Kojima and Shinkawa react to Metal Gear Survive

During the PlayStation TGS stage event, where Hideo Kojima and Yoji Shinkawa held a Q&A session, someone asked about Metal Gear Survive. Is it something Kojima had come up with before before leaving Konami, as some rumors have suggested? Not at all, according to Kojima.

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Via the official Japanese Kojima Productions Twitter (translated by Siliconera): “I’m not involved at all, and I don’t know anything about it. Personally speaking, Metal Gear Solid is espionage to me, political fiction. I don’t think zombies would appear in such a world.”

Shinkawa added: “I never heard anything about that from [Kojima]. Personally, I consider Metal [Gears] to be bipedal weapons. I wonder if they’ll appear.” Kojima: “A Metal Gear without a Metal [Gear]? That’s the Famicom version lol.”

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Source: Kojima Productions Twitter JapanGematsu, Siliconera

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    Hahahaha! It appears Konami new game is not as cool as konami thinks 🙂

    • Pretty sure they just want to milk money for a new project

  • Incredible! Good job Kojima.

    Konami U MAD?

  • Full Options

    “A Metal Gear without a Metal [Gear]?” :DD
    I am sure they’ll put at least something, I just hope we won’t end up with something like this… xD

    http://www.gearfuse.com/wp-content/uploads/andrew/1_dec06/Mechanoid_Robot_1.jpg

    • I will rocket punch them in the face if they won’t put Metal Gear ZEKE there.
      If they will use Sahelanthropus assets, then all hope for humanity will be lost.

      • Full Options

        Yeah, should be ZEKE. They can be really nuts when they want, but using Saly would be like completely retard move. Top ROFL if they use it.

        • Mr.Pony

          Either ZEKE or they’ll just import the Sahelanthropus model

          • Full Options

            Would be really stupid from them to do so. Sahel will be created only nine years after, and judging how high the soldiers are looking at, it looks barely half smaller than Sahel. Could probably be a ZEKE.

          • Janeo

            I think they will just go with Sahel, no way they want to build zeke or any other metal gear on the fox engine so most likely just sal with maybe a few changes. They do have a lot of time before the game comes so hopefully they out in the extra effort and get a few more metal gears in there

          • Full Options

            “I think they will just go with Sahel” that would be so cheap… Although, they can be that cheap…

          • Mr.Pony

            It will be Zombie Sahel! Just painted red with a horn

          • Mr.Pony

            Wormholes son! I’m not seeing them recreate Zeke or any other Metal Gear, when they have one that already works. Just throw logic out the window

        • JJBYACHFullOptions2FucKonami

          I’m 90% sure they’ll just reuse Saly – I have 0 faith in Konami to do anything right.

          • Full Options

            I am perhaps wrong, but believe they won’t do this heavy mistake. An UTD version of ZEKE is not that hard to shape after all. If they do so, they’ll have hella explanations to provide such as a wormhole that does not only teleport, but let travel through time. Shago village seems kind of older / abandoned though… Then maybe a Saly if they are in the future then… I want to find my beloved Brennan somewhere if so, instead of using this MF bow or shotgun… xD

    • Lamp123

      Yoji Shinkawa’s response was interesting. Will Metal Gear Survive have bipedal weapons/Metal Gear in the game??

    • The trailer did end with a hint at a new Metal Gear (at least, something big was approaching).

      • Full Options

        Yeah, I noticed it on gamescom’s trailer. And it is definitely sounding bipedal. Like Golg said, should be a MSF moba’s ZEKE controled by the enemy or something.

        • Or maybe even by an AI, like the ones in Peace Walker had.

          • Full Options

            Mmm… Yeah, would be cool to deactivate some kind of AI pod from the inside like in PW. Could indeed definitely be a pod ! ;D

        • Lex Radu

          It also sounds exactly like the ending of the DS Trailer, so idk!

      • Zombie Sahelanthropus

    • Nekkedsnake

      maybe it’ll be some weird mech thing like MGRR had. That thing looked like a gigantic robotic ant.

