Kojima: Everything in MGSV: TPP will connect to the cycle of revenge

Kojima has been talking about Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on Twitter, elaborating on how he tried to implement the theme of the ‘cycle of revenge’ in every aspect of the game, not only the story and characters but the gameplay as well.

Good morning, check out MGSV TPP new gameplay demo focusing on FOB system!

In MGSVTPP, if you get shot/seriously injured you’ll get blood all over &stays out till it rains/go to MB for shower!

MGSV-The-Phantom-Pain-Blood-Covered-Snake

Of course, the condition of how much blood you’ll get covered depends on the level of injury, also reflects to following cut scenes.

As it’s difficult to make player feel “Anti war anti nuke” like a movie can do, what I’ve tried was to make something only game can do. In PW, player made military expansion for deterrence & to keep peace. In the end player acquire nuke that lead you loose everything in GZ. In TPP, you plan reuniting your organization to take a revenge to the world as to escape from Phantom Pain that you lost in GZ. I let player to experience the cycle of revenge thru gameplay. What’s waiting after this as a result?

Everything incl. characters, story, game system will connect to the “cycle of revenge”.

Source: Hideo Kojima Twitter

  • FrankWhite

    I hope i´ll never be forced to wear that bulky armor…

    • Chris Estevez

      Of course not, that’s the fun of MGSV. NEVER EVER DOUBT KOJIMA!! You should feel ashamed to question Based Kojima!

    • Javier

      I don’t understand why they did something that big. It could be something like “ironman”. It’s a game, it doesn’t need to be realistic.

      • Raven_Sorrow

        Well the game, series, focus on a tank with legs so why should it be out of place to wear a suit that makes you a tank with legs? XD without joking i liked the battle dress of PW and i think this one is better looking. But sneaking suit FTW!

        • Javier

          I don’t like it, it looks just like a armor against bombs. I don’t know the word.

      • Le Guy who drowned quiet

        I laughed so much when I saw it doesn’t have to be realistic this fucking game has wormholes which are overpowered and shitty and you call this realistic?ha!

        • Javier

          I’m just talking about the body armor, the big one.

          • Le Guy who drowned quiet

            I love the body armor end of discusssion

      • Mr. Sir Shpee

        “Iron Man” by Black Sabbath confirmed for soundtrack.

    • Fredy Carius

      If the game balance is anything like Peace Walker, you’ll definitely have to wear it in the harder missions

      • Raven_Sorrow

        “definitely” is a strong word. It gives you advantages but you can bring down an AI boss wearing the swimsuit and sneak against the tanks/helis 😉

        • Fredy Carius

          well, those later custom AIs and tanks could kill me with a single hit

          • Raven_Sorrow

            Yup that would be the risk. But if you want the challenge of “go big or go home” naked is fun to play XD The speed bonus of the swimming trunks, dodging missiles while shooting is really effective actually 😛

  • Bartolomeo OP Snake Eater

    Kojima has killed this. Gonna be too much fun

  • kirtanloorii

    Good thing BB is on our side… I think.

  • Robin Besch

    hi guys im new here but im reading since… well for a while now. and with only few days left i went crazy just sitting here and not having anybody to talk about it xD

    • Raven_Sorrow

      Welcome and you are welcome to get that of your chest 😉

      • Robin Besch

        im asking myself was it a mistake to preorder the CE?
        since i read somewhere else steam players will get behind the scenes etc for free and i guess all the skins and stuff will be available sooner or later in the game for free too…

        • Sockerfri

          Welcome!

          Well, on my part it comes down to personal economy when deciding between regular and collectors edition. In my case I decided to go with the regular. I dont think you´ll regret buying the CE tho. It has some cool physical content.

          • Chriss Kama

            I could not buy the CE because it was sold out already, so I had to buy the D1 edition.

