MGSV:TPP available for pre-order on PSN, seemingly features microtransactions

For those who are interested in the digital version on PlayStation, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain has been made available for pre-order on the PlayStation Network. One thing people noticed is the text ‘in-game purchases optional’. During the preview event, journalists also reported an option that lets you speed up Mother Base development that would otherwise take up several hours, but when they tried it, an error message told them the feature wasn’t available in offline mode. So it looks like MGSV:TPP will feature some degree of microtransactions. Not the best news perhaps, since microtransactions aren’t exactly loved among the gaming community, but at least it’s something that can be ignored.

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Source: PSN Store, via MGSFansUK, IGN, Artemio Twitter

  • captain!

    why

    • korruption

      Konami. Just… Konami…

  • Braden Gunn

    I’m happy sticking with the physical version I mean it’s £10 cheaper to pre-order the PS4 copy from Amazon then it is to prepurchase the PS3 version from the PSN.

  • Solidus Türk

    metal gear with clash of clans setting?

    • Braden Gunn

      That’s probably the best way to think about it, imagine Mother Base as Clash of Clans.

  • Braden Gunn

    Also I have to admit I’m not too fussed by micro transactions, I mean I don’t plan on using them simply for the reason that developing your Mother Base is something that should take a long time to happen, I want my base to progress over time not by paying £5 to have a new facility added in mere seconds.

  • invader_skoodge

    KONAMI!!!!!! Don’t they know they’re not making mobile games yet? This is still a console game Konami stop with the pay-to-win. Now I hope…..HOPE….this is for MGO(likely) but I beg it doesn’t make it to the main game. But from some people who were at the preview event, they saw it managing mother base. Now I don’t know if you guys played the Companion App for Ground Zeroes, but when you completed a mission, you’d get time in the app to build your mother base and unlock characters to go out to missions and get more money to level up your mother base, If you wanted to build faster, you’d press the clock and spend the “time” you’d have to earn by playing more missions from the main game. I bet they took that system but instead of playing the game to build MB quicker, the option would be to pay REAL MONEY to build quicker….This is all just baseless assumptions, but hot damn i’m pissed it’s even there.

    http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–anISX3qt–/786089190602411150.gif

    • WrongDirectionZ

      All i dont want to see is additional content for microtransaction. The whole think is super awfull itself, but additional content for REAL MONEY?? Like new camos or DD members?? No way… I just hope (If this is true) that it stays with speeding up motherbase!

  • WrongDirectionZ

    For those who didnt watched…..

  • Mr.Pony

    As long as it is GMP or time construction reduction it won’t bother me that much. But if it turns out they’re are going to start making DLC then well there goes my last hope for konami…
    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1b/a1/b6/1ba1b6de036b3daa75dc21e28a0b7cbe.gif

    • JoJo

      DLC is pretty much confirmed at this point, considering Day One and Collector’s Editions come with DLC vouchers.

      • Mr.Pony

        It is one thing to give the player a golden gun, when said gun can be found or crafted within the original (cosmetic variation of items etc), it is another to say “hey for 20$ you can have all these new item to craft. And the only way to have them is to buy them”

  • MichaelPayneV

    You know what would be great? If we were united as a community, and all us Canceled our Pre-orders demanding Konami to remove the Microtransactions feature, you know, speaking with our wallets, and we may have got a Victory similar to 2013, when we called Microsoft on their BS, and made them cut the “Always Online” Feature from the Xbox One!

    That being said, if you want to teach Konami a lesson, now is the time, if you won’t, then you have no right to complain about Konami, as long as you support this BS!

    I’m done ranting, but still curious who’s with me.

    • Old Liquid

      Cancel my Collector’s Edition, just to send them a “message” about something that’s optional?!
      You sir, are on your own.

      • MichaelPayneV
        • Old Liquid

          Well played, sir lol. You’re still on your own on this one though.

      • Shalashaska

        optional? yea.. play clash of clans. even that is optional. but THAT IS FREE TO PLAY.
        this is 60 FREAKING DOLLARS

        • Old Liquid

          Not understanding the point here. It’s still an optional device that’s not forcing you to pitch out extra money to progress your game. It doesn’t and shouldn’t handicap your experience. Like most installments of this nature, you can completely ignore micro-transactions and it wouldn’t even make an iota of consequence or significance.

          • MichaelPayneV

            How do you know is not forcing you, how do you know is not like MKX, when the Previewers would get more GMP for Progress then the Release version?

          • Old Liquid

            If whoever uses micro-transactions and get “more” GMP for progress, how does that effect your own gaming experience again?

          • MichaelPayneV

            Well if in the final version of TPP you win less GMP for missions then the Preview Version, how is that not forcing you to buy in to Micro Transaction, Genius?

          • Old Liquid

            First of all, what is this “preview version” you keep spewing about? Everybody will have the same copy. Greg Miller confirmed that he would have to start over with a new copy. Secondly, why would someone else’s choice, “force” you into doing something you ultimately don’t want to do?

          • Shalashaska

            he is correct. Mkx made the grind for coins harder to push people to buy their micro transactions.

          • Old Liquid

            What part of “optional” are you not understanding? You’re not obligated to buy micro-transactions to advance your game. If another person wants to “buy coins” (which btw, grinding marathon versus for koins wasn’t hard) for MKX, why should that bother you? The only way this could affect you, is if you’re feeling salty that other people willingly decide to exploit that, while you’re struggling advancing with your own playthrough.

