The 5 best Solidus Snake Quotes
Solidus Snake, the only one of the Enfants Terribles who stars in just a single title – barring his bottled remains that were used as a diversion in the events of MGS4. Still, Solidus is one of the most beloved characters in the series, a charismatic villain with some indisputable ideals, but also a ruthless man who goes to such lengths to achieve his goals that it would disturb even Machiavelli. He’s a bastard, but one who we can’t help but like. And eloquent as he is, he has a lot of memorable pieces of dialogue. Here are five of his best quotes.
“Jack, those days during the civil war were as real as they come… Every day was absolute, split between life and death. You ran from it, and now, you’ve been lead back to war by something less than real.”
If there’s one quote that really captures the spirit of MGS2, it’s this one. Raiden tried to run from his tragic past, tried to forget it ever existed, but his memories wouldn’t let go of him. The Patriots constructed a false reality for him, but he also constructed one on his own, in his own mind. When we hear this quote, we don’t actually see Solidus yet, his voice echoes through the air as if it’s just in Raiden’s mind, like a vivid memory. But as soon as Solidus has spoken these words, he suddenly appears in physical form, he becomes real in a sense. Raiden’s worst nightmare is back, standing right in front of him.
“We’re all born with an expiration date. No one lasts forever. Life is nothing but a grace period for turning our genetic material into the next generation. The data of life is transferred from parent to child. That’s how it works. But we have no heirs, no legacy. Cloned from our father with the ability to reproduce conveniently engineered out. What is our legacy if we cannot pass the torch? Proof of our existence – a mark of some sort.”
Right before the final battle atop Federal Hall, Solidus explains to Raiden that he’s not simply after power. His goals lie somewhere else. He does not have the ability to pass on his genes, but passing the torch is more than that: there’s also information to be imparted. The fact that the Patriots are seeking to control that aspect as well is what truly drives him to end their reign. To Solidus, if he’s unable of leaving behind any mark, it’s as if he never existed. And that is something he cannot live with.
“Damn the Patriots…!”
Short and simple. Solidus just took out no less than three Metal Gear RAYs who where coming after him after the system went berserk due to Emma’s virus. Solidus makes short work of the mechanical beasts, and less than a minute later they collapse on the floor. But the real enemy he has in his sights is the power behind it all: the Patriots. Solidus does not fear them, he damns them, and just as he’s standing over the burning remains of their machines, so too will he come after them.
“Unless you kill me and face your past, Jack, you will never escape. You’ll stay in the endless loop — your own double helix.”
His whole life Raiden has been trapped by his past. He tried to run, tried to forget, tried to manufacture a new identity, tried to erase his childhood from existence – along with the man who was at the center of it all, Solidus Snake. But the one thing he could never do was accept it. And as a result the reality of his past kept coming back to haunt him in his dreams. Solidus needs to be acknowledged, and erased, in order for Raiden to move on, to become his own man.
“All I want is to be remembered. By other people, by history. The Patriots are trying to protect their power, their own interests, by controlling the digital flow of information. I want my memory, my existence to remain. Unlike an intron of history, I will be remembered as an exon.”
Solidus explains his true motivations for wanting to take out the Patriots and their system of control. Just as all living things exist to ensure the reproduction of their genetic code, their GENE, Solidus is trying to ensure the future of his MEME. This is why he’s making the comparison to genetic sequencing, he wants to be passed on as part of history’s collected memory.
Did Solidus fight for freedom? Or for himself? The truth is somewhere in the middle. Regardless, he ultimately fails at eliminating those who try to control society’s freedom. At the end of the game, Raiden defeats Solidus in battle atop Federal Hall. Solidus stumbles towards the ledge and throws himself off the roof, unable to accept his defeat. The Patriots have won, and their power would grow even more immense over the following years. As Snake puts it, witnessing the results: “Everything that Solidus feared five years ago, it’s all come to pass.”
IMO, he is the best villain Kojima has created in the MG saga.
I’m going even further. He is the best villain in the history of videogames. His quotes and anger is so amazing and maybe this has nothing to do with a writing or even his badass suit or Shinkawa art, boss battle. But the voice was just so amazing… John Cygan did incredible job with him.
In fact – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cygan he is not really known. This role was his best IMO. Kojima invite him again please. 😀
Yeah, John Cygan did a great job. It’s probably all of those things together that made him a great character.
I have a real soft spot for his design. It’s so damn good haha
Absolutely.
http://www.metalgearinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Metal-Gear-Solid-2-Sons-of-Liberty-Premium-Package-Book-Solidus.jpg
Haha
Yesss, Crimson.
