Metal Gear Solid movie director would like to include Gray Fox and fourth wall breaking

In an interview with IGN, Jordan Vogt-Roberts talked about his plans for the Metal Gear Solid movie. Previously he already mentioned that he wanted to do the series justice and hit the right tone that is so characteristic of the franchise.

On what characters he would like to include, Vogt-Roberts said:

“I mean, I’m a big Sniper Wolf fan, and when we were sitting down to think about the script at a certain point it was like, ‘is Cyborg Ninja in this movie or not?’ and the part of me that was a little kid was like, ‘there’s no world in which I’m ever going to make a Metal Gear movie that Cyborg Ninja is not going to be in.’ It’s really easy to be like, ‘it’s a good character to save for the second one,’ but no, no, no.”

Another thing Metal Gear is known for are its fourth wall breaking moments, such as Psycho Mantis reading your memory card or checking the game case for Meryl’s CODEC frequency.

“I actually do think that considering breaking the fourth wall is an important part of potentially what that movie would be. Finding a way to do that in an interesting way, I think things like Deadpool have actually shown that you can play with that concept these days.”

However, for Vogt-Roberts the philosophies expressed by the various characters are a more significant aspect of the series.

“To me, the fourth wall breaking is a little less important than the walking philosophies and ideologies those characters represent, and getting that right and the tone right and things like that. If breaking the fourth wall makes sense, I’m all for it, I’m more interested in the ‘Kojima conversations’ about whatever song came out then or whatever – it’s that stuff that it just absolutely needs.”

On another note, Vogt-Roberts recent movie Kong: Skull Island contains a Metal Gear easter egg in the form of a ship that’s called ‘Gray Fox’, after the fan favorite Metal Gear character. Kojima himself already saw the movie and called Vogt-Roberts a ‘genius’, so at least he has the approval of the creator himself.

Source: IGN

  • moto hellogoto

    If you could choose anyone, who would you choose to play Solid Snake?

      • Mr.Pony

        Chapter 3 confirmed!

    • Gatsu


    • Tom Brearley-Smith

      … You’re that ninja.

  • On the subject of film makers, this is pretty cool.

    • Gatsu

      Awesome :O…

  • Johnno

    This is the sort of thing I’m worried about with jumping straight into MGS1 as the first Metal Gear movie rather than starting with the MSX games.

    The history between Gray Fox, Naomi and Snake will over convolute an already dense story that should focus more on Solid and Liquid.

    So either we end up with an overconvoluted movie, or a lot of things will be cut – either ignored completely, or we’re given open allusions for some hypothetical sequel/prequel or put in only for fans to fill in leaving the rest of the audience confused. This does not make for a satisfying film, it will only bog it down.

    Please Vogt, put Shadow Moses on the back burner, start by adapting MG and MG2 from MSX. And bring some of the stuff from MGS1 and other games and establish those relationships there. Give Fox a bigger role in MG and MG2, so that his appearance in Shadow Moses as a 3rd film is more meaningful. The same for Snake’s relationship to Big Boss. Let the revelation that Snake is his clone occur before the Climax of MG2 as part of the hero’s dilemma. All this will set up the Shadow Moses incident as the final part of the trilogy.

    Also I’d leave the 4th wall stuff out of the movie. It works for Deadpool because it’s an action comedy. If you want to do homages like that, shoot special scenes that are only for the trailers/marketing.

    • Gatsu

      I don’t think there is going to be more than one movie. So in that way I think MGS1 is good to adapt the movie from. Not sure how well they can add the characters though, but movies are always somehow different. The huge amount of dialogue in MGS1 might help with the writing.

      • Eugene Voldo

        >The huge amount of dialogue in MGS1

        To be fair, majority of dialogues in MGS1 were not-so-subtle exposition dumps where Snake only asks some stupid questions like “Why?”, “Who is this guy?” or trademarked “Huh?”. Some dialogues can be reused in the movie, but only if they plan to shoot cheesy action-orientated film.

      • Johnno

        It’s unlikely the studio doesn’t intend on making a franchise effort. I’m sure it’s the same deal as Silent Hill.

        The money the first film makes will be crucial, and given how these negotiations go, it’s likely the studio is being stingy with the budget. And I’d hate to see an underbudgeted adaptation of Mgs1.

        If the creators are smart, pitching MG1 first as a cheaper stealth action title would be beneficial. The studio will allow more creative freedom for a smaller budgeted affair. A simple action film that establishes Solid Snake as the main draw for subsequent films. If the first one does well financially, which at a lower budget it should, then bargaining for a higher budget for sequels will be an easier sell. This should build up to Mgs1.

        That’s why trying to do Mgs1 now where there is too much backstory and characters to cover alongside a studio reluctant to give a big budget to the first film in a video game franchise in a climate where these films typicaly haven’t done well, will be detrimental to the final product.

        They ought to start with the first MSX game with a style like Rambo/Die Hard. Then up the ante with MG2. Then go all in with MGS1 as the big budget end of a trilogy.

    • Nadine Roche

      I think they go the Star Wars way and therefore it makes sense to start with Metal Gear Solid. They start right in the middle.

      Compared to the other Games it is probably more easy to get out as
      a Blockbuster, because it had fast pacing (if you leave out all the
      backtracking), iconic designs and great action scenes. Besides that:
      most people didn’t play the MSX games back than
      and where still excited enough.

      And the 4th wall breaking…
      thats indeed difficult, because it carried the idea of being controlled by another person on the next level and in MGS2 it made me feel
      uncomfortable. It is one of the main reasons why these Games are outstanding. I dont know how they will mange to achive it in a non-interactive medium…They must find a way to really attack the audience…or else it is just a joke.