          • Shalashaska

            for one, its not about advancing and being competitive online. Its about devs being ok put this thing into the game.. right now we’re saying its okay.. but what happens when they release the next xcom or something then ask to pay for speeding up soldier trainings and researches in SINGLEPLAYER…

          • Old Liquid

            Then as I said before, if it’s something you have a grip with on developers putting MTs, which are practically invisible and non-intrusive, for those who don’t mind buffing up their own experience with additional content. then you are free to cancel your MGSV pre-order right now, just like you are free to ignore Micro-transactions. Which one are you gonna choose?

          • Shalashaska

            I dont understand why youre ok with MT because people want to buff themselves up. THE CORPORATE PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT YOU buddy, they care about your money. IF THEY CARED about you, they’d give you a cheat, not ask you money to buff yourself up :S

          • Old Liquid

            Because I don’t care what other people do with their money. Situations vary. I only care about my own experiences with my own playthrough. Corporations don’t need to “care” about me. It’s in their interest to deliver the best quality game based off their creative determination that they can muster to hype & entice sales. That’s how the business trade works for us. As far as “cheats”, I fairly certain there will be no “Godmode, Infinite Everything mode”, because that’s not what micro-transaction perks are there for. which is the kind of traditional “cheat” you’re probably thinking about.

            As far as the whole heat with Microtransactions being in MGSV entirely , most likely they’re gonna be used for MGO3, just like MGO2. MTs that are online-oriented are usually for cosmetic and expansion perks for new maps and content, which you obviously would get if it catered to a new playing experience. Single-player MTs usually content that simply favors equipment and aesthetics, all optional. I personally don’t do MTs, and never cared for them, but I’m not gonna knock anyone else who does it nor criticize developers that implement it in compensating the high-end development costs their game required, which is why most, if not all Triple A titles carry it.

          • Shalashaska

            Hey, bear with me buddy, i may say some sh*t but i dont mean it personally, its just that these damn tactics piss me off. Its nothing personal, bud 🙂
            Let me put this in bullet points so its easier.
            1. The perks a Micro transactions gives CAN CAN CAN CAN CAN be given in form of a cheat code. I do not mean God mode. There are numerous ways devs can put cheats in their games to make it easier. Or have a mode that makes people with busy lives, happy. Thing is, they dont care whether you have enough time or not, all they care is that what they worked hard for, pays off.
            Then its the publishers. They force devs to put in shit like MT because they want to milk every hard earned penny we have.
            Devs are forced to tweak gameplay to make MT look good and dont deny it. Even MKx did it and if you saw any of the reviews, you’d know they tweaked it HARD so the MT would benefit.

            2. MOST OF THIS SHIT IS ON THE F**G DISC BEHIND A F****G PAY WALLLL.
            Imagine getting a PC and then the Company says “PAY EXTRA TO UNLOCK FULL POTENTIAL OF YOUR PC”
            OR
            Imagine getting a game and then a chunk of it, albeit not a important one, being ripped off from it, blocked behind a pay wall for more cash for the publishers. NO NO NO, I PAID FOR THAT . It was ON THEIR INITIAL BUDGET YOU DONT GET TO CUT A F***G PART OF THE GAME FOR DLC OR MT.
            FOR THAT, AFTER the Sales have been done, YOU INVEST and take more time and effort AFTER YOUR INITIAL game is DONE 100% to make those DLCS and MT worth it. Instead what you have now, is devs make a 100% of the game and then blocking 10-15% of it behind paywalls.

            3. When a tripple AAA tittle that earns IN MILLIONS per game, IT DOESNT NEED MTs. Clash of Clans needs it, its a FREE TO PLAY, if console games want to put optional MT , i think they should be free to play too, then i’ll be ok with paying them for MT.

            4. 60$ for one game, NOT INCLUDING ALL THE F***G DLC money is WAY more than enough for publishers. Im sorry for thinking that they already have alot of cash.
            Destiny took 500$ to make, it got 350$ of it back in 5 days so please dont tell me they do this to compensate. You should check the stats.
            Gta 5 took $265 million to make
            and it made 800$ million back in a day
            All the tripple AAA titles DO NOT NEED MT to compensate for costs.

            AND Honestly, IF a dlc or MT was MADE OUTSIDE OF THE GAMES INITIAL BUDGET, it would be ok to pay for that because then you know that these guys have taken extra money and time and effort to make more content. For which they deserve more money.
            But that isnt whats happening. Instead, the publishers have a full game budget, the DLC and MT are made in THAT Budget and then 10-15% of that full game either goes behind paywalls or DLCS. And then people have been brainwashed to believe that its okay because its not bad and its ok to not only pay full GAME COST but also pay DLC AND MT.

            Im sorry, when MT had first come in place, everyone was angry about it. Nowadays everyone goes like “Its okay, it nothing, its alright, its only optional” Because now its been forced down their damn throats and they are getting used to it.

            Did you play FORZA ? THE GAME WAS FILLED with MT.. do you the amount of DLC and MT that game had.. now imagine every triple AAA tittle with it. Every GOOD CAR in A NFS game Behind A DLC or MT Pay wall.
            Now maybe its not huge now, but they are just slowly sliding it in to make gamers used to MT. Maybe its not a huge thing In Metal Gear but being ok with it is the reason gaming has become less of an art for devs and more of a cash grab for publishers.

          • MichaelPayneV

            First of all, i’m talking about what the Media played, and second, you must have lived under a Rock this May!

          • Old Liquid

            I know what the “media” played, and I’m telling you that the reviewers that attended the event like Greg Miller, said they don’t have their save data, and they have to start from scratch with a purchased copy like the rest of us.

          • MichaelPayneV

            You are missing the point.

          • Shalashaska

            it does because they make the grind for users without microtransactions, harder. Like how when MK had the coins things and then when the final release came out, the amount of coin you earned was not only decreased but also made harder to get so in order to push people to buy their micro transactions.