He is so good. We need good villains in our games. Kojima need to deliver at the same level of awesome again with his next new game.
Where did you dissappear Carlo…Euh I mean Crimson Fox
Damn , I really need to stop with the weed
Been busy with a new job, my old job was basically in front of a computer. So I’m not on as much, but I do check the site a few times a day. I just hate typing on my phone.
Crimsonfox is watching us…
Cool to see you around !
Nice to be here 🙂
Welcome back to Mother Base ;D
Hell yasssssssssss
Solidus is my favorite villain in the entire saga.Objective,voice,dialogues,everything related to this character is amazing.He’s the reason I love MGS2 more than MGS3.I was expecting to see him in TPP.Even a little backstory was fine by me,but Kojima didn’t maneuver on the character unfortunately.
Thanks for the article,Boss.
I feel you, when they announced the child soldier theme and Africa location i was so sure that we would see Raiden and Solidus even if for a brief moment, maybe a platoon of child soldiers in the distance with Raiden among the ranks and Solidus making some speech.
Solidus was in the late 80s
*FACEPALM*
Yeah
” Brother, I’m a whole different game from Liquid ”
” I’ll let you go out in style! ”
” I’ll drown you fools for interfering! ”
He had some badass one liners as well. haha
Solidus Snake is a pretty crazy villain because he is one of the clones of Big Boss, who is also the president (George Sears) of USA and wears a ‘Doctor Octopus ‘ like exoskeleton suit. XD
Raiden: “So you’re the boss around here.”
Solidus: “Not just around here. I’m the boss to surpass Big Boss himself.”
and Solid : “No !! That is not Solid Snake !”
Lol, was just about to post this one (how come it’s not in your top-5 ?!)…
I verified first by searching the page for the word “surpass”, and without surprise, you added it here, hehe…
Cause there’s only room for 5. 😛
“The world has room for only one big boss !”
😀 You need a top-10 !
I guess he doesn’t write his own speeches?
*George Bush
Another great write up Nyx… Love reading these analyses/impression pieces.
The way everything just links into the main themes of the game and the franchise as a whole is purely masterful: it boggle my mind sometimes remembering that he essentially made the universe and canon up as he went along.
Now that Kojima intends to make a franchise from the inception of its initial outing, he can now plan out the canon and make the stories fit together in a way that surpasses MGS – this makes me so excited.
i simply love him.
“you’re the spitting image of big boss.
perhaps i should be thankful to this kid for that”
MASTERPIECE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJFlcba7x9Y
Solidus: FEDERAL HALL! HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE!!!11111111111111111111111111111
Raiden: What are you laughing at?
Solidus: (>_>)
What are YOU laughing at?
I just realised it’s April 30th today… Jeez, I’m slow. I get is now – you’re a very smart man Nyx 😛
Yep, Solidus died exactly 7 years ago.
RIP: https://youtu.be/nEU1Yliz59c?t=13
It’s also international jazz day but not relevant to MG
So , happy death anniversary Cyga…Big bo…..Euh I mean solidus
No “by the way Jack… I’m the one who killed your parents?” I’m disappointed, son…
Great as always, Nyx. Hi to everyone else! 🙂
Welcome back!
Thanks! But never left, really. I was always here, in the shadows, checking the site every day of the week.
I see… Well, good to have see you here in the comment section again.
Guess who’s back ? Back again?
Raymond’s back ! Tell a friend
What I liked is how Kojima portrayed his “Villains.” Liquid and Solidus had their motivations for doing what they thought was right, justifying the means to their ends. Theirs was a gray area of moral good whereas Solid Snake was more the clearer “good.” Its a matter of perspective
My favourite clone Snake. Wish we saw him in more games. And Cygan did an amazing job at voicing him, this pride and power in the voice makes me moist.
A personal favourite “If you have a death wish, I’ll be happy to accommodate you” in fact the entire scene in general is why I love the character
https://youtu.be/QMJF1d0eYGM
I don’t have memories of this character or the game. I played it like 8 years ago and I wasn’t interested in the story. Some time ago I tried to play the hd version but left it with one hour. In pc it doesn’t work. My only way to play it it’s with my ps2, and a friend have it.
Well you could watch a let’s play even though you won’t be able to experience this masterpiece
Thank you you made me desire even more for a MGS2 Fox engine remake… there’s not enough Solidus in this world… he needed to be a haunting voice inside raiden’s head during his Revengeance mental meltdowns (his voice appeared on promos if I remember well)
his face also appeared
He focused so much attention… Let’s leave him to Raiden, just to chase the Ray.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/af7a922618bf0f133de31dc3c68d15630b1167108815e06d030cac8a5948d39e.png
Here it is 🙂
Thx snipping tools lmao
Never forget…
I’m still having PTSD from the intense click bait and utter pointlessness of the content in that article.