        • Raven_Sorrow

          well, first, it was asked on twitter and the exclusive digital content of CE is not going to be released for the other versions. Second CE is also the physical content: the arm, the book etc etc… So it’s kinda up to you, like if you value more the digital content of the CE (Which may not be available to the other versions) or the hardware. I, for one would give a arm and a eye for a CE XD

          • Robin Besch

            didnt knew that thing about the digital conent nice to know.
            i never before bought any kind of collectors edition but i just thought since that is probably my last mgs ever i just gonna go all in with it 😀 did u ever buy something similiar from kojipro/konami? i would love to know about the build qualitiy and stuff the arm will be really awesome to have but not if its just a glorified surprise egg toy… im over exagerating but u get my point

          • Raven_Sorrow

            I understand your concerns since i got the CE for the exact same reason XD that being said, it’s my fist time getting merchandise outside the game (besides my MGS3 banner) so i can’t put them to rest, sorry :/

          • Robin Besch

            thats okay
            we’ll just gonna hope for the best and even if its trash the game wont be so i guess we’re pretty safe 😀

          • Frank Jaeger

            The Plasma Sword that was released with the CE of Revengeance was good quality so I would assume that the Arm will be as well.

          • Robin Besch

            happy to hear that ! now all i need is a hibernate switch on my back so my gf can switch me back on for sept. 1st xD

          • Chriss Kama

            What about getting your head pierced with shrapnel???

          • Raven_Sorrow

            Sure, sounds fun 🙂 i heard from a friend that if you bump the shrapnel you get high and stuff XD

          • Chriss Kama

            Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

        • FrankWhite

          that robot arm tho.

          • Robin Besch

            good point

          • Chriss Kama

            ………yeah:(

    • PACOVELI

      Welcome!

    • Gatsu

      Welcome to the brotherhood of D-Dogs !

    • Solid PhoeniX

      Welcome Diamond Dog

    • VenomSnake123

      I haven’t been here for long either but i feel at home already :). Welcome!

    • ddmaster

      Our family gotta +1, thats always welcomed and loved.

    • SnakeEater

      Welcome to Mother Base soldier!

      • Chriss Kama

        As men, we live to fight, as brothers…..WE FIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE NEEDED.

    • Hello Robin, and hello everyone!

  • H’m
    • You know these are just skins right

      • H’m

        obviously :).. thats why i did say…
        missed out or low on $$$ for the mgs5 ps4 system

        • Haha ok just wanted to make sure you know

    • glitchbomb

      Sean Eyestone. And no, I’ve been looking too. Let me know if you dig something up on redbubble or something. Haha.
      No, really.

      • H’m

        obviously with that lil bit of sarcasm i ain’t never gonna find one huh… 🙂

        • glitchbomb

          You would be surprised at how often you can run into weird small batch shirts duplicated via fans on sites like that.

      • Mr. Sir Shpee

        Sean has one of the coolest last names I’ve ever heard.

        • glitchbomb

          I was just thinking where that name came from as I was typing it out.

  • Raven_Sorrow
  • J_muse72

    Ah sweet sweet revenge…I am going to love this game if you haven’t already noticed.

  • Tong Ninja

    Big Boss actually looks kind of sick (literally) in that image… haha

    • H’m

      to be honest seeing this image only makes me wish kojima expanded on the survival mechanics from snake eater, broken bones etc and from this pic, imagine to much blood loss and your screwed

      • PACOVELI

        That is what I thought as well. I am playing snake eater at the moment and I really really love the surviv machanics when you fix and stitch yourself up. The small movie that comes up and I loved that he had to eat! A cia-rookie with the code-name naked snake eating a snake or a fish I loved it! It made it feel so real and made me think what would snake taste like

      • FZJanimated

        Well he kinda did , in MGS V TPP if you get shoot too much in the arm or leg you cant walk or shoot or your aim is going to suck ,you have to press triangle to fix it. maybe if you lose too much blood you have to do something ?

