A small bit of info on Zero’s presence in MGSV: The Phantom Pain

As we have known for a while, Jim Piddock (who did the voice of Zero in MGS3) was originally approached by Konami for Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, but he turned it down because their offer was too low. In an episode of ‘The Codec’ he talked about it some more.

Jim Piddock said Konami’s justification for the low offer is that his character (Zero) won’t be seen as much in the game, but mostly heard (probably trough cassette tapes, given The Phantom Pain’s method of storytelling). When Yong asked if we won’t see Zero at all, Piddock once again said we won’t see the character ‘that much’.

Zero-the-Patriot

“The will that The Boss envisioned will finally become a reality, and it will make mankind whole again.”

So it looks like Zero will be mostly behind the scenes in this game, but this suggests we also may get an actual look at the character at least once. In the E3 2015 trailer we hear a character speak that is very likely to be Zero, now with a new voice.

Source: The Codec (thanks Tong Ninja)

  • MrVux007

    Im 100% on his side,even before Konami began to be hated by the community,i completely understood him

    • The good news is: the new voice is awesome! Jim Piddock probably would have done a great job as well, but at least we got a good replacement.

      • MrVux007

        Yea,the new voice is really convincing…

        • Xomak

          The new voice sounds like Jason Isaacs, I hope it’s him!

          • MichaelPayneV

            I have a feeling is Gray Oldman, this New Zero sounds just like him.

          • Tong Ninja

            So from previous and recent articles, the community predictions for the new replacement for Zero are:

            Jason Isaacs, Gary Oldman, David Bowie and Conleth Hill.

            Any other guesses? haha

          • MichaelPayneV

            Nolan North.

          • Preston M Simpson

            I say Alan Rickman or Jeremy Irons as Zero would be epic.

        • Code Talker sounds really good as well.

          • Code Talker has a great voice. And Zero sounds fucking awesome too.

          • I think code talker is going to be one of my favorite characters. Cool that he was vega in the street fighter movie ha

          • Tong Ninja

            Code Talker has a powerful voice. Full of wisdom too. 🙂

            I think he will have a lot of philosophical quotes in TPP.

      • Javier

        And cheaper, thank u Jim.

    • Tong Ninja

      Everybody be hating Konami! XD haha

      Yes I agree as well, voice actors should be paid fairly.

  • Mini gear

    what a jolly chap

  • Cobra Commander

    That doesn’t make any sense?
    Just because Zero wouldn’t be SEEN as much is why he was low-balled?
    Don’t voice actors usually get paid for their voice work?
    Unless it has something to do with less mocap equals less money.

    • That’s probably the case (facial capturing in addition to the voice work requires more work).

    • Tong Ninja

      Also less dialogue compared to characters like Big Boss/Ocelot/ etc. Zero might only have a few cassette tapes worth of dialogue.

      Less dialogue = less pay

      • Kol Leqejza

        maybe he got the same offer than the new guy, but was more greedy. cos V is being super hyped.

        • Tong Ninja

          Yeah, so when Piddock turned down the offer, the new replacement must of gotten the same offer as well. The new guy was willing to play Zero at that low salary.

          I believe Piddock was approached first, then the replacement after Piddock refused.

        • MichaelPayneV

          Same here, and you can see that he was indeed greedy about it, as he revealed the presence of hi character to the first person asking him on twitter, and be a d*k about, instead of being a little more diplomatic like Davit Hayter!

          • Le Guy who drowned quiet

            Yes

  • Solidus Türk

    Afghanistan is a big place.

    • Andrea Feletti

      What took you so long? :p

      • Aleezy

        Kaz it’s me.. I’m here to get you out.

        • MichaelPayneV

          Snake?

    • silentspeed13

      I expect you to become real familiar with those binoculars to plan your next move.

      • MichaelPayneV

        How and when you make, well that’s up to you!

        • Cristian

          Now go, live the legend come back to life!

          • MichaelPayneV

            Neeeeeeeyhaaaaaaaaa!

          • asdasdfd

            MGS GOES OPEN WORLD!

          • MichaelPayneV

            New breed of Stealth.

          • Super Sleuth

            Dynamic weather!

          • Ozzman

            Haaaaa haaaaaa (sins of father)

          • Le Guy who drowned quiet

            Realistic passage of time

          • Ozzman

            Let the legend back to life!

          • Jason Mounce

            WHOOOOOOOOOOOAAAA OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!