      Personally…I would loved to see them start with MGS3 or…go further back to The Boss! That would answer at least some question marks…

      Its a pitty that we didn’t get more Audio-Dramas like
      “Heiwa to Kazuhira no Blues”…that was sooooooo cool…

  • Full Options
  • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet
  • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet
    • But they are not really that positive. They are mixed at best.

      • Movie ratings are different from gaming ratings on Metacritic though. That rating is considered ‘Generally favorable’.

        • Movie ratings are the same as with videogames. The difference is that Movie journalism is more matured over these years to actually put low scores to the movies.
          If you will look at the overall meta score among movies like Get Out/Logan/Raw/Personal Shopper it is lower than these movies. Reviews are generally mixed and better not to look at the scores, but at the reviews themselves and what reviews actually say about the film.

          Not to mention that the movie is not out. The majority of the press is on the embargo.

          • Yeah but a game rated 61 would be considered mixed or average (and marked yellow). Example:

            But this movie is marked green, and ‘positive’. So a 61 for a movie has a different meaning than for a game, in a sense.

            That said, Kong island isn’t rated as some masterpiece (though Kojima seems to like it at least).

          • Lex Radu

            For Movies Rotten tomatoes is more trust worthy

            It’s 80%, it’s fresh, around the same score as “Rogue One”

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Rt is misleading

          • Lex Radu

            Sometimes, i don’t think is the case here though, i mean, Kojima personaly liked the Movie, and likes Jordan’s Directing style!

            Kojima said that in Kong Jordan shows how Brillians he is as a Director!

          • Lex Radu

            It looks like the problems are with the script, and some of the green screen stuff, and the Directing and Acting are on point!

            I have a feeling that Jordan’s only goal with this Movie was to impress Kojima, and looks like he did, Kojima recomends it.

            Now if Kojima likes that Jordan will Director Metal Gear, if Kojima trusts him, why shouldn’t we?

      • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

        60 > Mixed reviews

      • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

        Also I just watched BvS and I don’t remember any scenes of Bryce Wayne running through Michael Bay explosions
        Thanks for making me watch a 3 hour mess just for scenes that never existed 😉

    • I usually don’t watch/read reviews. However, this time I was curious as to how this movie was being rated. Sure there are positive reviews out there but also negative ones. Now, the ONE review I watched was basically saying that nothing other than the fighting scenes were good. And I think that is really bad for the upcoming Metal Gear Movie.
      Though, I’m not someone who criticizes movies too much, so I’d most probably enjoy watching the new King Kong movie and the Metal Gear Movie anyway, even if it turned out to be pretty bad in the eyes of many other people.

      • But you should also keep in mind this is a monster movie, it isn’t meant to be as deep as Metal Gear. The tone for Metal Gear would probably be very different.

        • I know, I didn’t really expect a great movie outside of the fighting scenes. That’s why I said I’d like it despite the negative reviews concerning the characters and all that other stuff.
          However, I don’t see why Kojima calls Vogt Roberts a genius when this is a simple monster movie, unless I have to watch it for myself to understand it :b

        • radun

          Yeah, but look at the previous King Kong. It had a certain “something” underneath the surface story.
          I haven’t seen this one, so, it may very well be an artistic achievement.

      • Gatsu

        This one review you watched is also only opinion of one person in the end. That doesnt mean he is really right about it.

        Kojima is a long time fan of monster movies like Godzilla, so he recognizes a genius aka Jordan and his movie ;).

        • Kojima also enjoyed Twilight –

          I mean, he likes movies.. almost all of them as an art form and he likes to see what other people like. He is a huge fan of movies but that does not make anything at this point.

          One review he watched is from a person he actually trusts. I watched one review from a guy that I trust:

          and I will watch it only on Blu-ray for sure, but if that is what happened in the movie than it’s not great IMO. Brie Larson that only makes photos for the entire movie, really?

          • Gatsu

            I don’t really watch movie reviews anymore, maybe I sometimes read one or two.

            I just like to go see a movie if I like the trailers and this way I know for sure how good the movie is.

          • radun

            The books were good (which Koijima enjoyed). They didn’t start such a phenomenon for nothing. The movies however were mostly carried by the hype of the moment.

          • I watched the same review.

      • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

        No that is not bad for the metal gear movie
        Do some research before hating on other directors

        • How am I hating on the director?

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            I may have exaggerated but how can you be so sure the mgs movie will suck without watching the film? But then Sony is worse than warner Bros but the director has a great track record.But then so did the director of AC 🙁

  • Mr.Pony

    [off-topic] Have you guys seen the gameplay for Shadow of War? I wasn’t that into the first one, mainly played because it was Tolkien stuff, but this one looks so epic right now, you can ride a drake for Tolkien’s sake!

    • Lex Radu

      Yeah, riding that Dragon though! Holly Rings of…the lords!

    • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet


  • Stanislav Yakimov

    I hope they don’t make the same stupid shit like a “Silent Hill The Movie”. Filmed by a fan too.
    MGS story without Kojima it’s a profanation and filthy dancing on a sacred.

    • NegaScott128

      Ultimately, it doesn’t matter if they’re a fan or not. What matters is whether or not the filmmaker can adapt the story in a way that is both satisfying for those who haven’t played the games and respectful enough of the source material not to upset the fans. It’s a tough balancing act. Change too much, and you alienate the fanbase; change too little, and you could alienate a general audience. The SH movies got it wrong on both counts, since the first one has barely anything to do with the series outside of the visuals and basic premise, and the second one tried to be a sequel to the first movie while also steering closer to the games, and ended convoluted and confusing even for fans.