      • Tong Ninja

        Junkerhq translated one of Kojima’s tweets. There is some basic mechanic regarding survival/injuries.

        https://twitter.com/JunkerHQnet/status/629665792834039808

  • PACOVELI

    there is a saying that goes: no expectations, no dissapointments.
    I honesty dont want to expect to much. But I am more then sure this experience will be beyond my expectations. Maybe all of ours.
    I liked every metal gear game from beginning to end and back to the beginning again. I dont fully agree on every choise kojima has made in the past but I have faith. I have been waiting for this since mgs3 snake eater. I love the semi-realistic stuff and conspiracy’s like nano-technique the illuminati-like patriots or la-le-lu-le-lo, I love how the story evolved around real events that happend and how it lets you feel the emotion of the character and story, I love sneaking and realistic gameplay and to be honest I think this will be the best yet up to today. Other game developers will have a hard time catching up with metal gear in general. Kojima set the bar high and I think is going all out! He is a legend and has made impact on all out lives with his creation. I have played quite some games and watches a lot of movies, but there isn’t really anything to compare with mgs.
    Now bigg boss is gonna take revenge. Remember him walking trough to water bare chest with the tree’s on fire. This guy is more then anything we have seen yet

    • JohnnyAB

      “Other game developers will have a hard time catching up with metal gear in general.”

      Yup let them catch up while all of us enjoy the gazonga’s outta MGSV!

  • echolution

    Guys, is it just me or i feel like MSG V story about revenge is what Kojima had felt all these years when he made this? Trailers, pics, videos, many of them like want to show us, “What is Pain?” or “Revenge”. And imho he deserved for a revenge after all his work and magic for us fans was just unappropriately thrown away in favor of some profits 🙁

    • Connor Nelson

      everything happened too far into the development of tpp for its plot to mirror the real life events and the games have never been about kojima, they are too big to be so limited.

      • Amrit

        You say that but all one has to do is look at the Deja Vu mission in Ground Zeroes for a ton of foreshadowing. He was on the Konami board after all. I definitely think we’ll see similar situations portrayed in-game.

  • BurntFM

    You don’t need to elaborate Kojima. You had me at Metal Gear. It’s so close I can almost taste it

    ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

  • FrankWhite

    I bet something will happen in the game that will make us really HATE Big Boss. My guess is, that he´s behind Camp Omega etc. and nobody knows about it.

  • Javier

    Next week I’m going to the konami event! OMG, I’m so happy right now.

    • BurntFM

      We need you to infiltrate and find out if they are working on a real life Metal Gear. This mission is OSP.

    • Gatsu

      Enjoy 🙂 !

  • Gatsu

    It is so great that we’ve been able to follow such a fantastic series from early years. I love the way Kojima brings the saga’s story to full circle by letting us witness how Big Boss becomes…THE Big Boss. I wish many more in the world will play MGS games, because there really is no other games like it. It is so damn special!

    Kojima always manages to do really deep stories with unique characters, that really touch your soul. After seeing every single trailer so far and gameplays, I know this will be the best game that have been ever made. I don’t usually hype games too much, but with TPP it’s different. Kojima puts everything he has into TPP and it will be sooo worth it omg. The way he mix real life events to his games is awesome too. I look forward to the open world style of building the story ourselves slowly with different missions.

    I love dark stories in games, because they let me feel so many emotions 😉 and shed tears which I don’t often do. TPP being about bloody revenge just yells for this kind of scenes. I remember Stefanie Joosten saying that we might hate certain characters in the game at some point, I wonder if it is Big Boss or Kaz ;C. Perhaps some of them will go too far to achieve their revenge , so far that they gonna do some horrible decision oh nooo! Seeing how the characters change on this revenge story will be fascinating.

    Anyway, I am super glad that he and his buddies have the opportunity to finish this last masterpiece for us fans. When the ending credits roll…I will be speechless. Or no, I will be speechless when my journey towards revenge, from the depths of hell begins after 25 days. But my reaction will be much, much bigger when the story ends …
    Btw, that image kicks ass!

    • ShalashaskaWasHerSon

      “I remember Stefanie Joosten saying that we might hate certain characters in the game at some point”

      From the recent trailers Kaz seems like a real dick! Torturing and executing everyone. How does this guy go on to gain the respect of Solid Snake? Maybe Liquid impersonating him to fool Solid Snake wasn’t the only reason he killed him? Maybe he had also a personally vendetta against Master Miller?

      • Gatsu

        Yeah Kaz seems to be full of rage.

        While Big Boss holds his anger more on the inside.
        “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”

        Their ideas will probably clash later in the game and Big Boss departs to create his own vision of Outer Heaven.