We need The Patriots.
Yes, we need context…
“But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander… All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate.”
Gotta give it to them, they were right about that.
Kojima really nailed concept of social engineering – and the best part of MGS2 is that it shows video games are the only way such a concept can only be portrayed in such a digestible format. They’re tons of books about it, but they are all a slog to get through (at least for me).
Yeah, MGS2 does a terrific job in explaining the “noise” of communication in a simple but deep way.
I recommend reading “Propaganda” by Edward Bernays. The book was written in the 20s or 30s, and you can find a big parallelism between him and Kojima. Kojima dabbles in what a society looks like with the rise of social media and the ability of anyone to be able to create information anywhere, anytime, while Bernays (who is considered nowadays as the father of PR) basically predicts the rise of lobby and advertising corporations and how they as a whole form a “Shadow Goverment” unaware of their own existence but that affects everyone by molding people’s perspective around the facts and such, very much like The Patriots.
Propaganda
Us Bankers are controlling the world and we believe all the media tells us
Society has very much changed thanks to capitalism
Thanks. I will check that one out.
I mean who the fuck brings his gf in a hunting zone
How could you even get yourself shot in that scenario? Either the guy had terrible aim, she’s bullshitting the entire story, she carelessly ran into the open field with a bright yellow dress that camouflaged perfectly with the green foliage, she’s bullshitting the entire story, that guy hated women and wanted her dead so he tried to pre-emptively murder her with a bullet to the chest, or she’s bullshitting the entire story… I dunno.
Lollolololololol
Thr gug who wrote it needs to get kicked in the ass and sent to a journalism academy or some shit like that
BURN, BABY !
I love Solidus, such an amazing character. I wish we would see him more in the games :(.
Fantastic article to read Nyx, you always do these so well :D.
Off-topic:Anyone seen Call of Duty’s new teaser(s)?When I saw those teasers,Kojima automatically came to my mind.This is the way he uses to reveal his next project(s).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIxMNUOt0eU
He did much better then that. It’s not the first time they do this. They did something like this with MW3. Here you expect Call Of Duty…
But here…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7PfWfw1Xao
you still need to guess what it is. Although after few minutes Metal Gear fans already knew what it is thanks to the engine that is similar to Ground Zeroes reveal, Snake’s face.
That was nothing compared to this.phantom_pain.mme is the ultimate mind fuck,lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kKFp4_NCNQ
Morse code translation:”Generating image hold scenario loading hold activating phantom pain dot meme hold error error error error”
But that was fake.
Yup
I didn’t know.I thought it was real.But I gotta say,that was a pretty good fake.
I’m pretty sure treyarch copied mindfucking from our saviour and they don’t even do it as good
The most hilarious thing about PT was that it was one of of the most influential horror titles of the generation it was released in – and it wasn’t even a full game, it was a teaser. Oh Kojima…
http://i.imgur.com/t6XOeJN.gif
True. You are right about this. Not sure we will see something like PT for promotion again for the first Kojima’s title.
Kojima said that they are heavily invested for it’s new ip, because if they will fail they won’t have a future to speak of.
so marketing will be limited and will depend on the Sony’s budget. But Konami are idiots, PT was so well received and had streamers promoted the F out of it. Everyone knew about Silent Hills. Was great ;(
When fulton goes wrong.
Proper CNN material:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zgXIo2Fav2Y
Off Topic:Good news :Bf5 will be revealed this week and it might be ww2
Not so good but still okay news:Children game cock of doody IW is boots on the ground
Bad News: There’s a very huge chance both will suck so I’ll have to stick with arma and insurgency
I prefer COD going more batshit anime insane, it’s far better and less tiresome than the ludic fellatio of the military going on in most media – especially the Battlefield franchise. Black Ops 3 despite being a pretentious incomprehensible mess of a story, had some genuinely harrowing moments it depicts the moral ambiguity of the CIA and the PMC’s and terrorists it fights:
https://youtu.be/k4yhWpudBw8?t=341
I wanted stuff like this in MGSV: I didn’t want Kaz to just tell me over the phone we have a deal from a client – I wanted to see Venom and Kaz meet these clients, scummy and crocked people: insurgents, terrorists, governments. You see this happen all the time in gangster films – but rarely in regards to the military: I wanted to see the sit down with these people as Diamond Dogs negotiate money, supplies and whatnot – In Black Ops 3 there is a scene where the player brutally cuts off someone’s arm to just to use their finger prints to gain access to something that would complete their clients wishes and get them paid, I wanted to see Diamond Dog’s go to the depths of hell to fight cipher and build their army. I wanted to see the war economy, not have Kaz tell me it over the radio.