      You need someone who understands and respects the source material, but isn’t afraid to make changes that are necessary for the story to work as a film. For example, when Project Itoh adapted MGS4 into a novel, he removed the B&Bs entirely. He realized they didn’t actually affect the plot, so he removed them so the story would be more streamlined. Roberts seems to be struggling with this idea, but hopefully he finds a way to make it all work.

      • radun

        Project Itoh was the one guy that said that MGS2 is much more than meets the eye, when everybody else, and i mean EVERYBODY else was preocupied with 2 things: “Raiden is a whining bitch” and “I wanna play as Snake”
        Project Itohs don’t grow on trees 😉

        • NegaScott128

          Well, there’s other examples. Sam Raimi gave Spider-Man the ability to shoot webs without the wrist-based shooters he has in the comics, because it streamlined the story and he knew having a seemingly-poor kid create advanced technology would be unrealistic and strain credibility. Bryan Singer changed Rogue from a 30-something confident in her powers to a teenager who’s still learning, because he realized her powers made her a good character to explore the downsides of being a mutant and a good audience surrogate.

          You just need a good filmmaker who isn’t a fanboy. They need to be able to take a good hard look at the source material and remove or change the parts that won’t work on film while also staying true to the themes of the source.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Bryan Singer also turned Cyclops into a pussy bitch

  • Jordan Vogt-Roberts is currently doing a Reddit AMA:

    “I am attached to direct the METAL GEAR SOLID movie and I plan to do Kojima’s voice and tone the justice is deserves.”

    • After years of failing to understand comic book properties, Hollywood has finally cracked the code on how to adapt them into movies and we’re seeing the critical and financial benefit from it. Video games are naturally the next wave… Many people think that video games can’t successfully be adapted into films because of the inherent difference between an active experience and a passive one. I disagree. In my opinion, part of the reason this code hasn’t been cracked is because Hollywood hasn’t developed these properties with the right filmmaker. The first great video game movie needs to reconcile the fact that each game has its own language that elicits specific emotions from a player while investing an audience in a compelling cinematic narrative rooted in character.
      Though many people are skeptical this can be done, the first great video game movie will silence naysayers in the same way THE LORD OF THE RINGS films completely redefined fantasy and reminded people that in film nothing stays “unadaptable” for long. Metal Gear Solid is often poster boy for the “interactive movie,” conception of games. Kojima develops experiences that thrive on interactivity, and then pumps them full of long / idiosyncratic cut scenes that owe their heritage more to the tropes of film than to gaming (even though he’s constantly pushing the medium forward) . In a time when the action in movies feel too much like a game, the Metal Gear franchise is a game that has some of the most engaging and inventive gameplay on the planet but people have often said the series feels much like a movie. We must accept the following: The ACTIVE experience of playing a game naturally invests the player because of the personal actions being taken. The PASSIVE experience of watching a movie is very different and you don’t have the same kind of natural investment. Plot elements, character arcs and many things that may work well in a game might not translate on screen. So I intend to do two things:

      He is full of shit. Now I’m 100% certain for that. He does not understand Metal Gear games at all. He is not a gamer and basically described an opinion from the same people who are not even fans of the games really. Metal Gear Solid does not feel like a fucking movie. It feels like a videogame that uses cutscenes and other mechanics to tell it’s story. It’s story was told the way hardware actually allowed to do at that time for the original Metal Gear Solid. With each chapter of Metal Gear Saga they used different mechanics to tell it’s story (via dog tags, comics, character interactions, codec, cassette tapes, missions and much more than that. Even when you see a shadow of Vulcan Raven toy in MGS2, this is also a method to tell a story.)
      God… I can continue for so long, but I guess now people should understand the situation. He even compares Games medium to comics where Hollywood eventually can extract all of the juices from video games. Guess what Jordan, Hollywood did not cracked the code for Comic book movies, there are still horrible comic movies even today. Of course, there will be a good movie with the video game adaptation for sure, but not from You.

      Oh my… No. No.

      • BurntFM

        That’s how I interpret MGS games too. I think Kojima mentioned that there are things that can only be done in Video Games that isn’t possible in other media. I think that’s what has been part of his genius. Pushing the envelope on what can be possible in the game medium. Having “cut scenes’ in a game doesn’t mean a game feels like a movie. I am prepared for the worst from this guy.

      • NegaScott128

        He’s not saying he thinks it’s like a movie, though. He’s saying other people think that.

      • Lex Radu

        Dude, he just pointed the mistakes everyone made so far, so if something, it shows that he knows what mistakes not to make, and that he knows how to approach it, that addapting to big screen is not about adapting the plot, but the story, about getting the tone right, and having a good film that happens to take place in the MG universe!

        He is actually the best choice!

        • I heard that bullshit before trillion times already.
          This comment is basically the same thing the director of Warcraft movie said. In fact, he compared his movie to the Lord Of The Rings but for the videogame audience.

          He is not the best choice. For me he is not even passable for the minimum requirements for any huge movies, not to mention Metal Gear Solid franchise. He is an indie film maker with one Hollywood blockbuster that has mixed reviews all over the place. Major complaints are – shallow and boring characters, bad editing and directing over all.

          • Gatsu

            I think it’s better to watch some of his work before crushing him completely. Few of my friends saw Kong already and thought it was awesome. Im gonna see it tomorrow maybe :).

            I know that with any director, many fans would still hate the idea of MGS becoming a movie.

          • If, by any chance James Cameron will make a Metal Gear Solid movie, I will be all over it for example. Because he has tons of experience with awesome sci-fi movies.
            Kong director is too young for Metal Gear Solid or even blockbuster movies that costs 200$ million to make. You need to have at least experience for this stuff.

            Look, screwing MGS is not only bad for movie industry but for the gaming industry too. MGS is one of these titles that can actually be dangerous for the whole media. It’s not that simple.

