that I’ll buy the game because I don’t know what sort of game it will be yet.

        Konami are up the creek without a paddle in the eyes of fans right now, and most fans are casting a disapproving eye at the new Metal Gear series, rightly so. I believe that the developers will be feeling the same pressure and hopefully they can produce a quality title. It may be that nobody has Kojima’s perfectionist eye, but maybe they’ll bring something of their own to the table that we may end up loving just as much. I mean, people said David Hayter was ESSENTIAL for Snake, yet Kiefer has been welcomed mostly by now. Kojima created and nurtured Metal Gear for nearly 30 years, but I refuse to call it explicitly dead until the next title comes out. It’s also important to note I don’t condone Konami’s apparent firing of Kojima at all, I despise their business practice, but the suits are not the nerds developing the game and I won’t tar them all with the same brush even though I completely understand why people are.

        • Shalashaska

          Well something like this is best just waited out for .. But Trust me when i say this, gaming is turning into pay to win filled with cut out content as dlcs and pay to lvl up faster stuff. and if we continue down the path that way, there is no hope for MGS. To top that, Konami IS going to make those types of games (“Mobile gaming is where the future lies”).. So I highly doubt a good mgs can come out of greedy people’s hands.
          its like expecting the makers of clash of clans to make a fifa game .. you know waht they’ll do ? Keep an energy bar which allow you to play 3 matches and then wait for a day to play more. or pay to get more energy. It sick to people actually pay for crap like that.

          As for the kiefer and Hayter argument.. Nah.. I still think Hayter would be good but youve gotta understand.. the ONLY reason I as a fan am OK with Kiefer as boss and not Hayter .. is BECAUSE it WAS KOJIMA’s decision and i trust him 🙂 Still wish it was hayter thought.. but then again.. theres the whole thing on hayter being snake and kiefer being boss 😀

          • No Place For Hayter

            Ugh, the current gaming industry… gross.

    • Eugene Voldo

      Amazing post! Completely agree with everything you have said. I think every Metal Gear fan should give a chance to Konami and its new team. And if Konami fails to deliver then it’s only natural to move on.

      • JoJo

        Konami itself has been horrible, which is why I said I’ll probably buy the game second hand, but the game itself may be good. Until I see otherwise I’m going to be cautiously optimistic or at the very least neutral.

  • Javier

    I remember that “2”. That is why he wants more metal gear games. I am not fan of rising, but I dont have problems with rising 2. And we still want metal gear cobra “the boss” and a remake of the 8 bits games.

  • Gatsu

    Amazing article as always Nyx :). I would like to see MGR2 happen some day, because I did enjoy the first one. Quinton ftw :D. I hope we get Robin Atkin Downes interview too.

    Anyway, I think it would be best if MGS would end after TPP and take creative minds towards something else. But I know…it gives lot of money. One reason is because it is Kojima’s last game and also, because the story comes about full circle. Not much story left to tell… BUT there is some I would’ve have loved to see by Kojima: MGS6: The Boss and MGS7: Uprising/Zanzibar Land, depends on if TPP even go that far.

    Don’t know if I will give the new MGS games a try, if they ever come. Even though how Konami has handled this whole thing, I might try them in future. It depends on how they’re done, I’m just scared they end up being horrible because of the new developing team. MGS games always have been masterpieces to me, I love the series more than any other series. I don’t want it to get tainted by a shitty game because of new dudes doing it, but can’t be 100% sure how it would be like so all I can do is wait.

    I was happy with Snake’s voice change to Kiefer, even though I love David. So who knows maybe I will be ok with the new game. But I know a game is different than just one voice actor, anyway maybe after all this madness ends at Konami I’m able to think more clearly ’cause I mostly hate Konami right now. And is MGS dead to me after TPP? I dunno, it don’t feel the same without Kojima so maybe it is. Not many have the same kind of brains as Kojima does and the games are always delivering amazing story+characters. I would like to hear what Kojima has to say about all this, in his own words so maybe we fans can understand all this situation better.