  • Janeo

    He doesn’t think zombies would appear in such a world but they also have many crazy things in most of the games he did, they had soldiers act pretty much like zombies in metal gear solid 4 and 5 and also crazier things than zombies. Seems a little hypocritical to me, like he can have whatever he wants in the games and it makes sense but now that konami have something crazy it doesn’t make sense.

    • When he puts something crazy in Metal Gear, at least it makes sense in the context of the story, that seems to be what he’s talking about. In Survive, everything is explained with ‘they’re sucked through a wormhole’, without explaining why and how. That is not like the other Metal Gear games.

      • Janeo

        Yeah but this is also a spin off and not even a full game, plus we don’t know if it will be explained or how they will explain it, I doubt it will be a long detailed explanation but in the end this is a spin off that isn’t meant to be taken too seriously so I don’t think it’s wrong of them to put zombies in.

        • True, but Kojima was asked and he simply answered based on what he had seen so far.

          • Janeo

            And it’s his series so he can say whatever he wants but I don’t really agree with what he is trying to get across.

          • You don’t think it looks pretty ‘un-Metal Gear’, all things considered? Which isn’t a big deal anyway, since it’s just a spin-off.

          • Janeo

            It has pretty much exactly the same gameplay as phantom pain so it looks like metal gear in that way but yeah everything else is quite unusual for the series but I don’t mind that so far.

          • Lex Radu

            It looks Metal Gear to me, more exactly, MG:SW Expansion “Sorrow World” to me, aka Underwater Purgatory!

          • Full Options

            It is possible he is a bit upset with the result. I am not too disappointed with what we saw but far to be satisfied as well.
            Maybe he is mocking them a bit, like saying : “come on, guys that’s all you have so far ? try a bit harder when playing with my baby please”… Maybe..

          • Janeo

            I agree he is probably enjoying pushing their buttons a little, it will always be his series so I guess he can say whatever he wants about how they are handling it

        • Nekkedsnake

          Guys, just think of it this way; Survive is really just the same as Resident Evil Umbrella Corp or Operation Raccoon City. It’s all just spin-offs in the RE or MG world only without the main characters or main story. I bought ORC at a bargain bin for about $5 recently and will probably do the same with UC. And honestly I will probably only purchase Survive the same way, on sale or bargain bin. Survive just doesn’t seem interesting enough for me to warrant buying at full price.

          • No Place For Hayter

            And this is exactly how it should have been marketed. As a large expansion to the base game.

          • Lex Radu

            That was a great expansion, what are you talking about?

          • Lex Radu

            Except it looks waaaaaaaay better than both of these, so it might end up being a “Read Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare” there is potential to solve some of the plot holes of MGSV, like the “Wondering MSF Soldiers” how did they survive, why are the f**ed up…THIS IS WHY!

      • Lex Radu

        It;’s still an explanation, other games would not bother to give even THAT, so once again, Credit where Credit is due!

    • Lamp123

      Well he was asked this question by the interviewer. The question was whether the zombie concept/Metal Gear Survive was his idea. He said no, and explains why. Doesn’t sound like he is taking pot shots at Konami to me ….

      Also it seems like Kojima doesn’t know it is a spin off game?? I’m pretty sure Kojima doesn’t follow current Metal Gear news closely like us fans because he is busy with Death Stranding and building up his company. So he doesn’t know everything about Metal Gear Survive (probably only saw the trailer/demo).

      • Nekkedsnake

        honestly i think Kojima is just being polite about the question but he probably could give to solitary shits about what kocknami is doing to his series. as much as he probably hates the hack job that’s been happening to MGS it’s out of his hands. kocknami will probably drag MGS to the ground before releasing any sort of rights to anyone else to do Metal Gear any proper justice. It’ll take a miracle if somehow MGS winds back in Kojima’s hands one day.