Black Ops 3 was a small and short game so it could really flesh out this aspect it was a very controversial move – depicting the CIA as a manipulative, underhanded apathetic entity that only cares about its own interests (“protecting” USA), everyone’s/everything else be dammed, all I can say is wow – I give them props for having the balls to show this side of the CIA and military politics with such detail. People give COD shit – say its stories are linear and doesn’t deserve to be a game, and that is somewhat true, but people often ignore what the stories are actually saying, and alot of the time it’s very poignant.
Tbh treyarch knows their shit unlike AW’s patriotic bullshit
Spacey’s quotes about the Us were true tho
Off-topic. I started a new game on MGSV:TPP. On the very first “Press start” screen showing the hospital bed. Does anyone see the shadow of a man sitting on the curtain?
(Spoilers)
If You look closely, he’s hunched over, and moving around just like in the ACC. I think that’s the original Big Boss! :O
(Sorry if this has already been pointed out before, I just thought it was really cool detail)
Interesting. Also, if you relisten some of the cassette tapes you can also see some hints in there.
Yeah, it’s BB. He’s just watching V come to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMha13rHS9g
Solidus is one of the main reasons Sons Of Liberty remains my favourite Metal Gear Solid game to date.
Off Topic: Cod finally has badass graphics
Mw4 remaster lighting is beautiful
I dont think will be good tho
Call of Duty: Infinity Warfare – at first I thought that it was a joke, but apparently that is actually the name… Apparently the game is just as real as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY
https://coubsecure-a.akamaihd.net/get/b86/p/coub/simple/cw_image/91ecf7017d3/a6728bc8671a85faabf56/med_1455945820_00028.jpg
Cod’s physics has always been shitty
Not just that – I found the whole trailer inherently cringe worthy – to the gameplay that they tried so hard to make not look scripted, to the dumb story, to the out of place music. Ew…
COd 4 looks amazing tho 🙂
But yeah Bowie for cod? DUH FUCKKKKKKKKKKK
Out of place music?
Never use space oddity if the game isn’t on mars
I actually thought the space battles moment were badass and even if this cod will be bullshit it’ll still be better than that shit called battlefront 3
I remember when I said that Japanese devs (most of them) are behind the West when it comes to gaming technology.
Now I know I was so wrong after watching this.
2D sprites as fire and low res textures. Last gen lighting… GGWP.
CoD makes more money than god, so why this?
You weren’t entirely wrong in your previous statements – Most western games these days look great (visually), Call of Duty has never had the best graphics. Call of Duty has never had the best of anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkg5UVTsKCE
“Cod NEVER”
If by never you mean since 2011/2012 you’re right
If by never you mean never well let me ask you questions.
Which fps game attracted tons of clones and rendered the modern fps popular?
Not resistance
Killzone was future
Influential; yes – I never said the games didn’t have any impact on the gaming industry, I just think the games aren’t anything too special in terms of gameplay, graphics, sound, story, music etc etc.
Twilight was very popular and influential – does this mean it’s a good book series/film?
Influential?
If by influential you mean farting on hollywood then yes
Bad comparison m8
I think it did shit on the gaming industry – it popularized run and gun combat in multiplayer opposed to tactical team based combat, scripted set pieces over emergent system based gameplay, 5 hour single player campaigns, DLC, pre-order bonuses, annual game releases, abandonment of dedicated servers on PC, CoD kids, the list goes on.
Keep in mind, the first FPS I ever played was MW1 (I never played the single player, up until today): I was a CoD kid who would get home after school and shout at people I never met as I got killed in the match.
Oh shit
“Call of Duty has never had the best of anything.”
That’s the problem with that statement. CoD makes more money than God. With this you can think that they can use better technology. When I’m talking about technology. It’s not just graphics. It’s about physics, AI capabilities and other interesting things that help make games better.
Horizon won’t be a masterpiece or overhyped game this year. It’s going to be mediocre or a good start for a Next Gen ip. Guerrilla games always had amazing technology. With Horizon, they have Emergent AI (much better than MGSV in terms of interactivity and situations). Great visuals, impressive post processing, good stealth mechanics and so on. Horizon will have a good story if not great, because they hired a writer from Fallout:New Vegas.