          • Old Liquid

            Sooooo….. You want to subject everyone to the same experience as yours, regardless of various situations? There are people (not me) that don’t have time to get fully into games because they have backlogs and other activities in life that doesn’t allow them to sink deeply into their games. They’re given a option to spend on additional content to further their progress. Again, it’s their own choice, their own leisure. It isn’t affecting you. It shouldn’t “push” you to do anything if you’re enjoying your own experience.

          • Shalashaska

            wait, so what youre telling me is that is ok to pay for a cheat? We had that situation before too, remember? People were busy before too but game had things called cheats which helped progression and made it easier. Which game DIDNT have cheats.. each one of them had. even COD did. GTA did.. almost all of them did.
            You can get the same thing with a cheat.. cant you ..why do you want to be pushed to pay for something? DEVS ARENT doing it for busy people, they are doing it because corporate pushes them. if they cared so much,they could make a cheat.

          • Shalashaska

            Because of this. If everyone is going to be like “Its ok, its optional”

            http://images.lazygamer.net/2013/12/mona-lisa-update.jpg

          • Old Liquid

            That’s a very horrible analogy. Almost patronizing.

          • Mr.Pony

            Not really, that is the future of the industry without a breaking point for players

          • Shalashaska

            if we continue down the same path, this will be the state of triple AAA games, we’ll have prologues, body and end in three seperate disc that each cost 50$.
            When Dlcs came out, no one said much .. then it DLCs became a money grab. Difficulty levels were left for 10$ first day dlcs. or “ALTERNATE ENDINGS” were left for dlcs. Now they are slowly pushing in micro transactions, next thing we know is that every store in a game has product you need to buy with real cash instead of game cash.

          • Old Liquid

            Okay, if you think this is gonna kill the game and your experience, then cancel your MGSV copy right now.

          • Shalashaska

            See the thing Im saying is not that im gonna stay away completely but i am gonna make them hurt for it 😛 I’ll buy it once i can get it for 25-30$

          • Old Liquid

            Fine by me, sir. That’s your choice, just like the whole micro-transaction thing is your choice too lol.

          • Shalashaska

            We’ll see buddy.. its something we have to waiiittt and seee 😛

          • That is assuming things will get progressively worse, but look at one of the newest titles to come out: The Witcher 3, which has multiple sets of free DLC. And this is rewarding in the sense that they have received a lot of support and goodwill from gamers, and The Witcher 3 has been a huge success in sales. So who’s not to say other developers will not take note and think: what is better for us? A quick cash grab or maintaining a good reputation and the long lasting support of gamers?

          • Mr.Pony

            That is a good example totally agree, but what if is just that? What if is just that one studio? No one can really tell how it will turn out sure. The witcher came with the message, and now we as players are about to see if other companies take that into account, or continue with their businesses mode.

          • Shalashaska

            True. Completely Agree. But thats they thing.. the only game to NOT follow this trend in any way was The Witcher 3. Even giving out free DLC.. which in my opinion, despite i cant play it, thats is awesome! But I think if every triple AAA title is going to do this.. in the end, we’re gonna be left with crappy cut games :/

          • No Place For Hayter

            Hold on, I have a more accurate one, that covers older times.

          • Took the words right out of my mouth.

          • No Place For Hayter

            The biggest problem with micro-transactions like that is the game is on most occasions modified to make the micro-transactions more appealing, it is the corporations job to make you want those pointless micro-transactions, if they can’t sell you on them they won’t make money.

    • Shalashaska

      this would be so good.

    • No Place For Hayter

      As much as I love your idea, you are giving Konaim to much credit, if we all did this the message would not be sent the way we want it too, Konami is to stupid to see why we would even if we told them, if they were smart enough to do that they would have been smart enough to not even put them in in the first place.

      I would love to do what you say, but I know it would not get intended effect, Konami would not change anything and the game would be a failure and most people would Blame Kojima as it is his game, nobody would care enough about it to even go looking for the reason why we cancelled our pre-orders let alone give enough brain power to understand we don’t like being used and abused “why don’ they like more content?” “They don’t want to pay for the developers hard work any new content? RETARDS THIS DLC IS NOT SPAWNED OUT OF THIN AIR PEOPLE MAKE IT AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT PEOPLE DON’T WORK FOR FREE!” Most people ESPECIALLY corporations are to stupid to grasp why their market does not always agree with their “GENIUS AWESOME IDEAS”. If we all cancelled our Pre-oders the outcome would be disastrous, the best we can do is support Kojimas last game, but never again support Konami.

  • Old Liquid

    What the heck?

    http://www.metalgearinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Metal-Gear-Solid-V-The-Phantom-Pain-Versions-Overview.jpg

    Their list CLEARLY stated that “Black Ocelot” fatigue was only for the Collector’s Edition (It’s one of many reasons why I went with the Collector’s Edition because the colors look the best IMO + I’m an Ocelot fanboy). Now they changed their minds and added it for Pre-Order digital? That’s kind of bullshit. I know it’s a small nitpick, but damnit if you decide to make content exclusive for a specific requirement, stick to the your damn word.

  • Shalashaska

    i think im not giving konami 60 dollars for this anymore.
    what is this? clash of clans? F**K THIS AND F**K KONAMI
    GOODJOB at proving how WORTHLESS next non-kojima MG is going to be.

    i will smack anyone i know who buys into these microBs.

    • MichaelPayneV

      FINALLY, someone is with me!

      • Mr.Pony
        • MichaelPayneV

          Well, that’s a bit too far, the right thing to do, is not buying, and neither playing it till Konami does the right thing!