      • Ozzman

        …and return as Big Boss!
        How and when you make it… well… that’s up to you…
        Now GO… Let the legend come back to life…
        Hiiiiiiii Hiiiiiiii Hi Hi Hi

    • Arestras

      Kept you waiting, huh?

      • akumetsu

        alguien podria preguntar o saber si sacaran algun video de comparacion de la versiones de antigua generacion con la de nueva generacion ? in MGS V TPP

    • It’s not just them. the whole world wants you dead!

      • Preston M Simpson

        Good news is you’re in the land of the living. The bad news is the whole world wants you dead.

        • On your feet soldier the whole place is coming down!

          • Mini gear

            We gave her a light… She took the short way down

          • Need a little pick me up?!

          • Mini gear

            Call me ishmael

          • drugs not working?!

          • Mini gear

            Stairs… Alright we’ll take the elevator

          • Le Guy who drowned quiet

            Cypher sent us to hell but were going deeper and take back everything we’ve lost

          • Shalashaska

            You know you guys all forgot the ending. That was every fan going like this :

            http://gifstumblr.com/images/mind-blowing_1454.gif

    • Super Sleuth

      Dynamic weather

    • Big Boss

      WTF?

  • Ryan Locke

    I would have loved top have the original major tom! Hearing the same voice from mgs3 would have been so worth the extra money spend on that voice actor in my opinion. It would have made it very believable and authentic. I do like the new voice actor, but he doesn’t hold a candle to the original.
    Konami is really losing my interest.

    • Really? The new Zero sounded great in the new trailer, perhaps even better than the original. Or at least more fitting for this role, as he sounds a little less ‘jolly’.

      • SNKtheStampede

        I agree with Nyxus. Aside from the fact that I found the new voice the best of all mgs voices in history, but that’s personal, I think that’s also more fitting for the New and Different zero we’ll have on tpp. Even the simple fact that has this metallic tone… just what i expect from Cypher. By the way I loved Jim Paddock’s zero and I’m conscious that the new one wouldn’t have fit as well as him in MGS3.

      • Vegas

        As the series become darker, Big Boss and Zero’s voices become darker too, more menacing. David Hayter never sounded like a threat when he interrogated a soldier, and Zero as you said was too jolly to be a mastermind, he was more like a wise educated guy. I think the change was for the best.

      • Gatsu

        I totally agree with ya Nyx :D.

      • Ryan Locke

        That may be, he does sound great. But I think the old zeros voice doing evil things would really bring a cringing feeling to all of our stomachs, for the sole reason he sounds jolly. We would be forced to picture the zero from mgs3 turned into this new evil zero, and given the same voice this realization would be more solidified.

      • Cosima Caminades

        Completely agree. I seriously prefer the new voice actor, even though I was bummed when I heard Paddock was not going to be in TPP.

    • Tong Ninja

      In the interview, Piddock said the new replacement will be fine. He holds no grudges against the replacement. He also said he can name 30 other British actors who can do Zero just as well or as interestingly as his.

  • flying_fox

    Every job needs to be correctly paid, and it was his right to decline… But I still think it’s a damn shame for him to have turned down the offer. Does he even realize that this could have been his greatest role in voice acting?

    Anyway… Looks like we will not — or barely — see Zero in TPP, as I expected. A phantom character, like Moby-Dick.

    • Tong Ninja

      From his recent interview, Jim said when he did voiceover work for Zero, it was just another job to him. He didn’t realise how much impact Zero had on the fans until Yong told him haha.

      Jim Piddock was pretty funny in the interview, he was hating on Konami as well XD

      • glitchbomb

        Showed his ass and everything.

        • Tong Ninja

          That was in another interview, but was very funny nonetheless. XD

  • MrVux007

    Good choice Kaz!

    • Nolan North, Troy Baker and Robin Atkin Downes in one game. Awesome!

      • MrVux007

        Trio fantastico!

      • Gatsu

        That is really incredible VA team 😀 !

        • Preston M Simpson

          Didn’t Robin Atkin Downes or Troy Baker also perform in Uncharted 2? I feel like RAD was the mocap for that guy in Tibet. And then Troy Baker stars in The Last of Us.