            I will watch Kong for sure, but only for Blu-Ray. I don’t want to be screwed in the Movie theater. That’s why I’m not going. =/

          • Gatsu

            Sure James has experience, but I dont know could he still do a good movie of MGS anyway. We will never know.

            Also np :D, no need to go watch every movie in theaters ^_^.

          • Lex Radu

            “Kong director is too young for Metal Gear Solid or even blockbuster movies that costs 200$ million to make.”

            You do realize that the Metal Gear Movie won’t be made in the next few years, that they are only on the pre-production phase, they don’t even have a script yet, so it will take a few years to make, and at that time Jordan will be wiser!

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Cameron would be perfect
            If only he didn’t make aliens or avatar

          • Full Options

            Relax Golgari, maybe he won’t poo on it that bad… And there is also an interesting factor :
            The story is so awesome / autonomous itself that any move to give MG more visibility can fairly go in the right directions..
            Imagine the public discovering the story so great that it could induce rebooting it several times, more and more polished, along with possible prequels / sequels, just like comics are experiencing..
            Honestly, I would also prefer somebody like Carpenter or Scott, but let’s give the guy a shot, mate.. It is tricky but Boss looks like trusting him..
            Let’s wait and see.. ;D

          • I trust Kojima always, but does not mean that he does not make mistakes at all.
            Full Options, understand what you say… BUT… Metal Gear Solid is a very dangerous piece of entertainment. MGS community is already pissed at Konami for pachinko, KojiPro situation, boss situation and stuff. It is also a very dangerous IP for gaming industry.
            I remember these days when Hollywood said that games are for children and they can’t tell stories. If you will make a bad MGS movie by overusing it’s tropes and silly things that does not work in a movie… Hollywood will laugh at games again and people who does not know much about games will not get the idea on why this franchise is so amazing when it comes to the storytelling and why gamers all over the world love it.

            Look, I was burned too much by Hollywood. there were serious examples where Hollywood failed spectacularly (my fav example – Warcraft movie where even Blizzard Entertainment was working on it.)
            But here we have not experienced director who talks nonsense IMO. This is very dangerous and I don’t understand why you guys don’t get it. You are all like: “Whatevs… bad movie? Ok… Good movie? Maybe… yaay.”

          • Gatsu

            I just dont see the point of hating all of it, because if the movie is gonna happen, then its gonna happen. Me raging about it isn’t changing anything. So I rather try to trust the director which the movie is going to have.

            There is always a chance that a game movie will be good. I don’t find any reason to hate on it before it has even started. I love MGS, but I just have more important things to worry about than is the movie going to be good or not.

            I like to stay positive so im sure it’s in good hands ;).

          • Full Options

            I trust Kojima always, but does not mean that he does not make mistakes at all.

            My very dear Golgari, I do not always love Boss choices, stay re-insured on that.

            Full Options, understand what you say… BUT… Metal Gear Solid is a very dangerous piece of entertainment.
            MGS community is already pissed at Konami for pachinko, KojiPro situation, boss situation and stuff. It is also a very dangerous IP for gaming industry.

            Got you 1000 % mate; remember Ken getting mad at people asking for Survive and shit… Do you remember how painfully he replied..

            I remember these days when Hollywood said that games are for children and they can’t tell stories. If you will make a bad MGS movie by overusing it’s tropes and silly things that does not work in a movie… Hollywood will laugh at games again and people who does not know much about games will not get the idea on why this franchise is so amazing when it comes to the storytelling and why gamers all over the world love it.

            Do not worry, fact is that hollywood play games now… From Actors to producers… Not as much as us but they understood games are the fully next generation medium. Now either they understand they have to respect our game dev gods, either they’ll miss the train.

            Look, I was burned too much by Hollywood.

            Me too Bro.

            there were serious examples where Hollywood failed spectacularly (my fav example – Warcraft movie where even Blizzard Entertainment was working on it.)

            Did not watched it yet, but really sad to see a top-fan like you so disapointed.

            But here we have not experienced director who talks nonsense IMO. This is very dangerous and I don’t understand why you guys don’t get it. You are all like: “Whatevs… bad movie? Ok… Good movie? Maybe… yaay.”

            Relax buddy, we are all frightened, but the guy seem to at least know how to operate a Dual-Shock, which is a large improvment across the well agreed past sad experiences we happened to live. If he fuck it up all, I’ll hate him at least as much, but let him drop something… After all, MG deserve a movie soooo sooner that any game adaptation, correct ?
            I understand you like extreeeme, no doubt about that.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            God no…
            Plzzzzz nooooo
            He’ll shit on the story

          • Full Options

            Ridley Scott, father of Blade Runner, Alien, etc, can shit on a story ? Is your carpet made of weed and if yes, why did you smoked it pure like that ? ;D

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Ridley Scott
            Father of exodus
            GI Jane
            1492 or some shit like that and tons of flops
            Also don’t give him too much credit for Alien
            Giger,O Bannon and Shusett are the father of alien
            Hill and agile simply did their job but by adding Ash they elevated the movie

          • Full Options

            Man, cmon,

            Blade Runner
            Thelma & Louise..

            He truly belong to the movies directors elite !?
            It is rare to have successful producers in so many different movie genres…
            Regarding Alien, of course the whole team are “fathers” and all did so great.. The job of a producer is to mix all the discipline from art direction, script, photography, sound, etc… You need a lot of talent to make them all match / achieve such masterpieces.
            And I think Prometheus was great, btw, sad you did not enjoyed…

            I truly appreciate with which delicateness he secure his productions, notably regarding this always awesome photography direction he so well take care of everytime…

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            I actually enjoyed prometheus

          • Full Options

            I see, sorry I thought it was your black-list.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            DAVID Giler and WALTER Hill

          • Full Options

            Awesome, never saw this commercial for AMD, haha !!