          • Mr.Pony

            I’m not saying not to buy the game eventually, just to make the sales hurt at the beginning

          • Shalashaska

            this is what im going to do… im gonna wait and then im gonna get it for 1/4th the price

          • Mr.Pony

            You sir, i take my hat to that proposal

          • MichaelPayneV

            I’ll be doing just like i did with GZ, Download it, then when the price drops, buy it on Disk, or eventually on a Steam Sale!

          • Mr.Pony

            To the best, worst selling, game at launch i raise you my glass gentleman

          • MichaelPayneV

            Cheers

          • MichaelPayneV

            That’s a good point, after all, Hideo Kojima and Kojima Productions have been probably already paid during Development, plus Kojima is already out, so it would be impossible to pay him now, so the only place the Money will go is Konami, and Konami may deserve this, “Not for Justice”, “Not for Honor”, “Not for Love”, “Not for Peace”….”ONLY FOR REVENGE” for Kojima!

            Waaaaa-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

          • Shalashaska

            exactly. no regrets. kojima san is already gonna get richer.

        • Pirating is never the way to go. You either want to play the game and buy it, or decide you want to boycott it and stick to that, which also means you can’t play it. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

          • Shalashaska

            Not gonna Pirate it but I will wait to buy it. Or if i get it in cheap and not full price, then i’ll go for it early..

          • Mr.Pony

            Of course it isn’t but when studios stop listening to their public what is there left in order to send a message out? It is much more “cruel” to pirate a game than just not buying it. It sends out a louder message.

          • MichaelPayneV

            Hey, let’s not jump on @Nyxus:disqus now, let’s not forget that he has a responsibility, that even is he agrees with us pirating it (Hypothetically speaking) he won’t say, i mean i won’t say it, because if i would have a website and i would say it, who would Konami go After, guess who, ME, the Admin of the Website, and since they would would know who i am, they could even go as far as taking me, The Admit, to the Court, and having to pay lost of money to Konami for encouraging masses to do something illegal!

            Do you understand that just by talking about Piracy on his website, we put him in Danger, Court Danger?

          • Shalashaska

            True plus.. i dont think pirating would be fair to kojima. I LOVE Kojima but Hate konami right now ..
            And yes @nyxus, we love you buddy, dont go to jail.. who gonna give us the awesome news then ? 😀

          • Daniele Andreuzzi

            Kojima already got paid, he won’t get money based on game’s sales

          • Doesn’t mean he won’t dislike it if the game gets pirated.

          • MichaelPayneV

            If he left in Good Terms, he won’t, but if it was not, it could actually make him happy, but so far it seems that it was in good terms, if it wasn’t, Hideo would have been all over the Internet dissing Konami!

          • Mr.Pony

            This is civil argument, just making my point, I’m not jumping on @Nyxus. As for his position i really won’t dwell on it but if it was me i would have to act in a diplomatic way regardless of personal opinion. Yet as a member, and a non-admi/mod one has the liberty to express one’s opinion (still totally respecting the position of those in charge of the site). I understand that this is a hot topic and I don’t want to see the site to suffer on a conversation on the double edge knife of pros and cons of piracy. Having that said i rest my case on the “Piracy as a message to corporation”.

          • MichaelPayneV

            Yes, i know you didn’t jump on him, but some people on here were about to, even i was until i started thinking how much harm would it do to this Website, and to Nyxus!

          • No Place For Hayter

            Whoops, lol kind of like my comment, >.> Though my comment was simply talking about the nature of piracy and those who use it, not whether it is good or bad or should be used or not.

            EDIT: I put a disclaimer in my comment to Nyxus, lol, just to ward off any piracy genies 🙂

          • No Place For Hayter

            Pirating has its uses. For example if you can’t actual get a hold of the game any other way, or if you aren’t willing to shell out the full 60$ unless you know you will like the game, so you pirate it so see if its worth it, than you go out and buy it.

            Also most pirates would never buy the game in the first place, so piracy only serves to expand the player base and spread the knowledge of your game further, pirating will hardly hurt the sales of games at all, because most people who pirate the game never intended to buy it and that is why they pirated it. But if your game is pirated by someone who likes it a lot they can decide to go and buy it, but the pirated it because there were not going to buy it in the first place, so pirating can increase the sales of a game in the long run as it would introduce many people into the game whom would never consider paying for the game in the first place. Pirating gives the “Looks kind of interesting but I’m not going to go buy it” crowd a way to play the game for free, and it turns out much better than they thought and so they go and buy it, and if they don’ like it they don’t buy which means you don’t even lose a sale because they weren’t going to buy it in the first place.

            Most people have a picture of piracy that goes like this “Evil guy wants a game really badly and is rich, but instead of buying the game he goes and steals a physical copy from a store because he is cheap and want to keep every penny he has” which could not be further from the truth, most pirates don’t have the money or don’t have the means, or want to test it before purchase, or simply want to pass the time playing something they never would have bought in the first place. And this of course gets more people to play the game, and thus gets more people talking about and spreading the word about the quality of the game. Also pirates don’t take any physical copies and thus they do not deprive any company of possible sales because they pirate a copy of the game not a physical original which could have been sold to someone else.

            As much as I want to get into the legality of pirating and all that ridiculous legal stuff, I’m not going to lol, just wanted to cover when pirating is actually used and why.

          • Digital versions are copies as well, the intellectual property. What you’re paying for isn’t necessarily the disc and case, that’s just the carries. You pay for the years of work people invested in it, and that’s also what you take for free if you pirate it.

            Also, you hear the argument ‘they wouldn’t have bought it anyway’ a lot, but that’s essentially the same as stepping onto a train saying ‘it will ride anyway’. At the end of the day a game will only have success if people pay for it. Games that are pirated can only continue to exist because there are also enough people willing to pay for it.