        • FoxTamerMGO

          In MG 2: Solid Snake, Miller be like “Big Boss is a real monster”.. watching the trailers/gameplays of MGSV turns out that Miller is the monster.

          • Al.

            Oh. So you know everything.
            Jesus. People take that comment out of context. In this game there are no heroes or villains. But every characters did something wrong.

        • ShalashaskaWasHerSon

          From the trailers it seems Snake is the only sane person in an insane world. It’s Snake’s environment that turns him “bad”, depending on ones point of view of course.

          Ocelot. A smug psychopath. That wants to be Big Boss(Snake). Has a pathological jealousy toward him. Which we saw in MGS3. He admires him so much he knows he has to kill him to become him. Ocelot will turn on Venom Snake as he has done to others in previous/future games. He is a soldier. He has at least some honor. He’ll choose the right time.

          Kaz Miller. It’s seems years of torture has twisted him. The torture scenes with him and Ocleot also show he’s paranoid.

          Quiet. Something definitely going on there. That repetitive humming? Crazy!

          Liquid(Eli) Need I even go on? A looney!

          Again, being in that environment and being around those people with such
          brutal head trauma and loss of equilibrium could be what shapes BB in a villain.

      • GUN®

        I can see eli and miller having a bad relationship in pp

      • ddmaster

        Never thought of that good point, thats why I love reading MGI comments, as a fan they really make you think.

  • ShalashaskaWasHerSon

    That translation is giving me a brain aneurysm trying to read it. But it’s a Kojima induced aneurysm. The best kind.

  • Mauricio Acosta

    JunkerHQ is reporting that Kojima will release comparison shots of all versions of the game tomorrow.

    • Kawaii Monster

      Ah shit here we go, be ready for a barrage of BS and trolls tomorrow sometimes people make me feel ashamed to be a gamer. It doesn’t matter true fans will enjoy the game regardless of system.

      • Gatsu

        “It doesn’t matter true fans will enjoy the game regardless of system.”

        Couldn’t say it any better.

      • Mr. Sir Shpee

        I’m a PC player but I’m interested to see how it holds up on 360 and PS3 compared to current-gen and PC.

      • No Place For Hayter

        Why argue we know how it will go quality wise, but that has nothing to do with how much you can enjoy the game and what platform you are playing it on. I know PC will be better quality but I’m still playing it on PS4 because I want to.

        XBOX360<PS3<XBOXONE<PS4<PC

        I don't even need to see the comparison, lol. GZ told us everything, lol.

      • Jedediah Carender

        This game is beautifully done the graphics are just shy of photo realistic. With everything we’ve seen thus far this game is a true master piece regardless of system. Let the legend come back to life.

  • Mini gear

    i hope i don’t get spammed with FOB if i keep it on

  • SnakeEater

    Awesome to be around so many MGS fans! Yes I’m new here..

    • Mini gear

      welcome aboard brother!

      • SnakeEater

        Thanks a lot soldier!

    • Gatsu

      Welcome to Outer Heaven brother ;)! It’s great to see so many new Doggies joining!

      • SnakeEater

        Thank you! I heard you were a popular member around here! Is this true sir?

        • Gatsu

          I dont consider myself famous lol, but thx ;).

    • No Place For Hayter

      Welcome! ( ‘ ‘ )7 we are so close comrade, lol. We are among open friends and fans here 🙂

      • SnakeEater

        Thank you so much!

    • ddmaster

      Welcome aboard Mother Base young pup.

      • SnakeEater

        Thank you dear brother!

  • Sovereign SnaKe

    ~Cycle of revenge huh? Sounds like art imitating life my Dear Kojima-san. 😉 I just have one lingering, trolling question though.. Why for fucks sake does Big Boss​ have to be voiced by Kiefer Sutherland? I know I need to just get over it already (I’m still not) but there better be a damn good explanation as to why my beloved Boss who has sounded the same in 3 different games sounds like it’s an episode of 24. After watching the gamescom trailer yesterday I still find it.. distracting. :-/