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Haha don’t worry
            Tomorrow we’ll have a brand new sneak peak for the film

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Not blatant product placement

          • Full Options

            AMD gave more than Intel it seems… 😀
            If Weyland ship Walter with an AMD CPU, it means our PS4 is a Weyland Industries game console…

          • Gatsu

            Omfg :O….

          • Lex Radu

            All i’m saying is, give him a chance, especially since it looks like the problems of Kong are with the script, and not the way it was Directed, the Directing being actually the most praised aspect of the film!

            Blaming Jordan for the bland Characters is like blaming Sam Rami for Spiderman 3 instead of the writters!

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Warcraft was loved by movie fans FFS
            Stop being a cynical …
            King has positive reviews
            It’s a fact
            Get over it
            And WB is to blame

          • Lex Radu

            1. Yes
            2. Yes
            3. Unfortunately…yes! (Hashtag Pray for DC)

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            (Hashtag No)

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Why should I pray for DC?
            They’re doing well financially

          • Lex Radu

            For the future of DC Films, praying that they’ll be better than BVS and Suicide Squad!

    • Full Options

      Guess which emblematic one you chose.. 😀

    • Gatsu

      I still have my horizon zero theme :). Hmm I might change. Its awesome that they finally added this ^_^.

    • Tom Brearley-Smith

      It’s beautiful. One of my personal favourite moments from TPP – or hell, Mission 43 in general!

    • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

      One “patriot” descends in hell. But did he really want that title? Or did he simply want to defend innocents? It doesn’t matter now since he gave that idea up ever since the U.S disrespected his mentor.One of the most noble persons the military will ever know.

    • Mini gear

      ohhh I love this feature, cant wait to see what you guys come up with

  • Lex Radu

    Apparently Kong: Skull Island not only has a ship names “Gray Fox” but one of the score tracks from the OST too, “Grey Fox”, similar enough!

    • Lex Radu

      I don’t know about you guys, but to me this sounds quite “Metal Gear” like!

    • Tom Brearley-Smith

      Grey Fox! …You’re that ninja.

      • Lex Radu

        *says while grabing Grey Fox’s Left chest*

  • This looks really awful. this is what I’m talking about when it comes to directing famous anime/videogames with the directors that has no real experience in film making.

  • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

    Except it should have been another movie
    And actually it was going to be an original project
    Great movie

  • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

    Was going to post this
    This thing gave me a boner(Because of the graphics not the sex)
    Bioware are clearly EA’s best asset
    As if that wasn’t clear enough
    They should make KOTOR3

    • Gatsu

      Yea it gave that to me too ;). I think I’m gonna get it for my cozy PS4 <3.

      • Have you already beaten Horizon? There’s so much coming out recently, NieR Automata looks awesome as well.

        • Gatsu

          Not yet :D. I’m gonna continue it a bit later today and focusing more on main quests. I’ve done lots of exploring and side quests so far. Easily one of the best games ever and the combat is so cool and intense omg <3.
          Fighting against few of the machines, like Thunderjaws give me MGS feels which is freaking awesome :)!

          One of my friend got it day later than me and finished it after couple days. I don't wanna rush, just enjoying all of it and progressing slowly and well can't play a lot during work days :). Have you finished it yet Nyx?

          There are so many games indeed and it is still Q1 xD, what a crazy year O_O… Nier I am planning to get in maybe next month. I still have to continue Nioh after Horizon, I only managed to beat 3 bosses before Berserk released and then Horizon ;D.

          Persona 5 in June…Danganronpa 3 too and many other games coming xD.

        • This year is amazing with games. I finished Horizon:ZD today. Now playing The Legend Of Zelda:BOTW – GOTY and already one of my favorite games of all time.
          Already bought Nier:Automata – I’m Platinum Games fan.
          Recently I completed NIOH which was a good game with some flaws and finished very good Resident Evil 7 game.

          This year is so good compared to last year for me. I’m loving Q1-Q2 for this year.

          I don’t know if I will play Mass Effect. Never liked the series, but if the reviews will be decent maybe I will pick it.

          • Gatsu

            Golgari did it take you a long time to finish Nioh? Just wondering how long it is, when I will continue it later. I probably cant finish before ME release though lol xD… T_T

          • Yeah. It’s a long game. 60+ hours one.
            Honestly, it’s a very good Japanese Action/RPG/Hack and slash game. Don’t finish it really fast. Just enjoy yourself with it.
            Honestly, knowing Bioware it’s better to wait for patches.

  • Lex Radu

    Even without the setings to Max, as long as your PC is more powerful than the PS4, do with the PC Version!

    • Gatsu

      Hmm perhaps you’re right ;).

  • Lex Radu

    wow, 197 nukes on Xbox One.

    We can get them to 0!

    • Gatsu


    • Tom Brearley-Smith

      Talking of nukes, things are gonna get awkward when you realise Konami’s last update on the nuke numbers was nearly half a year ago.

      • Lex Radu

        Well, crap!

  • Kojima’s essay on Kong: Skull Island by Jordan Vogt-Roberts:

    • Gatsu

      Awesome, thanks Nyx ^_^! I enjoyed reading that.

      I couldn’t go see Kong today so maybe going on Monday :D.

  • Gatsu

    Guys you saw this yet? So cool

  • JJBYACHFullOptions2KojiBoi

    Smarter people than me can go try and make theories out of this, I have no idea…

    • It’s a scene from Death Stranding: Mads Mikkelsen and his partner in crime took down a vessel that transports bottled fetuses, in order to steal a specific one that is important for yet unknown reasons.