          • No Place For Hayter

            Agreed, no argument there, was just saying who pirated and why, they aren’t evil people in any way, though I’m sure some are, lol.

        • solideater

          Well for me…Steam Sale Here I Come!. Also Pirating doesn’t solve anything it only enforces stronger DRM and more micro-transactions

      • Shalashaska

        its not ok. this is bullshit.

        • MichaelPayneV

          Indeed, we feel “The Phantom Pain” of Traditional Single Player experiences without Micro Transactions, we need to get it back!

    • At Konami HQ:
      >Sir all pre-orders have been canceled
      >Oh so they think they can play a game with us but we won’t be played like a damn fiddle.Gentlemen, we are canceling their game, call Kojima and tell him

      • Shalashaska

        buhaha they will never do that just like no one will ever cancel this game’s preorder. IM SO PISSED AND I STILL think i’ll play this game eventually.

    • Lewis

      Well, “technically” MGO is free-to-play. You pay 60$ for a massive MGSV and get “free” MGO. I think, as long as this micropayments will be cosmetical like hats, skins and other it is okay. Think about it. It is an online game (MGO) and you have to make it profitable one way or another. You can’t give it “for free” and then maintain all the servers and updates for free too.

      • Shalashaska

        1. Mgo works into the main game by the link of motherbase.

        2. If its only MGo, then i can say that its not that bad but

        3. We play Cod or battlefield .. we dont pay for the multiplayer game. The engine is the same, the game is the same. The only difference is that its multiplayer.
        In such a time where we can say that its ok for them to do this because gta nd mgsv gave us great multiplayers. Its wrong, isnt it? The game is still the same…. its just multiplayer. They dont make a whole different story and do it from ground up.. yes they work hard so i aggree they can use cosmetics transactions.. but i highly doubt these guys will stick to only cosmetic..

        • BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

          MGO3 is different from the online, multiplayer aspect of motherbase. They’re two separate entities. Online mother base is linked with single player, MGO3 is not.

          Don’t forget MGO2 also had in-game purchases. You could get extra character slots and map packs. Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto also have similar in-game purchases for their online modes.

          • stagueda

            You are correct Sir, microtransactions are mainly for things like cosmetic things and new different weapons maybe, but one thing is true, MGO3 is not Mother Base from TPP it has been said in interviews that the Single player experience is apart from the MGO experience so that no advantage is given to someone who has already played or finished the campaign against someone who hasn’t played it yet. The motherbase infiltration is a separate situation, although online only your FOB can be attacked not all of your base, if so happened your base could be completely ripped by an experienced player and would be frustrating. if I find the interview i’ll post it.

          • BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

            Yesss. And I vaguely remember some mention, maybe through the MGO twitter, about being able to play MGO matches on players’ FOBs? Almost a level creator, as I took it. But I’m fuzzy on that so correct me if I’m misremembering. But the way it sounds it’s just using the FOB as a map, not interacting with supplies and resources etc like in the multiplayer FOB/Mother Base portion.

          • Shalashaska

            Yea and previewers are saying that MT effect the motherbase which is the main thing for single player.

            want to do cosmetiv stuff for MGO, go ahead.
            Want to make it harder to grow motherbase so that i buy into MT .. NO NO!

          • If it’s only for speeding up then that means we won’t miss anything by not buying them. Who would want to do that anyway?

          • Shalashaska

            yea nyx .. i hope. But if they tweak it to make the grind harder therefore making their MT look good then that will effect it.. i dont mind grinding but i hate the thought of it something effecting a game like this.

        • Totally agree. Don’t mind micro-transactions so much if it’s kept out of the main game (i.e. multiplayer only). That’s how EA killed Dead Space. And Dead Space was so freaking good!

          • solideater

            Well I heard that some journalist who was in preview program when he tried to speed the rate of building mother base he received an error not being able to connect to PSN error. This was in single player soo… Micro transactions in Single Player 🙁

          • JoJo

            True, but this is no different to the Easy Fatality DLC for Mortal Kombat. If you don’t want it, don’t get it.
            I understand that it may “casualise” the game in some peoples’ minds, but unless it gives you an advantage with your FOB (which we don’t know if it does or not) I don’t see the issue.

          • You have a good point, actually. Even if MT’s do feature in the single-player campaign, as long as they’re not essential to progress, they shouldn’t really be a problem. I feel better now lol.

          • Shalashaska

            just so you know..in the final version of mkx.. they tweaked it so people earn slower and their Micro transactions looks sweeter

          • Shalashaska

            Give me one good reason it should exist in a 60$ triple aaa title ?
            Even if its optional, why does is it existt? Are they not charging enough? im sorry i can never be ok with MT even if its optional. I hate the thought of them tweaking the game to make their Mtransactions look sweeter.

          • JoJo

            The reason is, as I said, because it’s optional. I understand your position, but if it’s entirely optional and doesn’t provide an unfair advantage it’s not worth worrying about. If this becomes more and more of a trend, perhaps so, but as of now I just don’t get the fuss.

          • Shalashaska

            That again is NOT A REASON PAYWALLS should exist of any kind. These games cost 60$… tripple aaa titles that make WAY more than their budget.
            I dont understand.. when this started.. people hated it. but they are ok with it now because they have gotten used to it?
            Sooner or later.. it’ll be massive game spoiler and everyone will be used to it or regret when they said these “optional” things are ok. DLCS started this way… now look at them… difficulty levels cut off,alternate endings,costunes

          • JoJo

            It’s not a paywall. A paywall is “you can only get Quiet in the main story if you buy the Collector’s Edition”, in fact some of the camo and gun options ARE behind a paywall for MGSV, at least on launch.