    • Lex Radu

      Yeah, we all knew Kojima can sometime be a Hypocrite, but that’s why we love him, he knows how to play us like a damn fiddle!

  • But do you remember that Gray Fox zombie game that Koji wanted?

    Looks like he’s trying to fool us again – That’s what I think at least

    • Look, even MGSV had Puppets which were not technically zombies but looked like that.
      I think he mean that he could make a game with Gray Fox where enemies would look like zombies.

      Undead creatures from the Walking Dead – Zombies
      Puppets in MGSV – Are infected soldiers that can be healed, so technically not Zombies.

      • Yeah I know, Gray Fox game would’ve been a hack’n’slash game anyway – So huge difference.

      • Icosikaidigon

        Metal Gear games have had zombie-like enemies before; but by definition, neither major instances that I can think of were zombies.

        One was an instance of parasitic control, the other the result of people going crazy from the resurgence of repressed memories. That is, there have been no “undead” in MGS. And thay have never been the main focus either.

        • Lex Radu

          *they

    • JJBYACHFullOptions2FucKonami

      Kojima does like trolling, but I think this is just a little bit above his pay grade 😛

      • Still, trolling or not, gotta love that mad man 😀

      • Lex Radu

        Nah, nah, Mobydick Studios was just the “Ground Zeroes” for his grand scheme, you really don’t know who we are dealing with here, it’s Hideo “Ruse Cruise” Kojima we are talking about!

  • James Raskalov

    This news makes me happy.

    • LeGuy(CertifiedPIS)

      So metal gear survive MAKES U HAPPY?
      DAMNNNNNN SONNNNN

      • James Raskalov

        No, Kojima “calling out it’s premise” makes me happy.

  • Lucas Ferreira

    Kojigod

  • Nekkedsnake

    “Famicom version lol” hahaha XD

    • No Place For Hayter

      I played and finished that version too, lol.

  • We keep calling these creatures Zombies, but does Konami call ’em like that?
    If not, then they are techically not zombies, right?

    That aside, could you people list all the female names that were mentioned in previous threads?
    If I recall correctly those were supposed to be possible female characters for DS.

  • Guys, what actresses you want in the female cast for DEATH STRANDING? I said a lot about actresses from The Neon demon, but I would love if Felicity Jones can join the cast. Which is IMPOSSIBLE anyway. She is in the new Star Wars: Rogue One main character btw.
    It’s impossible for her to be in DS, because she would cost a LOT of money to begin with. Like a lot.
    So I guess Kojima will use Stephanie or maybe someone from The Neon Demon which is not bad at all. It all comes to the money and friendship in the end.

    http://withoutmakeup.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Felicity-Jones-Makeup.jpg

  • Lex Radu

    Correct me if i’m wrong, but didn’t Kojima said the EXACT SAME WORDS “I have nothing to do with it” about “The Phantom Pain” being a Metal Gear Game, before revealing at TGS 2013 that TPP is part of MGSV?

    Have we really forgot who are we dealing with, have we forgot who Joakim Mogren…i mean Hideo Kojima is, CEO of Mobydick Studios…Director of Kojima Productions is?

    Now for real, why are we acting as if “The Ruse” would be something new it’s way beyond me!

    • But that was before Kojima left Konami.

      • Lex Radu

        Now, did he?

        • LeGuy(CertifiedPIS)

          No he didn’t. Konami sent him to hell with the help of a flying unicorn
          And Kojima eventually got sent back to the beginning of the universe and created the big bang

          • Lex Radu

            Transported through a Wormhole in his own Development Studio!

        • Yes he did. 🙂

    • Full Options

      This time Konami was booo’d publicly and world wide. For Japaneses, the worst disgrace is the shame, and even the slightest one.