    • H’m

      dont worry mate your not the only one whos EVER going to accept kiefer as snake/bigboss, i will alway love the mgs series but i did lose alot of respect for kojima when this hugeee change was announced ( and isnt the orig japanese voice actor still voicing him ) but i still have that lil bit of hope this will be kojimas last troll

      • Sovereign SnaKe

        I think you’re absolutely right. I’m keeping my fingers crossed this will be a Kojima Trolling of Earth shattering proportions. 😉 And yes the Akio Atsuka is still voicing him in Japan, I’m just not sure why they didn’t change it there? It’s strange indeed but I’m cautiously optimistic. 🙂

        • Gatsu

          They didn’t need to change it because Kiefer is the one doing the facial motion capture, while Akio just dubs his voice over the performance.

          • H’m

            that reasoning … facial, motion capture etc… is sorry in opinion just a shitty bullcrap excuse on kojimas part,

            edit.. sounds like kojima might have been abit star struck by kiefer, n with the if its ever released film i was kinda hoping mr hayter would have been involved with the screen-writing who better an also considering his past history

          • Gatsu

            Okey well, that is your opinion :).

          • No Place For Hayter

            Agreed, Kojima has no reason stated that has any actual ground. The age thing doesn’t work because both of them are close enough in age it doesn’t matter, and because Hayter has voiced an older snake before. The facial capture thing doesn’t work because anyone can do that (Hayter is an actor too, he is not simply a voice actor he does have acting roles as well BTW) it is not like most people have no facial expressions that is ridiculous, you could facial capture anyone. The needing a more serious tone and voice makes no sense as Hayter has always voiced both serious and none serious parts very well, and he has been doing both forever, and it is not like TPP is all doom and gloom it has humour and none serious parts in it as well just like every other MGS game so that point is moot.

            There is no logical or smart reason that could possibly be presented as an actual reason for the voice switch. With that being said my best guess is that Kojima simply really wanted some hollywood action star he was a fan of.

            And to be completely honest the casting for TPP has to be the biggest mess I have ever seen, from the Big Boss drama, to skull face taking forever to sink into his role, to Zero’s voice acting not getting paid enough and instead of paying a little more money to get the actual voice for the character you dumb him and grab someone else? don’t get me wrong the new Zero voice is great, but how we ended up with that voice is because someone cared more about money than they did the characters and story in the game.

          • Sovereign SnaKe

            Which makes me wish they would have dubbed David Hayter’s voice in for Boss. I just hope there is a reasonable explanation because it’s very hard to accept the change in the sound of someones voice. It’s imprinted on all the fans minds. They got away with it in Splinter Cell but Metal Gear is a much more personable affair for many people.

          • Gatsu

            I’ve been a fan of MGS since 1998 and love Hayter, but for me it’s easy to accept Kiefer as Big Boss. I dunno why, I just think his voice is good. Can’t explain it very well :P. But I guess not every fan see/feel the changes same way :] .

          • Mr. Sir Shpee

            New fan and I love Hayter but Kiefer is a great Big Boss. Hayter did a good job in Peace Walker, though.

        • H’m

          i really enjoyed the splinter cell games, its not mgs but even so, no michael ironside just sounded wrong in the later game, mind you i gave up on those games around the same time soo.. 🙂

        • H’m

          maybe with kojima leaving, konami to gain back a lil cred can bring hayter back for future titles, obviously no mgs game will ever be the same but at least one thing will be

      • No Place For Hayter

        Yes, Japan still has the same voice actor for Big Boss.

    • Gatsu

      Kiefer is awesome ;(….so is David, but Kiefer’s voice is so good imo.
      He is like Snake in 24 lol ;).

      Big Boss had different voice actor in MGS4 too :P. I hope people get used to him in TPP so can enjoy it as much as I do.

      • Sovereign SnaKe

        Richard Doyle I was okay with because of the age, it was 2014, your voice doesn’t change that much from 1974 (Peace Walker) to 1984 (Phantom Pain.) He was even voiced by Hayter in Portable Ops which also sounded great for what little dialogue there was outside of cutscenes.

        • Gatsu

          Richard was awesome too :). My opinion is that I’m glad Big Boss can have his own voice even if I love David, so can distinguish him more from Solid Snake. Troy or someone did say there is a reason for Kiefer being Big Boss though.