            An OPTIONAL payment that as far as we know gives you NO advantage outside of your own SINGLE-PLAYER experience is not a paywall.

            As I said I understand where you’re coming from and have plenty of DLC/micro-transaction gripes of my own – but they are not withholding any in-game content from you, they are simply (and it hasn’t even been confirmed yet, the build of the game is not the final build and they couldn’t actually see what feature they were trying to access) offering you a way to speed up Mother Base R&D with an optional purchase which you can opt not to buy.
            Also your gripes about spending $60 on a AAA game fall flat for me considering in Australia the cheapest they launch at is about $80 and $100 is the average price.

          • Shalashaska

            Alright, This is where I stand with this.

            But All in all.. I hate the fact that MT have to exist in a CONSOLE GAME that costs 60$+ . It just shouldnt. If they want to turn console gaming into clash of the clans, they should also not charge to play the game and it should be free to play.
            But instead, I think that in a game on a console, MT SHOULD be left out COMPLETELY. Be it cosmetic or not. They can make Dlc and/or keep it in the game for free. There is no need for MTs. This isnt my opinion just for MGSV, its for the industry of gaming in the whole. Every year more and more people get used to MTs and use it, not because its needed. But because they are forced to be okay with it. Their brains are made to believe its ok to have a console game become the next the next clash of clans. So yea.. Im completely against it. I can forgive small things. But where all this seems headed.. i doubt it’ll stay small in the next coming years of gaming.

          • Aww, man. Not sure how to feel about this now. I mean I understand it from a business perspective, but the whole pay-to-play stuff just makes me feel, I dunno, dirty. And sad. Just sad and dirty. Kind of like that homeless guy who lives down the street from me.

          • Shalashaska

            gaming is soon going to be for those who can afford it.

    • Hideo

      To be fair, i remember EA did the same thing in Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, its co-op, not competetive though
      Dont want to say that this is ok, but It is already happening.

      • WhatTheJuicay

        I prefer the way Rockstar does it. I bet they are sitting back laughing at the people who complain about a feature that doesnt force you to buy it. Cash Cards. Though they are non traditional micro-transactions, they are unnecessary to the fan who plays GTAO daily. I used to play daily, it was my main multiplayer game, stil is, but cash cards only enable you to get money faster. Sure they could adjust the pricing and better convert it into appropriate GTA $$. I have no problem with micro transactions that only gives you things that you can achieve by playing regularly.

        If someone doesnt have time to play the game as often and catch up to get the latest things that seems exciting to them, then I’m all for micro transactions that enable them to do so. They’re trading their hard earned money for time gaming (for lack of a better term).. Same way [some] gamers trade their valuable time to play videogames hours on end (guilty!!!), while they could be working a 2nd job or something to make more money and their lives fulfilling. Just my insight on the issue.

      • Shalashaska

        I know.. and its getting worse by every new game that comes out

    • Ozzman

      You’re comment was awesome, agree with every single word u wrote. We have to not pay any dollar in game purchase system!

    • No Place For Hayter

      *Nods head in agreement*

    • ThreeMadFrogs

      It’s optional.

      • Shalashaska

        i say this again. STILL NOT any good reason why greedy tactics like this should be supported.

  • Gordon Freeman

    I think this will just be mainly MGO stuff.

    + It doesnt say microtransactions anywhere. I believe it will be mostly stuff like this:

    • MichaelPayneV

      If the feature is nowhere to be found when i open MGSV:TPP.exe but only when i open MGO3.exe, then i will be tolerable, but if i find it in MGSV:TPP.exe or how is it called, i will go Nuclear!

    • Shalashaska

      MGO works in hand with MGSV so even thought we think its okay.. its not, they’ll still mess up becasue the GMP in the end of the day is for mother base and mother base is a part of both MGO and the campaign.

  • Ravenous

    Now I’m rather dissapointed, I tried making a case this to not be true just to give Konami the benefit of the doubt yesterday, but ofcourse it turns out to be true :

    If it is completely optional, I don’t have any problem with it, but if they lock certain content behind these micro-transactions, I’ll be sure to not bother buying any more games from them…DLC is one thing if it’s done the way ARMA3 does it, but if done the COD-way, they arwn’t getting a penny from me. Micro-transactions? Never seen that implemented as anything other than a shameless and petty cash-grab so far, so we’ll see.

    • Shalashaska

      dude.. yesterday i posted pictures of it in new triple aaa games.. check that out. cant post pics now..

      • Ravenous

        Yeah, I saw them, and I think it’s pathetic of the big publishers to use mobile-tactics to try to squeeze every last penny out of us like that. Or atleast I HOPE that BS is forced onto games by their publishers rather than the developers themselves O.o

        I’m not very hopeful, but here’s to Konami taking the high-road with DLC and doing them justice like Bohemia’s ARMA3: actual content, optional, but absolutely worth their pricetags because of the quality and type of content they add.
        *Laughs at himself and the fool’s hope as he clicks ‘post’*

        • Shalashaska

          Im just going to calm down and reserve my anger for the day this game comes out. If the transactions are everywhere like they do in the forza game.. then i’ll just wait before i pick it up..

  • MichaelPayneV

    Hey @Nyxus:disqus, i really want to know, where you stand on this, do you think we should blindly ignore a feature that may be shoved in our throats, by giving us less GMP for missions the the Press got in the Previews, just like it happened with the MKX Preview, thus force us to us a “Optional feature” or we should call Konami and basically the Gaming Industry on their BS, and take attitude?

    • Everyone should decide for themselves what they want to do. But probably most people will still feel the game is worth supporting, because it looks like it will be a truly amazing game that is already packed with content, and besides, these microtransactions can probably be ignored completely (especially if it’s just stuff like speeding up base development time).