      Just a guess. 😛

    • Tom Brearley-Smith

      Figure with baby = Hannibal Lecter = Mads’ character (note: not a villain, but a person who does bad deeds for the greater good)
      Figure supposedly crushed by LEGO Yellow Submarine = Will Graham
      Figure standing over Graham = Jack Crawford

      I would like to point out that the relationship between Will Graham and Jack Crawford on the show ‘Hannibal’ might resemble the relationship between Norman Reedus + Guillermo del Toro in ‘Death Stranding’ – sort of like a master-apprentice relationship.
      I know my explanation of all this was more-or-less ripping off YongYea (sorry, pal), but it could be possible.
      Check out the video below for further explanation:

  • Steel Wolf

    Am I the only one who would prefer a metal gear movie? Like mg1+2 slapped together?
    Cos I’m glad a MGS movie is getting made, but I feel like people who aren’t into the series are gonna say “who’s big boss or gray fox” and they’ll have to summarize into a monologue. I feel like mg1 and 2 deserve justice, but eh that’s just me.

    • Lex Radu

      The only thing i want from the Metal Gear Solid Movie, the Jordan one, is to get the tone right and the characters.

      The best way to make MGS1 as a Movie, is to show it from Liquidfs and Ocelot’s Perspective, have the Movie heavy on dialogue, have great dialogue, and then at the end the Big fight, don’t even show the Metal Gear till the third act.

      And for the love of God, don’t show the actual Metal Gear in any of the Trailers, don’t let the Movie audience know what the “Metal Gear”, don’t market it as a “Huge Mech Action” Movie, surprise them like you surprised us, promote it as an Action Comedy, with a Badass with good punch lines, then….BOOOOOOOM, Patriots, 9/11, loosing humanity in war, the truth about wars, genes etc.

  • Janeo

    First time I have been on this site in a while and I see that 30th anniversary article, I can’t believe it, I could have sworn it was the 25th just not long ago, it’s amazing how fast time can go. Thinking about it the 25th was in 2012 and it’s the first time ground zeroes was announced, I still remember the time so clearly lol and then the long three year wait for tpp, I do kind of miss the days where I was waiting for the game and checking every little tiny but if information about it, now it’s been out for well over a year, I don’t have any hype like that anymore unfortunately, though if I had to start waiting again I would probably hate it.

  • Hopefully!

  • This is really hard to do with the new ip. Death Stranding does not have the same legacy as Metal Gear Solid games… So all this speculation is really for nothing.
    Until E3 2017 we can’t expect much.

    • Gatsu

      Of course it isn’t the same, but the site will surely get more commenters when we see new stuff from Kojima-san. It might not be like with MGS, but fans are always excited to share theories and discuss the game once we know more.

    • Yeah but what would happen if the title changed to Metal Gear Solid (Death Stranding)…

      I want this to be Koji’s last Metal Gear game.
      A MG story set in WW2 with a twist, featuring The Boss and the Cobras.

    • True but Kojima still leaves hints (and misleads) in the trailers, so people can still theorize on what the game will be about.

      • the thing is… This is really hard to do. People don’t know much about it to theorize.
        In comparison MGSV had such a smooth marketing campaign. There was always something and past games legacy definitely helped. Ruse cruisers were all over the neogaf, reddit and youtube… but now, so far only Yong does most of the job 😛
        Not enough material and game is not even 10% done at this point. This year is basically a hardcore game development which says basically that preparation days are over.

        I hope that we will see at this E3 how game actually looks from Norman Reedus perspective. I’m sure the game won’t be playable at E3, not even close… But we need some food. It does not need to tell us what the game is about, but I want something like this… an explanation:

        • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

          Kojima spoiled the whole game

          • Eugene Voldo

            Yep. There’s nothing smooth about MGSV marketing campaign. Except for big smooth spoilers. But sometimes I think maybe even Kojima realized that story in MGSV is a hot garbrage and decided to use almost all cinematics in ads and trailers just to invoke this “i’m gonna theorize’d it to death!” mental state in viewer’ head. If so, he did a pretty good job.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            I think you don’t know the definition of hot garbage

          • Eugene Voldo

            I always thought it’s an euphemism for “shit”. Am I wrong?

          • Lex Radu

            No, us breaking them down and putting the pieces together spoiled it, we spoiled it, Kojima just showed a lot without context, that’s nowhere near as bad as BVS showing Doomsday!

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Kojima spoiled mgsv and mgs4
            He should have done the marketing like peace walker

          • Lex Radu

            I not only told you, but proved it to you!
            I’m done here.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Without context?
            It barely took any effort to dissect these scenes.It took a few secs.It’s Kojima’s fault

          • Gatsu

            It was our own fault indeed.

          • Lex Radu

            Finally, someone who understands!

    • Janeo

      Yeah it can’t be the same as it was for metal gear, that had decades of content that really helped fuel speculation, for death stranding we know nothing about it and we won’t understand what it really is until it comes out.
      As of right now I’m looking more forward to metal gear survive, just getting back into that world will be amazing no matter what the story is. Death stranding looks cool and all but it’s no metal gear and I doubt it ever could be, I’m looking forward to seeing what else kojima can bring us but I don’t wanna assume it’s gonna be some amazing game with knowing almost nothing about it.
      Does anyone else find it weird that we have gotten almost no news about survive since it was announced? It’s meant to be coming out this year so I expected little bits of information here and there, maybe we will see some more at e3.

      • It looks like they only provide information at trade shows, They’ve been really silent to the point some or wondering if it’s been cancelled (this is not the case though). But yeah, we’ll probably hear more when the release date gets closer.

  • SNKtheStampede

    Fulfilling violence, fun gameplay, catchy minimalist aesthetics, jazzy sound design interlaced with gameplay. I love it! I suggest you cheking out the playable teaser on steam.

    • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

      “Playable teaser”

      • Lex Radu

        Same reaction, bro!

    • Kong: Playable Teaser

      • Tom Brearley-Smith

        Goddammit! Just got intense ‘Silent Hills’ flashbacks from this one.

  • MrVux007

    Considering the graphical difference will be as always minimal between the two,the only real deal breaker for you would be 30vs60 fps and the launch price.
    And ofc if you plan to play multiplayer with your friends.

  • MrVux007
    • I don’t know… It is 720p with buffering all over the place. Not to mention that that servers are in UK and other… I don’t know. That does not sound impressive to me. Not groundbreaking really.

      I think the service will die in the end. Just not worth it.

      • MrVux007

        Still better that then nothing.
        What’s shocking to me is that people(fanboys) are having a bloody World war 3 on some sites like PlayStation “lost” it’s exclusives,when it’s a simple streaming service.

        I myself couldn’t care less if they trully released them on PC.
        Tho it’s in really poor shape now,I still like to believe streaming is the future.

        • Well PlayStation Now has existed for a while now. Only difference is that they will add PS4 games (we don’t know which ones). So yeah, probably won’t change much in the grand scheme of things. They will probably add games that are no longer selling that well in retail.

    • Lex Radu

      That sounds great!

      I do have a question.

      If you pay the 19.9…20 $ Monthly Fee, do we still have to pay for the Games separately, or does the 20$ give you access to the full library?

      • MrVux007

        20$=Full library (450+ games) ^^
        Hope you try it out,but please keep in mind that you need a decent net speed for more-less the same experience as you would have on a console.
        Digital Foundry stayed 20 mbps should be enough for that with 5 mbps being the minimum.

        Also if u are unsure weather or not the service is any good or if your net is good enough,there should be an 7 day trial.

        • Lex Radu

          I tried to activate the Trial, but it says that is not available in my country.
          Do you know where i can see the available countries, to perhaps connect to that server?


  • Guys, I watched Kong: Skull Island.
    I can say few positive things about it… For example I like that it throws you right in to the Action at the start of the movie. There is no such bullshit like in the previous Godzilla movie that you watch boring humans most of the time and almost no Godzilla. This time around it’s completely different. You see tons of creatures and Kong smashes everything around him. There is one great action fight that I can’t spoil to you…
    But that’s about it, because the negatives are much more.

    For example as was said before, characters in this movie are sooooo boring and not interesting at all. They are just there. I really like Brie Larson as an actor and she is just horrible in it. She does not do anything interesting in this movie. It has also problems with green screen/CGI moments and it is easy to spot some flaws. The movie is very stylish. Super stylish in some ways but the overall impression is not that good. Not the best directing and editing. But yeah, the scenes in the movie are very nice.

    and the worst part, not sure it has anything to do with Jordan…. but Warner just wants Godzilla vs Kong movie. They want their own Avengers, you can see it even at the post credits.

    Overall it is 6/10. It’s not that bad, but it’s not great. It’s just your every day blockbuster movie.
    After this movie I’m absolutely certain that Jordan as a director for Metal Gear Solid movie is not an impressive decision.

    • Alex

      Kong is Kong, not every aspect of it will be representative of the MGS movie which is having a very different approach, much more of a passion project with care and supervision. Kong nailed the most important character down better than prior iterations, so just imagine how much the MG characters will be nailed when they are the characters he holds to the highest of high prestige. There was also a lot more studio blockbuster involvement in it, a franchise movie. Look at the difference between The Wolverine and Logan, when the creators are free from that. But even with that, look at the mediocre Project Almanac and the positive buzz Power Rangers is getting; 2 similar movies can still have totally different levels of quality from the same creator. I’ve been feeling really good about the MGS movie regardless of how Kong is because I know its a Warner Bros movie with totally different intent and team behind it, mainly just because of the things Jordan has said and his mental space in approaching it is hitting the nail right on the head. As far as the Kong movie itself, I found it to be very entertaining and engaging for what it was, which is monster movie blockbuster fun. I give it more of an 8 out of 10. The characters didn’t need to be great (though John C Reily’s actually was and had true depth) because monster movies in general are not about the human characters. They all had unique individual purposes in serving Kong and monster movie staples, they all had different motives and personalities which helped make up for lack of depth. Like the criticisms of superhero movies that dont have a great villain, its not needed whenever the movie is clearly building the hero. Plus, I saw it in IMAX, which probably pumped up the value of the experience a lot considering its bombastic nature.

      The movie shows that Jordan knows how to shoot and frame a shot, so many visuals and scenes made me feel really good about him nailing great visuals for MGS. The script when/if done right will take care of the rest.

      • Just because it is blockbuster fun, does not mean that characters should not be interesting. That is bullshit. There are a lot of characters in this movie and all of them are shallow and horrible. They are not even passable as a characters. They are absolutely empty and that is also Jordan’s fault.
        James Conrad was cringeworthy, Preston Packard as Samuel was typical “You are in the shit!! Good For ye” and that’s it, Mason Weaver was a major disappointment. She did nothing in the movie except for shooting monsters and environment.

        Not to mention that there are issues with cinematography. Green screen problems for all of the movie, editing is sub-par at best with stylish art style. Art over substance.

        He is not even passable for another 190$ million budget movie, not just MGS.
        We had this before already when Duncan Jones with the same experience made Warcraft Movie with a huge budget and Blizzard behind it. It was a horrible mess.

        Jordan is not qualified for this at all. Period. MGS is not just great visuals and you can’t just make the script right. It’s not about the script. It’s about one person who directed the game, designed it and made the script with the help of others that made this game work.
        Movie remake is a different beast that requires a significant knowledge and experience. Jordan does not have knowledge and experience.