          • Sovereign SnaKe

            This is true, he did say that, I just hope it’s a major “ah ha!” mind blown moment. 🙂

          • Sovereign SnaKe

            But even if it’s to bring David Hayter back for a remake of say Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2 I don’t think I want anything to do with it if Hideo Kojima sin’t on board as Director. Although I did love Portable Ops and that was Directed by Masahiro Yamamoto and he did a very good job.

      • No Place For Hayter

        You know what is still funny, is how everyone thought Hayter was going to be replaced with Richard Doyle from MGS4. Guess not. Even I thought they were going with Doyle, I mean why have another voice when you have two choices already.

    • No Place For Hayter

      No idea, my best guess is Kojima went “OMG HOLLYWOOD ACTION STAR WOOOOO!” and then dropped Hayter like a bad habit. Honestly it makes no sense, Kiefer isn’t even a voice actor he is an actor, trust me there is a difference, Keifer isn’t even trying he is simply “acting” and getting paid for it. A voice actor will change their personality and voice to fit the role of the character they are voicing, an actor most of the time will always simply be themselves and directors will choose them based on their preset. kiefer isn’t trying to sound like Big Boss he isn’t trying at all, he is voicing Big Boss with the one and only voice he uses, seriously, not even a different tone or personality than his 24 character, it would be far less annoying if Kiefer actually used a different voice instead of the ONE voice he has ever used, what Kojima did was instead of having Big Boss be the character he made he squeezed Big Boss into the preset of Kiefer, as a character Big Boss is now less than he could have been with an actual voice actor as Kiefer can only do so much with the character. Kiefer has not even been given a reason to actually put effort into it, “You are voicing Big Boss a depressed super angry guy an a quest for revenge” sounds close enough to his 24 character, so he voices it with the same personality and nobody minds, and then he voices his first line (this of course happens with no direction in how they want him to voice the character, just whatever his normal voice is, is good enough and is what they want) and nobody cares to get him to change his voice at all, they all let him keep the same voice he has always used.

      That’s all from me, I would really get going, but honestly I don’t want to write novels about it, even though I could 😉

      • Sovereign SnaKe

        ~I could write one myself as well but you nailed it! 🙂

    • FMercenary

      If it wouldn’t have been Kiefer it would’ve been someone else replacing David. The reason for choosing Kiefer could have been both artistic, and given his status, an inherent marketing ploy, but to elaborate more on the artistic reason, it was possibly because they wanted someone with a naturally serious voice. I don’t speak Japanese but on the matter of Akio reprising his role, it’s because Akio’s and Snake’s voice are the same, so it comes off more natural, and hell, Akio could be a film actor if he wanted to. Just to reference MGS1, the tone of the voices in the Japanese version and English version differ and seem to present the game quite differently where it makes the Japanese characters sound like actual people and the English ones sound more anime/comic like. What’s the reason for doing this? I’m not sure, but it would make for a good interview question for Hideo Kojima.

  • GUN®

    This is gonna be the darkest mgs yet easily.

  • Raging Turtle

    I like how the FOB system connects so well with the chain of retaliation. Someone steals your things, you get mad and steal theirs and it becomes a chain. Can’t wait for MGSV!

  • John Rhogan

    Love the black prosthetic arm, and love Kojima’s Engrish. 🙂

  • AeroGre

    Can someone link me to that thing where everyone is putting in their gametag info to add eachother

  • Al.

    So, awful shit is going to happen to everyone just like it always has.
    I prepare for a depressing.

  • ddmaster

    Our family gotta +1. Thats always welcomed and loved.

  • ddmaster

    What a minute! Is that another arm?! Dear God I hope so.

  • Jedediah Carender

    Been lurking here for a while and following the news on this site about mgsv:tpp and I have to say I love this community. I see the love you all have for this story and it’s great.

  • PrinceHeir

    Big Boss looks bulky as hell!

  • Michael Blackburn

    I have a question about the Nuke. Can you use it to defend yourself or is it just a deterrent in game? Is it just for show or is their practicality to it?

  • Greyfox98

    I’ll probably regret sharing this with y’all but….what the hell!

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