      Geoff killing Konami at TGA, pointing at legal concerns preventing Hideo to attend (lawyers and stuff like that has nothing to do with gaming / entertainment) or Guillermo re-tweeting a coffin as the E3’s Konami’s booth…

      This time it was not Hideo just trolling around but a real and quite violent war happened, there was a lot of real damages that have nothing to deal with previous Koji-pranks. People do not change their careers like that, Merceron was ready to work with Hideo on next MGS’s but had to leave for Namco since it was Boss that got him in..
      The split impacted many developers lives there (notably KP LA..) that had to leave and find another studio.

      There are ton of other elements, you also do not re-brand studios, facilities or box-art like that without quite substantial costs.
      I am afraid that we are far from a ruse buddy, it was a real massacre.

    • LeGuy(CertifiedPIS)

      You need spectacles

      • That might be true actually :b

    • Lex Radu

      Wanted to see the Replies, but yeah, i forgot David Hayter blocked me on Twitter!

      • Nothing interesting other than a good vs evil comment

        • Lex Radu

          So, isn’t this a hint at him being involved in Stephen King’s Movie?

          • I dunno about that stuff

          • Lex Radu

            Captain Trips is a Stephen King created character, as far as i know!

      • LeGuy(CertifiedPIS)

        So much for wanting Hugh Jackman
        *puts on glasses*

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    I still read new comments about what Hideo said.
    ”I don’t think zombies would appear in such a world.”
    Everyone is saying that more stupid things appeard in his game than zombies. Like Vampires.
    But I think they kinda dont understand what Kojima tried to say.
    I think He tried to say that He would never make a Metal Gear game where zombies would be the story.
    What do You think guys?

    • In my eyes the story isn’t about those creatures.
      It’s about the lost soldiers and this alternate dimension.

      I know that those creatures will end up being the main focus in this game.

      Is wormhole-technology used in any other MG title? I don’t remember.

      • Lex Radu

        Well, Raiden did Travel back in time, so maybe SurVive will explain things like that.

        Maybe the “Survive World” is Metal Gear’s “Speed Force”, the source of the powers of all the Metahumans in the Metal Gear Lore.

        • Raiden is the one who attacked MB – Didn’t get enough watermelons

      • Lex Radu

        This actually opens endless possibilities for the future of this Franchise, allowing multiple Development Studios make unique Metal Gear games as parallel universes, and eventually having them cross over!

      • ADAMJENSEN13

        Yeah, yeah. Thats for sure. Story looks like it will be about those guys who were sucked in wormhole.
        But they will be fighting only zombies.
        So story is kinda about zombies, right?

        • Weren’t we told that those creatures are only one of the few enemies?

          I mean, I’m expecting that we get to fight enemy soldiers too

          • ADAMJENSEN13

            There was news like that?

            I dont know cuz I dont read about this game. Sorry then! 🙂

          • I’m not sure about this myself, but I think I read or heard something like that

          • ADAMJENSEN13

            Maybe Youre right. That would be really nice. When I saw those creatures I was thinking they will be only enemies.
            So if there will be other creatures that would be not bad. 🙂

    • Lex Radu

      It actually does’t seem that they are the Story in SurVive either, like The Walking Dead, they are the background enemies!

      • ADAMJENSEN13

        I wanted to say that they are the only enemies You are fighting.
        Not like in other MGS where boss is only strange with strange powers.
        There is normal stealth with normal soldiers.
        Not only zombies enemies.
        I wanted to say something like that.

        • Lex Radu

          I don’t think they are the only enemies, there’s gotta be a Boss Fight, a bigger Enemy, maybe the Villain that opened the portal in the first place, maybe this will mark the Return of The Sorrow!

          • ADAMJENSEN13

            Oh!
            I never think in that way. Youre right. There must be some bosses, right? Like that scream on trailer in last scene.
            Thats for sure Metal Gear.

      • ADAMJENSEN13

        And I forgot to write that this game is only spin off so no one should really get mad at this, right? 🙂

        • They will get mad because it is a “zombie survival game” made by Konami

          • ADAMJENSEN13

            Hahahaha!

    • Vamp is not a vampire. He has vampire-like attributes but he is not a vampire.
      MGS4 explains that pretty much.