          • CodeBox

            Robin has been in every Uncharted, he was: Atoq Navarro in Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune, he did the Mo-cap for Tenzin in Uncharted 2 and was the Awesome Talbot in Uncharted 3.
            This will be the first Uncharted that Troy Baker is in, but he was Joel in the Last of Us, Robin played Robert in the Last of Us and Nolan North played David in the Last of Us.
            Love all these voice actors, all amazing at what they do.

      • Cosima Caminades

        Just like in The Last of Us.

      • Cobra Commander

        If that floats your boat, same thing is happening for Uncharted 4.
        Can’t wait for that game either!
        The next year is going to be pretty hot for current gen consoles.
        Anyone see the vid for Ghost Recon Wildlands?
        Went under my radar till a couple days ago. Looks pretty sweet, but the finished product is anyones guess. (Ubisoft has been having some problems with downgraded final products these last couple years).

    • Plissken

      But the real question is, will his character be played like a damn fiddle?

    • Tong Ninja

      He was in Uncharted 1, 2 and 3 as well!
      No surprise he will play another character in the upcoming one. 😀

  • Alex

    New voice way better in my opinion, and really fits with the kind of character he is now compared to MGS3. That one line alone already felt way more 3-dimensional than anything he ever said in 3. And also fits with Big Boss having a new voice.

  • Cipher

    not much,huh ? :((

    • Mauricio Acosta

      Aw it’s ok, I’ll wink the screen every time you are on if it makes you feel better 😉

  • MichaelPayneV
    • MrVux007

      i agree with Nathan and Master Chief…but you could have chosen much better character besides T-800 for steam/PC…like Jim Raynor from starcraft,that guy is a badass…even tho the whole idea wont happen 😀

      • MichaelPayneV

        No offense, but no one beats “Pops”, no one beats Old Bulky Huge Arnold!
        https://fairbanksonfilm.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/terminator-genisys-tv-spots-arnold-schwarzenegger-header.jpg

        Why the T-800 for PC? Well, like PC, he is a machine, and Hideo is apparently a big Terminator Fan (even the sound made by the knife in MGS3 is the Terminator theme)

        • Boldizar

          But what does he have to do with PC. It doesn’t make sense.

          • Because “it’s a machine” -_-

          • glitchbomb

            LOL

          • MichaelPayneV

            Because like a PC, he is upgradable, he can have either more muscles (RAM), be slimmer and faster (CPU) or look better (GPU) depending on the T-800.

            There is even a T-850 (Laptop) so here’s that.

          • MrVux007

            A common mistake,muscle tissue has little to no impact on terminators performance(it was more ussed as an way to blend into the society),all the brute strength he had comes from his skeleton(and his core),also his architecture wasnt compatible with other terminator counterparts,meaning he couldn’t use other parts from other machines(that arent the same model as he is)…he could however get smarter over time(information collecting),for example T-800 from Terminator 2 was an expert in Surgery(all the kinds of surgery)making him a more efficient killer…and also a really good choice if you ever need stiching up 😀 ….so he is more of an console then an PC (IMO)

          • MichaelPayneV

            I know that, the T-800 Guardian aka Pops is as powerful as the original young T-800, no need to nitpick a joke!

          • MrVux007

            ???

          • MichaelPayneV

            IF you want to go technical, then the T-800 is neither PC nor Console, but a Tablet!

          • MrVux007

            ahhaahahha

    • Ozzman

      My choices:
      Kratos (instead of DWalker)
      Lara Croft (instead of Quiet)
      Okami (instead of DDog)
      Jolly Jumper (DHorse)

      I wish Batmobile was in there too!! Haha

      • glitchbomb

        Amaterasu? That would be neat?

      • Le Guy who drowned quiet

        Boba fett

      • angeliquedevive

        Aah that batmobile in arkham knight. *drool*

    • Swinny UK

      Screw Nathan Drake, I want Kratos!!!!
      🙂

      • MichaelPayneV

        I think he will be too OP, while Drake is a vulnerable Action Hero, like John McClane and Indiana Jones!

        This is also why i’m team Big Boss, as he is the most Human and realistic and Vulnerable Snake, while also the most Bad Ass Snake.

  • Tommy Murphy

    Hate to say it, because Snake Eater is tied with MGS1 for me as the best in the series, and I loved Jim Piddocks voice in it…

    But for me, Zero’s new voice actor has nailed! From the age, to the tone of the voice, and the fact that it’s slightly menacing! I love the new voice

    • Mauricio Acosta

      I think his voice actor is Varys from Game of Thrones. He has that same way of speaking.