        King Kong – from Peter Jackson is a great film and Kong Skull Island is not. It’s not great.

    • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

      Kong v godzilla is an olddd thing so the mcu can go burn in hell

      • Post credit hint at that. Warner wants to make a huge movie out of it.

        • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

          By old thing I mean,there has already been a king Godzilla universe cinematic universe dongy bodongy shit

    • NegaScott128

      I also saw Skull Island. And, much like with Godzilla, my problems with the film lie far more in the writing than the direction. Kong shares two writers with Godzilla, and it appears they went about trying to solve Godzilla’s problems in the least imaginative way possible. Not enough Godzilla? Show Kong in the first three minutes! Killed off Bryan Cranston too early? Keep John C. Riley around the whole movie! They technically fixed the problems, but they didn’t do it very creatively or particularly well. They actually went kinda backwards in one respect; somehow, the protagonist in Kong is even more boring than the one in Godzilla, despite being portrayed by Tom Hiddleston, who’s usually a pretty charismatic and likable actor. That’s almost impressive.

      As for Roberts’ direction, it was fine. Not spectacular, and certainly not as good as Gareth Edwards’ direction in Godzilla, but alright. I wasn’t nearly as annoyed by the editing as Chris Stuckmann was, but I can kinda understand where he’s coming from. It comes across as a bit “show-off”-y at times, but it was never a big problem for me. The monster fights were really good, but that’s not the sort of thing that would apply to MGS anyway, and it might have been more down to the CGI animators or second unit directors than Roberts himself. In the other scenes, Roberts never does anything particularly inventive or impressive, which is kinda what I was expecting from an indie director making a huge blockbuster. It’s safe, but it’s decent enough.

      I’ll say this: the movie didn’t get me on board for an MGS film in the same way that, say, Arrival got me on board for Blade Runner 2049. Roberts never wowed me like Villeneuve did with that film.

      • honestly reading your opinion…. I can’t really disagree with your points. For me Kong was just too standard. MGS movie will be a much bigger deal when it comes to directing it. Jordan is working with the writers and I sense that he is still not sure about many things.
        But recent comments from him and this movie just… I don’t know. I don’t want it.

        If Villeneuve or James Cameron or someone famous would direct MGS movie (which is not happening anyway)… I’m on board with this anytime, but I don’t trust Jordan at all.

        • NegaScott128

          I think a more-experience director would be a better option; the only problem is, who exactly would be a good fit? A lot of the “big name” directors are, for lack of a better term, “auteurs,” and they have specific styles that wouldn’t really mesh with MGS. In the case of Villeneuve, his films are all really serious and somber, while the MGS games use humor very frequently. With Cameron, his movies favor characterizations that are… let’s be nice and say “broad.” He’s not exactly known for deep, complex characters, which, again, MGS has in spades.

          I’m not really sure which director would really work. The only one who could possibly make everyone happy would be Kojima, and I’m pretty sure he’s not interested.

          • Mr.Pony

            A MGS movie cannot rely on the humour side of the games, it just doesn’t work, if they include it the whole thing falls apart, and you get a crazy mix that does neither the serious stuff nor the funnier stuff. I would like to see someone like Nolan doing this, he proved that you can do a good batman movie and that kind of achievement is what MGS needs. Nolan managed to portrait the most dark side of the comics, separate it from the more humours side and then apply it to the big screen, it’s the kind of thinking and filtering that MGS needs, and its the only ways I see it becoming a good movie.

          • NegaScott128

            I’m not saying it has to be a comedy, but if you want to make a movie that feels like MGS, it has to have that element there. Just like it needs to have the philosophical dialogue, and the crazy supernatural bosses, and the monologues about technology and geopolitics. I also think the comedy could help a general audience swallow the crazier elements of MGS. This is a series with psychics wearing bondage gear, bisexual flamingo-dancing vampires, and 100-year-old photosynthetic snipers. Treating all that with 100% seriousness would only make the audience take it less seriously. If you at least acknowledge the craziness of the situation, it helps get the audience invested in the story.

          • Yeah, Nolan would be a great choice based on how he approached the Batman movies.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Batman begins>>>> TDK
            I like to pretend the shitfest TDKR was never made

          • radun

            Batman Begins is more stylish, that i agree with. The Dark Knight though (while clearly a bit rushed and a bit rough here and there) is probably the most thematically consistent hero movie ever made. It’s just amazing imo.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            It’s a great crime drama and Eckhart’s two face will remain my fav 4ever
            However Ledger and Bale are overrated
            Especially the horrible bale

          • radun

            absolutely. And the irony about the Nolan’s Batman movies (especially Dark Knight) is that he approached them as he would any movie he makes, and very differently from all other directors/writers that made super heroes movies.

            He wrote a great action thriller FIRST, with the characters and their bizarreness kept just enough to support the narrative, while all others went the opposite way, with as many characters as possible thrown in the movie, and with a narrative meant to “justify” their appearences.

            In my opinion as well, apart from Kojima himself, Nolan would be the perfect choice for a MGS movie.

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            “He proved you can do a good batman movie”
            N***a Are you for serious?
            Tim Nurton made a great ass movie in 1989

          • Mr.Pony

            Do you want Solid Snake being played by Johny Deep? Sure its a good movie but its a Tim Burton movie, his aesthetics is all over his films which would not mix well with MGS at all

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Dude did you even read my comment

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            And I don’t want Solid Snake to be played by a growly bitch who can’t fight and all the supernatural elements removed
            Fuck Nolan and I hope he burns in hell /:

          • LeGuyWhoDownedQuiet

            Honestly Cameron turned one of the most intelligent mysterious species into insects , liked terminator genisys and is doing 4 avatar sequels.The man is not the right choice at ….all

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