      Classic zombies can’t be here for a reason. They can be if they are working in synerdy with some kind of technology, but Kojima would never focus on them.
      Besides, Puppets from MGSV side-ops are only in side-ops area which is important point in this discussion.

      • ADAMJENSEN13

        “Classic zombies can’t be here for a reason. They can be if they are
        working in synerdy with some kind of technology, but Kojima would never
        focus on them.”
        And that is the thing I was trying to say! Kojima would never focus on zombies to make them the priority in the game.

      • Yeah, even in MGS2 it was explained that Vamp wasn’t really a vampire.

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    MGZ! Metal Gear Zombies! The new clone is made to fight with zombies!
    The ZOMBIE SNAKE!

    • Lex Radu

      You mean Liquid’s Corpse?

      • LeGuy(CertifiedPIS)

        You mean those wack theories some guy’s been writing on Twitter ?

      • ADAMJENSEN13

        Haha! That would be funny!

        Metal Gear Zombie: Liquid strikes back!
        But finally we would get game with Liquid as a lead character 🙂

  • Danny Patten

    Well, it’s no longer Kojimas baby. Kojima concluded it with TTP. everything that comes afterwards wants to leech off of it’s brand name. Nothing more nothing less.

    • Lex Radu

      One of the things TPP though me, is that Revenge is and Endless and Pointless cycle, so why are we doing this, why are we following the Revenge path?

      We are Diamond Dogs, not XOF, come on!

      • Venom didn’t want revenge, Kaz did.

    • LeGuy(CertifiedPIS)

      Ah
      Where were you when……
      Oh forget it

  • Gatsu

    Of course it wasn’t their idea to do this.

  • Koji and Shinkawa dismantling BS, as per usual.

  • BurntFM

    Wow. That’s just lazy.

    • Tom Brearley-Smith

      Huh. This reminds me of how from the map of ‘Far Cry: Primal’ was virtually a copy of the map from ‘Far Cry 4’. On another note…
      “It’s like poetry. So that they rhyme.” – George Lucas

      • BurntFM

        Konami: “Zombies are the key to all of this.”

        • Tom Brearley-Smith

          “If we get the zombies working. Because they are deeper characters than we’ve ever had before in any of the games.”

    • BurntFM

      This is how stupid Konami’s logic is. The Mother Base that was destroyed in Ground Zeroes and where the trailer that showed MSF soldiers getting sucked up in the wormhole was in the Caribbean. What the fucking hell, alternate dimension or not does the mother base wreckage have to do in Afghanistan? Not just Afghanistan, but Afghanistan 9 years in the future. Because that’s the point of having those bases, the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan that started in 1979 and Ground Zeroes incident happened in 1975. Shouldn’t the alternate dimension happen in the same year? Or these characters having MGO costumes? It’s as lazy as a Movie tie-in game that was rushed for release.

  • Aleezy

    I’m mad how they’re in Afghanistan.. at least be in a whole new area. Hopefully they will in the future.

    • Full Options

      How lucky they are to be able to watch those cut-scenes with such level of rendering quality… Do they only realize that ? ;D

    • Beyond fucked if they don’t give the fans a proper remake.

  • JC denton

    >I don’t think zombies would appear in such a world

    Oh, because MGS:V TPP totally didn’t have zombies of any sort.

  • Biggy

    EVERYONE! There is a new video of Hideo Kojima’s reaction:

    https://youtu.be/yxOEvMTZKf8

  • Crispy Jay

    It’s difficult to rate. Im sure I read 99% of these comments when revengeance came out and that turned out to be decent, if a bit removed from the main story line. It may be that it has some bizzare twist in store where they ‘were on earth all along’ (Ape style). Teleporting isn’t totally out of the question, and I think you’ll find Zombie-esc characters in MGSPP about a third of the way through. Maybe could be some form of infection or virus?? Pretty sure the parasite people had intense growths. I’d say give it a chance. Probably going to be $25 anyways

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