    I’ve tried to stay kinda neutral with all this, it’s hard when seeing how they treated PT and SH too :(… Makes me wanna bury Konami after TPP but maybe I’ll see what happen first.

    This reminds me of some movies, that don’t need any more sequels because they usually end up being shitty. Look at Star Wars, it did not in my opinion need a 7th movie (which comes this year btw). It does look great for what I’ve seen and is made by a great director.

  • Hi all! Been lurking on here for a long time but for some reason it’s taken me until now to join lol. How’s everybody doing?

    • Shalashaska
    • Welcome!

    • Gatsu

      Welcome brother ^_^, good to have more people joining our Outer Heaven! it also took me a while to start posting comments in the beginning lol XD.

      Doing fine thx ;).

      • Thanks, Gatsu. Glad to be here 🙂

      • Le Guy who drowned quiet

        your a really and an extremely good guy that ive not seen on other sites.

        • Gatsu

          Well thank you bro ;D, but I’m not the only one ^^. This such a great community because of us all :).

          • Le Guy who drowned quiet

            By lucky I mean you came to this site after me(I came during e3 2013) and now you are a mod/the top commenter and the friendliest guy on this website(well others are really friendly too but?)

          • Gatsu

            Yeah I guess got pretty lucky. Don’t exactly remember when I joined :), but it was somewhere in 2013. I prefer posting politely as it’s how I also behave outside the net ;D, as for being top commenter well I dunno about that haha.

            I admit sometimes I post too much when got other things to do also, but I just can’t help it if there are great news posted by Nyxus and I love chatting here with you all ^_^. Gonna miss this when TPP release :(, hopefully some will stick around after playing TPP and MGO.

    • James Raskalov

      I understand how it is. I usually lurk around without speaking my opinions on things.
      Good to have you here.

      • Thanks, bud!

        • But don’t forget that eventually, this ride will come to an end. But the memories will last forever!

    • Tong Ninja

      We’re doing fine.
      Just waiting around, having discussions and debates on topics about MGSV: TPP till it comes out on 1st September. 🙂

      • Yeah, the wait is killing me. Luckily I got the HD collection to keep me going until TPP gets here 😉

    • No Place For Hayter

      I’m doing great, and welcome, glad to have you. *Throws in a sarcastic remark about how it was all a trap and we are all actually evil*

      We got another lurker, lol, be lurker no more. I’m still half lurker though, sometimes I just stop commenting for a while lol. The community is growing, slowly but shirley.

      • Thanks for the warm welcome, friend 🙂

    • Mini gear

      glad to have you onboard freind,(free hype train ticket for you)

      • Thanks, bud! There’s always room for more on the hype train. Especially when Hideo Kojima’s in the driver’s seat! 😉

      • Le Guy who drowned quiet

        CHOO CHOO!

    • kirtanloorii

      Welcome to the hype party!

    • Raymondius

      Everyone here has felt that at least once. Now join us!

      There won’t be a better time to be a Metal Gear fan, my friend. 🙂

      • That’s true. Thanks, bud!

  • Kol Leqejza

    kojima said after every entry in the series it will be his last one & will pass the torch. and i’m ok with that, if they will make still monumental games as kojima did.

    • No Place For Hayter

      I always wanted Kojima to pass the torch to his team, to kinda just drop the torch and have someone else pick it up doesn’t mean the same thing to me as Kojima passing the torch.

      • Kol Leqejza

        then kojima was lying for about nearly 20 years & this is uncool. every time he said “it’s my last one”, i was in shock & near dead. so…. he gets what he always wanted, i guess. yeah, it’s all konamis fault, i know, but in german there is a phrase: “wie man in den wald hineinschreit so schallt es auch wieder zurück”.