      • Tong Ninja

        Conleth Hill is the actor for Varys, for the people who don’t watch Games Of Thrones. 🙂

  • Vegas

    Zero appearing on screen for me is 99% confirmed just by hearing his voice… does it look like a recording to you guys? All recordings have that “cassette tape” kinda sound, but that part does not. He will probably appear at least for Ocelot, i presume.

    • True, although they could have just left out the filter for the trailer.

      • Vegas

        I considered that too, but the way he spoke was rather… simplified. Its hard to explain, but usually the cassette tapes take their time to explain every piece of information, the conversations last and they speak in a slower pace. But Zero spoke like he was trying to be direct and make an impression, wich is closer to what a cutscene try to show (except MGS4 xD). I know they could’ve just cut out the middle of his speech, maybe its just my hopes 😛

        • WhatTheJuicay

          Well yea its possible. He said most scenes are audio tapes, not ALL. So you may be right.

    • What’s Ugly and Eats Ham?

      Dude half the crap you hear in the trailers are probably tape recordings. They don’t have to overlay it with the cassette tape sound if they don’t want to.

      • Vegas

        I don’t think so. If you take a look at the tapes from PW and GZ, they reeeally take their time to talk. In the trailer, they sound more fast paced and trying to make an impression, phrases that would fit a scene with facial expressions. “When people unite, the sum of their strenghs..” “His language, his identity, his face… everything was taken from him”. “And then… it shall be free”.

  • Rikimaru

    Its sad how the company that is behind one of the most successful franchises has given the cold shoulder to the people that gave their best for it, like David, Kojima, Jim.

    PS: My bad if I’m forgetting someone :O

  • Gatsu

    Really loving the new voice :), although Jim is amazing too!
    I’m quite sure Zero will appear in TPP, perhaps near the end :). But will mostly hear him through cassette tapes.

    I wonder if Zero is speaking through a cassette tape in this mirror scene, when Big Boss suddenly raise his head:
    https://youtu.be/B0W3xRgr70E?t=218

    • Xomak

      Eh? This scene/dialogue you’re referring to, I thought that was Ocelot speaking.

    • JoJo

      That’s Troy Baker/Ocelot speaking at that point.

      • That is how it is edited in the trailer, but it could be different in the game itself.

      • Gatsu

        I know but I believe in the game it’s a different character, just because it is Troy in the trailer doesn’t mean he’s the one in the game at that scene.

        • JoJo

          Oh sorry now I understand what you meant. I was incredibly sleep deprived.

  • Major Ocelot

    Eh, his loss. I enjoyed his voice work in MGS3 but I don’t think his voice/tone would suit a dark game such as MGSV or the state Zero is in this game.

  • Joaquin Romero Victorica

    #Neverforget

  • Joaquin Romero Victorica

    Uzumaki manga creator was in touch with Kojima To work in Silent Hills
    He is one of the most popular Horror mangaka in japan
    Konami destroyed What could be the next gen masterpiece Horror experience

    • No Place For Hayter

      Are you serious? That guy does some of the only horror that really disturbs me, the guy is amazing, if he was in contact with Kojima that REALLY SUCKS, because Silent Hills would have been a much greater value of true disturbing nightmare inducing horror than what most people are used to, it would end up being the only game I would call a “Horror” game.

      • Joaquin Romero Victorica

        Here you go my fellow diamond soldier
        Let the Tears drop for the last time

    • Gatsu

      Yeah Uzumaki is awesome.

    • MeLand127

      Yup, the story is very build up to the climax too. hm, I just don’t really like the ending though.. no resolution to the character ;(

    • glitchbomb

      You are fucking kidding…….
      I did not think I could get more depressed about the death of that game. Fuck.

  • No Place For Hayter

    Is it a normal thing for Konami to pay next to nothing for voice acting, if I remember correctly this isn’t the first time someone was not satisfied at all with their pricing. Also honestly what a bunch of tools, how much can you not care about the game? Try to hire the same voice actor as before but he says you aren’t paying him enough, so you move on and screw someone else with the price? Honestly would it be that hard to pay the guy a little more money you stingy twats? Apparently it is, so they dropped him like a bad habit and got someone else.

    That being said the new voice of Zero is a great voice and fits very well, but that doesn’t change the obnoxious attitudes and corporate thinking sunk into the games voice acting payment and selection.