      • Javier

        Maybe it’s to develop instantly all kind of items, like guns or suits. So you don’t have to play a lot to have the better items. And maybe there will be exclusive paid items.

        • MichaelPayneV

          And all tough you don’t realize, what you just did is Damage control for Konami, i mean come on, for Konami, for our enemy, for “Zero, Cipher”?

          • Javier

            I’m not okay with that. That’s pay to win. I’m not ok even with the dlcs

          • MichaelPayneV

            That’s much better!

      • MichaelPayneV

        “Everyone should decide for themselves what they want to do.”

        Looks like you’re keeping it Diplomatic with us, and at the same time encourage us to give Konami Money.

        Well, 1 thing for sure, is that you know how to chose your words, in case sh*t goes down, to defend yourself, i like that, you are indeed professional, that’s all i’ll say!

      • Elmatoor

        Greg Miller was asked about microtransactions for speeding up base development time. He did not see anything. He felt it did not take that much time to bulld.

        If the microtransactions are for speeding it can be ignored. I’m still going to buy the game on day one (have a preorder on the Collector’s Edition) I will ignore the microtransactions since it is bullshit.

    • WrongDirectionZ

      What we need is some clearity from Konami!

      • korruption

        What the CEO of Konami needs is several shoes thrown at his face.

        • WrongDirectionZ

          😀 Right. Several shoes, computers, containers etc…..

          • MichaelPayneV

            Cardboard Boxes, Expired Rations etc.

          • WrongDirectionZ

            Yeahh, you know what iam talking about ^^

        • stagueda

          Do not forget hardened Calorie Mate’s

  • kirtanloorii

    You know, I actually not that worried about it. I think it’s mostly going to be for online features. I am going to reserve judgment for later.

    • MichaelPayneV

      I hope you do realize that what your doing now is nothing more than Damage Control, right?

      • kirtanloorii

        I saw you say that before on someone else’s comment. It not damage control, It’s me making up my own mind. We know that there will be some form of micro-transactions, but I am going to wait until I know exactly what they are trying to sell before I decide what I think of this. That does not mean I accept it, it just means that I am waiting for clarification.

        • MichaelPayneV

          O.K., in that case, let’s hope is BS!

        • Maurycy Zarzycki

          Fully agreed. People love to jump to conclusions (and often stick to them even if they turn out to be false). Like you I’ll reserve my judgement until more information is available.

  • Boldizar

    The only way to circumvent the horrible delay in the annoying R&D feature will be to pay… ugh.

    I hope it is actually online for MGO. I do not want to see sales pitches and dollar signs in the middle of playing my game.

  • Shalashaska

    Ok, had this been PS2 and you guys had to pay for special camos in MGS 3 rather than be able to earn them through playing the game.. how would that be ? :/
    Im just going to hope this MCTransactions thing isnt a game spoiler and its nothing major and just some REALLY REALLY OPTIONAL stuff… DAMN YOU KONAMI!

    • WrongDirectionZ

      This would be so bad if they sell camos and other content through this microtransaction bulls**t.
      I don´t wanna feel disadvantaged just becourse i didn´t bought this or that. Or even item for costumization…. This should all be in the game we´ve already payed for!

      But iám okay with that speed up motherbase stuff cuz its not a real advantage and i wont buy it anyway

      • Shalashaska

        Yea thats why im hoping its only for the speed up stuff and other small stuff.. if even one camo is gonna be MT exclusive, I WILL EXPLODE.

        • WrongDirectionZ

          The thing is… They know how cool MGS camos are, and we the players go crazy about camos (positively). And if they use this to crap money, than good sir, you can see the smoke of my explosion from your localisation!

          • MichaelPayneV

            We will all go Nuclear, this may as well be WW2…of the Gaming Industry, the second Video Game Revolution!

  • stagueda

    Hopefully it’s just MP Stuff like The Last Of Us, for Foward Operating Base most likely, which is normal and understandable from a economic point of view… in my opinion it sucks.

  • Ralexion

    Really hope this is only about MGO stuff (cosmetics, also that XP Boost that you get from the collectors edition fits right into the microT spot) and stuff like that, even if something bleeds out into the singleplayer campaing (uniforms and re-skins? again, you get DLC uniforms, re-skins for the ballistic shield and for the box that fit right into microTs from the Co. Edition). Thats okay by me, if I see a piece of camo that I like for MGO or something of that nature, ill probably buy it. That also goes for singleplayer-FOB uniforms and emblems as well…

    But, well, if we go into “unique weapons” (the Cods edition has two, I believe…) territory, or “create shit for your singleplayer Mother Base instantly” F2P mobile game boosters stuff, yeah, im calling terrible BS on those. If thats the case, its something that doesnt bode well for me, nor something I would like to see in this “holy ark” MGSV will probably be for me. What a taint, really. But anyways, at the end of the day, microTs are something totally ignorable-like (played a lot of F2P already) and I doubt anything of that nature could ruin MGSV gameplay.

    BTW, this brings to my memory that they said something about “if you are building something in your Mother Base and use a Phantom Cigar, the building process will go as fast as Big Boss’s altered perception of time” in certain showcased gameplay. So, yeah, im guessing and really hoping that its only something usable in FOBs.

  • BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

    If anything I would say it’s for Metal Gear Online 3. There were also in-game purchases in MGO2 where you could buy additional character slots and new map packs and such. Don’t forget that MGO is a part of MGSV and they would have to list content for ESRB and stuff like in-game purchases for it as well as if it’s all one game.