  • Gatsu

    The next 2 weeks are gonna go so slowly while waiting for E3 … I wish it would start on weekend evening like Saturday and not Tuesday, because there’s a good chance I won’t be able to see it fully through a live stream thanks to work. Depends on at what time it is held. If I remember correctly it’s starting on June 16th :P.

    I wonder if Kojima will post some tweets about it soon :), if he’s allowed to.

    • No Place For Hayter

      Pretty sure its June 16th yeah. Thankfully though I will be able to see it, better be something good though because that’s pretty close to my birthday, I could use a TPP birthday surprise, lol.

      • Gatsu

        🙂 nice that you can see it, happy birthday in advance btw ;D. Yeah it’s difficult for me when got about 7h time difference with LA. Hoping we find out the detailed time schedules for the event soon and when TPP might appear.

        • CodeBox

          E3 starts on June 15th (Monday), with the exception of Bethesda’s Conference which is on the 14th (Sunday Night).
          Here are the Conference Schedules:

          Bethesda
          June 14 – 7pm PT / 10pm ET

          Microsoft
          June 15 – 9:30am PT/12:30pm

          EA
          June 15 – 1pm PT / 4pm ET

          Ubisoft
          June 15 – 3pm PT / 6pm ET

          Sony
          June 15 – 6pm PT / 9pm ET

          Nintendo
          June 16 – 9am PT/ 12pm ET

          Square Enix
          June 16 – 10am PT/ 1pm ET

          PC Gaming Show
          June 16 – 5pm PT/8pm ET

          Can’t wait for E3!
          Not sure where TPP will show up.
          If I remember correctly Microsoft had it back in 2013, and Sony had it at their conference last year, hope we know before hand where it will be.

          • No Place For Hayter

            Fingers crossed for something good 🙂

          • Gatsu

            Arigatou :).

  • Gatsu

    Holy shit, I love the consequences your choices have in Witcher 3. I thought I was doing the right decision in one quest just now, but because of it some folks die lol…goddammit D: … Will be awesome if TPP got something similar :).

    • Mini gear

      the choices are so diffcult, id love hard choices in tpp 🙂

      • Gatsu

        Yeah some of them are :), I honestly didnt think it would have that kind of effect later on lol. Not just being black and white which is great.

        Well in TPP buddies can die and that is cool, gotta be careful. But I wonder if we get to make choices in some missions, launch nuke yes or no ;D …

        • Mr.Pony

          Save DD or save Quiet worst decision moment ever if it happens

        • Aleezy

          Hell yeah. You bet your ass that I’m dropping nukes on the first mother base that steals from me. Hopefully he/she has child soldiers and little puppies too lol. Venom Snake has no heart.

        • Mini gear

          Everyone gets nukes,hack, maybe if we did do something like that the fury would pop out of nowhere for burning the world. :p

  • glitchbomb

    I prefer a little cream in my REVENGENCE BLEND!

    • Gatsu

      That’s pretty cool :D.

  • jhsnake

    I also want to introduce my self! though no interesting new appears in this (long) last time, i still keep checking this site daily to see something interesting about … I look forward to E3 to see a trailer and enough of these empty news! xD

    • No Place For Hayter

      Welcome, the more the merrier 🙂

      Yeah, lol. Looking forward to E3, the merchandise for TPP has become the new helicopter pictures for news.

    • Gatsu

      Welcome the the great community <3, hope you enjoy your stay! Really looking forward to E3 also, not much longer for a last trailer/gameplay!

    • Edward Wokhands

      Welcome! As the above 2 regulars said, we should get some news at E3 hopefully. I still check this everyday too even if it’s just to check the timer. When it changed from “months” to “days” I got excited all over again. Time is going quick!

    • ObsessedGeorge

      Please tell me he will not be BB.