    • Boldizar

      I love the idea that since a voice actor’s character model isn’t present, that somehow means they can get paid less. This isn’t physical acting, the amount of work is the same.

    • Le Guy who drowned quiet

      I think it’s mr piddock who is money minded here and I’m not the only one to think about that

      • No Place For Hayter

        That is what I thought it might be at first, but this is not the first time people were not happy with Konami’s pricing.

  • Boldizar

    I love the idea that since a voice actor’s character model isn’t present, that somehow means they can get paid less. This isn’t physical acting, the amount of work is the same.

    Nice logic.

    • Unless they’re comparing it with an actor who also has to do facial and motion capture. That’s not to say they weren’t paying too little, but that could have been the logic behind it.

  • The more I think about this. Damn it Yong, you made him spoil the presence of Zero in the game for me. Knowing damn well he doesn’t have a NDA about the little info he did have. Don’t you want anything to be a surprise? I don’t know man… I’m kinda upset now…

    • MeLand127

      Same

    • No Place For Hayter

      Well Zero was in the trailer so if you saw the trailer he didn’t spoil anything, but if you didn’t than yeah, lol.

      • I knew he was going to be in it “physically” not just in cassette tapes, but I wanted to go into the phantom pain with the assumption that I’d see more of Zero more 🙁 this news just breaks my heart.

        • Well who knows what changed since Piddock declined the role.

          • Hopefully sir, I need Zero in my life. I need answers dammit!

        • Melyssa

          Well, now go into The Phantom Pain wondering *when*, *where* and *how* you will see him 😉

          Clutch your seat in every cutscene! “Will I finally see Zero here?”

    • Cmosfbincludestdioh

      Same here i hope to see a lot more of Zero since this is the final metal gear solid

    • Gatsu

      Those are my thoughts a little, but still Jim Piddock can’t be sure how much Zero actually is in the game. He was just told not be seen much, but what do the guys know really when didn’t even accept the role.

      Anyway, I love the interviews but too much info sometimes imo.

  • Aleezy
    • Le Guy who drowned quiet

      Isn’t that old?

      • Le Guy who drowned quiet

        Sorry it’s a new one

  • akumetsu

    alguien podria preguntar o saber si sacaran algun video de comparacion de la versiones de antigua generacion con la de nueva generacion ? in MGS V TPP ?? any one ??

  • glitchbomb

    Random comment. The I was under the impression that the play arts quiet figure was said to have squishy or moveable breasts? Was this something mistranslated or a diff figure? I actually opened the one I got at con and it’s the same material as the rest of the figure. The interesting thing is the breasts are separate peice from the torso so she can lean up so she can snipe while laying down.

  • Off topic of this post but mgs related: I just want to say, With all the unconscious insanity garbage spew on the internet over games, Mgs (imo) has the best fanbase. Thank you all in sharing the love for mgs and the excitement for sep 1. Feel free to add me on psn. Psn name: skidracket.

  • Javier

    And then we are expecting to see zero in person and… it was an IA.

  • Big Boss

    The new voice actor sounds the same if not better than the original one.

    • Lewis

      Totally agree. I think Jim Piddock was the weakest part of the voice cast in Snake Eater. New guy (seems to be Tom Wilkinson, imo) sound waaaay better.

    • NakedSnake85

      Im 99% sure that David Bowie voices zero

  • Sovereign SnaKe

    ~I wouldn’t exactly call this a spoiler, I mean if you think about it, he only ever appears in voice. Then when Boss wheels his (Grandpa from Texas Chainsaw Massacre) near death Corpse out at the end of MGS4 I clutched my pearls. I rather prefer him staying incognito throughout. But I would mind at least one glimpse in The Phantom Pain. 😀

  • Chem

    i have noticed that Zero’s eyes in MGS4 looks like the eyes of Kaz, Code Talker and the Skulls in the trailer

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  • outlawcountry1982

    Unlockable buddy? ?

  • Jason Mounce

    Still makes me wonder if it was Konami ‘seriously’ Low-balling him, or Jim Paddock was being really greedy and demanding more than what he was worth, similar to the whole Iron Man 2 movie actor-change of War Machine, Terrence Howard expected too much and so he was simply replaced by Don Cheadle

  • Shisen

    Hey guys,

    What about David Bowie voicing over Zero, the man who sold the world? 😛

    • NakedSnake85

      yep im preety sure that zero is bowie

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