    • MichaelPayneV

      That’s a good point, if it has nothing to do with GMP for Single Player or to buy extra Camo’s that you should be able to discover in the world, it will be just, fine.

  • Quiet, missions or others characters as DLCs…
    “Did you miss DD? No worries, purchase it in the store… lolololol”

    Things like these, if this happens, i will think about buying or not the game.

    I don’t care about unlockable content, things that you can unlock playing the game as DLC, but not new stuff that you only can see if purchasing in the store…
    As much i would download maps and stuff for MGO3, but not for the story.

  • kirtanloorii

    Let’s all take a moment to honor and thank Sir Christopher Lee for the work he has done. Yet another legendary and iconic actor has left us, and I feel a little empty now. All of my childhood friends are leaving.

    • Requiescat In Pace.

    • VenomSnake1974

      So true… I can hardly imagine watching a Tim Burton movie without him. This is definitely sad 🙁

    • Ol’ Jack Burton

      RIP, old boy.

    • Le Guy who drowned quiet

      We’ll I hated when he was killed in Star Wars ep3 by whiny an anakin

    • Gatsu

      Whaaat ;O…oh no this cant be happening ;(…

  • kuaikukia

    If this is for MGO, then I feel ok. Hope they clarify as soon possible

  • Kol Leqejza

    who cares for microtransactions? digital version ftw!!! 🙂

  • Kol Leqejza

    who cares about crappy microtransactions?! digital version FTW!!! 🙂

  • Old Liquid

    Just noticed the “MSGV” typo in the title.

  • Tanooki

    Ha Ha! It’s like they want me to hate him. We all know Kojima wouldn’t have gone along with this and this is all Konami’s doing. I’m still buying this game no matter what but it’s lame that not even Metal Gear is safe from micro-transactions.

  • Jack Moon

    Well, there goes MGSV’s chance of becoming game of the year…Konami strikes again.

  • FOX

    İ wont appear at PSN EU. Any info on game’s size?

  • PrinceHeir

    I don’t mind if its just skins and hats like Uncharted 3.

    But if it gives people some sort of advantage like faster development time in R&D, Better Weapons, Better recruits then we have a problem.

    One thing i would want them to put are older MGS characters either new characters or old skins from existing characters.

    I want Young Ocelot and Liquid Ocelot as well as Solid Snake and Old Snake etc.

    This is the last MGS game by Kojima, might as well go all in for the franchise.

  • Gatsu

    Im happy to finally see it on PSN :D, already got physical preordered but its just awesome to see it in the store xD. Now just need it for Steam so can preorder again and buy for brothers too!

  • invader_skoodge

    KONAMI sure knows how to derail the HYPE TRAIN. I was so exited with the preview info and the news that Kojima will edit a new trailer for E3 but they had to fuck it up. Now I no longer feel the hype so much because I’ll be constantly thinking what features are going to be behind a paywall and if the whole experience is gong to cost more money than the retail price. This is bullshit. I hope the new trailer keeps my mind off of this.

    http://www.mad4posters.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/7/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/2/1/2148_6.jpg

  • 223hzy

    Anyone knows how this function works in other game? I saw on PSN that the description of Dead or Alive has the same ‘in-game purchases optional’. Does it just mean the DLC in DoA?

    • korruption

      Mostly shitloads of lazily made/copy-pasted and excessively overpriced DLC costumes. No microtransactions that I know of.

      • 223hzy

        That’s kinda comforting to hear. I also checked the page for The Last of Us, which also has the line ‘in-game purchases optional’. But obviously, the things we can spend real money on in The Last of Us are DLCs for multiplayer.

        • korruption

          I’m probably one of the more cynical posters here, but I’m prepping for a sigh of relief.

  • Kojimaphile

    Although while I’ll agree that microtransactions are terrible, lets remember that they are completely optional, and that if it is just a “time saver” like shown in recent Assassin’s Creed games or say Clash of Clans, they are hardly something to get crazy about.

    If a couple twelve-year-olds want to use mommy’s credit card to speed up motherbase because they are impatient little shits, all the power to them. It doesn’t affect me one bit. This business practice isn’t going away any time soon (don’t give me that “vote with your wallet” bullshit) so my advice: ignore it. It’s hardly an issue.

  • Brou3D

    1080p on PlayStation 3! OH GOD <3

    • Alberto Sánchez

      Really weird, and even more after we have known that Ground Zeroes on PS3 runs sub-HD and with tons and tons of popping. I guess what we can read in that description is just a mistake.

    • FOX

      They mean upscaled to 1080p 🙂

  • Datguy8923

    Reeks of the business suits from Konami HQ.

    Honestly you’re just robbing yourself of the experience of slowly building something to perfection.

  • Josiah Rinenburgh

    So bummed about this… Bummed enough to not buy the game. I absolutely love these games, and I never, ever leave comments here even though I’m on the site all the time, but I have to get this out there. I’m starting a petition, please sign it with me. Sure, it will probably do nothing, but it’s worth it to me to try. I can’t believe something like this could happen to ruin the autonomy of Metal Gear—the sovereignty of its experience. It’s actually very sad.

    https://www.change.org/p/konami-publishers-no-microtransactions-in-metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-or-at-all-for-that-matter

  • Well MGO2 had “microtransactions” as well like a $9.00USD pack of 20 different phrases.. what a deal!! or a character slot

    • WhatTheJuicay

      those were actually expansions. GENE, MEME, SCENE were expansions, and the codec packs were DLC. It’s pretty specific. The extra characters I would consider the closest thing to micro transactions but the cost wasnt so micro.

  • TheGame1083

    for those in US, is there a way to get the TPP theme and then cancel the Pre-Order? I already have the physical game pre ordered I jjst want the theme

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