      • The only think I can tell is than I’m relatively surprised for the extremely low quantity of Solidus Snake’s character appearence themed discussions/theories/hypothesis in MGSV after all this time (years) and, maybe, Kiefer Sutherland is “just” his voice/facial capture actor… who knows until next september 1…

        Somebody MUST be the voice/facial capture actor of Solidus Snake in MGSVTPP that’s for sure imho, maybe it’s him… lol

        https://twitter.com/DavidBHayter/status/347213210379751425

    • Le Guy who drowned quiet

      whats this?twitter doesnt work on my pc(images included)

      • Try refreshing the page with “F5”

        • Le Guy who drowned quiet

          Don’t worry I have my ipad.image is creepy.the f5 thing didn’t work 🙁

      • Gatsu

        Have you tried using different browsers :)? I use Mozilla and the images work for me. On my tablet though, I can’t see the images anymore unless I press the link/name. It wasn’t that way first, don’t remember when it changed like that.

        • Le Guy who drowned quiet

          Tried Mozilla too.I use chrome.didnt try explorer since I deleted it.

    • MrVux007

      ahhh i love him so much…good to see him joking around,even after he got F-ed in the A…. 🙂

    • No Place For Hayter

      Rofl, hahaha. Well played Hayter.

  • Gatsu

    I have yet to read the Moby Dick book, which I would love to do. Just because of MGSV (Ahab & Ishmael stuff) and I hear it’s pretty good book with epic story. Would’ve done it already if I wasn’t such a lazy reader ;).

    Anyway, this December there is coming a movie about Moby Dick, called “In the Heart of the Sea” :D, if some don’t know. The trailer looks awesome and definitely gonna go watch it. It was supposed to come in cinemas during March already but was pushed back to December I think, too bad don’t release before TPP :P.

    • Javier

      I don’t remember well the Ishmael thing. Could you tell me something? How do you know the guy with bandages is called ishmael?

      • Gatsu

        Well in the hospital gameplay demo, which most likely is in beginning of TPP, the bandage dude say to Big Boss: “Okey Ahab, time to go.”
        Captain Ahab is the main character in Moby Dick book.

        After Big Boss ask who he is, bandage dude say: “You can call me Ishmael.”

        Ishmael is the narrator of the book, I think ;D. The book begin with the words, “Call me Ishmael” or something like that. But I could be wrong because haven’t read it :).
        https://youtu.be/doZuIaHR8Gg?t=340

        • Javier

          oh thanks man. Without subtitles I never understand well what they are saying. I have the video in my pc, time to watch it again

  • Le Guy who drowned quiet

    Yong yea interview with Lori Alan confirmed!she wanted it to happen after 2 weeks.

  • LegendarySnake51

    If you you have Twitch, you can follow me here : http://www.twitch.tv/legendary_snake_v/profile I will make MGS streams soon (MGSV GZ & TPP) and I posted here bacause there are true MGS Fans. More 91 days to wait the beast!

    • No Place For Hayter

      Accidental upvote of my own comment in 3…..2……1…..

  • Ninja_Se7eN

    IMHO the only way for the MGS series to continue after Kojima leaves Konami is for Konami to sell the rights to Mr. Kojima and let him continue to work on the series as he sees fit.

    Unfortunately that doesn’t seem very likely to me.

    • Edward Wokhands

      I wish I could give you infinite upvotes.

      • Ninja_Se7eN

        Thank you. I just wish Konami would stop this madness.

  • dave-pliskin

    honestly, who gives half a fuck what quinton flynn has to say about this series?

  • PrinceHeir

    I love Quintonn Flynn. He really perfected the voice of what Raiden should be. Rookie inexperienced soldier thrown out in the real battle. Only experienced he has are VR Missions. Even though he later remembered he was a child soldier back then, pretty much all he did during the Plant incident was all thanks to his VR training as well as Snake’s back up.

    And correction, Hayter didn’t originated Snake. Not sure why Quintonn said that. Maybe popularize in the English audience, but the character and voice were already made in Japan well before the release in the US and other parts.

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