About gameplay, can’t say much. Guerrilla games makes good action but their level design, story structure and everything else was mediocre in the past.
I don’t blame them for not advancing CoD, as a company; they found a way to make a shit ton of money while doing far less than the rest of the competition – CoD is every businessman’s dream product.
If they focus on combining emergent storytelling with a pre-scripted one, and it does this exceptionally – I think it will be a masterpiece. Many games try and fail at combing these: I think this is where MGSV stumbled, I think the gameplay could of been even better; offering even more gameplay options if it had even less story than it had, or it could of had a better story if it was more scripted and focused – I think balancing these was not in line with Kojima’s strengths as a dev (given the time and money they gave him), and he knows this and is opting for a smaller more focused game this time around.
The only game that effectively combined these two concepts was the original Deus Ex: entire plot arcs could change based on your actual actions and interactions with the emergent systems – your actions in gameplay dictated the pre-scripted story, not arbitrary dialogue choices.
If Zero Horizon excels at this then it will truly be an exceptional game – I doubt they will exceed at this though, even Kojima failed at it, it’s a hard concept to balance without next to infinite time, money and resources.
Cod makes more money than god?
Da fuck does that mean?
Churches make trillions of dollars and they ain’t even taxed.
I’d rather let churches die than cock of doody
And tbh it is a good thing of humans make more money than a fictional character
As I said cod is always late to the party
Last gen lighting?
Are you talking bout cod 4 or IW man?
Battlefront had breath taking graphics and we all know it sucked
But honestly this cod will only sell thx to cod 4
Iw doesn’t even look that good tbh
Ah now I get it!
Well the engine is based on quake engine
Yeah. That is true, but I think since Advanced Warfare they changed the engine, no?
Id Tech 3 core was so bad in CoD games. But I agree that CoD sells because of CoD4 and PR mostly.
Yeah
What do you think of this remaster ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAsNNRVY6mQ
It’s just MW1… With better graphics.
If I really wanted to play MW1 right now I would just buy it on PC for real cheap.
Yeah
But the campaign was much better than campaigns after mw3 except bo2 (Goyer ftw)
But yeah run n gun is why arma kicks cod’s ass
Even rainbow six siege does
Bf is not good tho
But mw’s servers are fucking hacked to death
https://j.gifs.com/mZ6oRE.gif
That look of Kojima looking at his last game MGSV is so warm <3
I was waiting for this gif to be made.
You’re welcome :3
Big Boss was watching him…
Man if I was the player and figured out on Youtube that Hideo was watching me playing V without me noticing it, I would have slapped my face hard… xD
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11887167_1670310306524526_1702690847_n.jpg
Off Topic: DICE never made good games since 2011
Same goes for Infinity Ward
Arma III ftw
Nice article Nyxus!
On other gaming topic,we are nearing Uncharted 4 review and release date! ^^
I know a couple of people here are excited about it,so i really hope you guys will keep clear from spoilers.
Be prepared,i know i will! https://38.media.tumblr.com/d7e8168db5a961b6449f4ac1fadd6db1/tumblr_njzslrOYEV1qz6z2wo1_400.gif
Wdiowwwhvvvhxvvoheexhhivddddxjjiriioroocooc whodwjjbdddjoqooojq
Sorry, just the excitement of a vux gif
It happens to the best of us 🙂
You’re like Kiefer Snake – he doesn’t talk much, but the pure awesomeness of what comes out of his mouth causes everyone to shut up and listen.
You’re doing God’s work with those gif’s 😛
Vux Gif apprentice ready = Yes… ma Masta
http://66.media.tumblr.com/565049574354577ea7d10944f23d68ce/tumblr_no0gb31Ifg1sx2peuo1_500.gif
And if some manage to sneak through, we will kindly remind them the rules around there :
http://i.imgur.com/fbgFRvy.gif
Good,good…. https://i.imgflip.com/13r9uh.gif
The GIF is strong in this one, Lord Gifious…
“Once more the Gifs will rule the galaxy, and we shall have… peace…”
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxk4odcQs11r98lguo1_500.gif…
The Master & the apprentice (I love this picture):
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/6e/Vader_Sidious.png/revision/latest?cb=20130205215534
The apprentice when the Master is not watching him :
http://49.media.tumblr.com/96ef8fa4fb6ae13d3c3243c3e3d5a56f/tumblr_nzhs0ggUJd1r5380io1_500.gif
And may the GIF be with you… Always
I’ll let you go out in style!