Stefanie Joosten: Being in MGSV really changed my life, one of the best experiences I have ever had

In an interview with gaming website VG-Reloaded, Stefanie Joosten (known as Quiet in Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain) talked a bit about her role in one of this year’s biggest titles.

Stefanie brought Quiet to life by not only lending her likeness to the game through 3D scanning, but also doing the voice acting and motion capture for the character, for which she had to wear a special suit. She remembers the suit was a little hard to get into and out of, but other than that the sessions were a lot of fun. There were some challenges, like how to use weapons correctly, but she was able to learn things throughout the process.

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Stefanie is very impressed with some of the cosplays she has seen of her character. “They really are some of the most devoted fans I’ve seen.” She has actually cosplayed herself before, as a teenager, but is a bit embarrassed about it because she feels it was pretty low-quality.

She would certainly be interested in doing more video game work. “I would definitely love to work on another game! I mostly do modeling and acting work, but working on Metal Gear Solid is one of the best experiences I have ever had. I also love working with people who have similar interests, and since I’m a gamer myself I think I easily click with people working in the game industry.”

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Ever since it was revealed she got the role as Quiet, she’s been getting a lot of attention. “I must say that being in MGSV has really changed my life. It is very strange to suddenly have this many people following me on my social media, but I also think Metal Gear fans are one of the best people to be followed by. Mostly everyone is very polite and supportive.”

Somewhat related; Stefanie Joosten has also been streaming her gameplay sessions with Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, you can go to her Youtube channel by following this link.

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Source: VG-Reloaded

  • VenomSnake421

    I wonder if she will ever cosplay her own character.

  • Joaquin Romero Victorica

    Too bad you worked in the worst metal gear solid ever released and there isn’t any character development on quiet but well . We will always have her
    http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll5plxo9BD1qcq2vho1_500.gif

    • Wrong. Quiet was a great character.

      • Joaquin Romero Victorica

        Wrong . Quiet is an underdeveloped character with no real meaning in to the Core of the story . It just an add on to The medic relationship . Oh my good she save the day with his parasite english virus. No impact on the real Big boss – No impact on outer heaven or diamond dogs . Just a sexy character who lacks of substancial Mgs feelings

        • Your hate for MGSV blinds you.

          • Joaquin Romero Victorica

            and You tpp fanboysm blind your criticsm . Many many people find her underdeveloped

          • Sure, pal. But do you really intend to keep posting like this on every article?

          • Joaquin Romero Victorica

            Lol what other post ? the one who has 15 likes and is funny ? . I don’t think so . The truth has been unfold and many fans are sharing their opinions now the game has end. Just relax and discuss or argue . There no issue here =)

          • There is an issue. This constant negativity ruins the atmosphere. People have said before they stopped visiting the site because of all the negativity. People used to come here because they liked the community, and we want to keep it that way. If they no longer like it as much, then yes, that is an issue. So if you do intend to keep posting that way: please don’t.

          • Joaquin Romero Victorica

            So why my comment has so many likes Becouse i’m just a joker ? No becouse there are people who think the same us me and we are friendly . I’m not doing a discuss about you rather than the game . Start to realize there are fans with other opinions in this website

          • There are plenty of people with different opinions on this site, as you can see. But once again, the constant negativity is an issue for some people that liked to come here for the community. Everyone is welcome here, but they also have to feel welcome. And most people are able to discuss the game’s good points and its flaws in a more balanced, less aggressive manner. It has nothing to do with being a ‘fanboy’ or not accepting other opinions, it has to do with your attitude.

          • Joaquin Romero Victorica

            My attitude is fine . You are the one who hate whatever thing i post . I’m 100% pure friendly with the community so i dont agree one bit =)

          • Someone else just posted a comment asking you to stop. So maybe the community isn’t as happy with your attitude as you seem to think. So the question is: are you willing to adjust your attitude in the future?

          • Alex

            Nyxus laying the smackdown!

            Joaquin, I see your point and part of me feels opinion debates (even if aggressive) are valid, but the other part of me prefers the overall pre-MGSV positivity much more, personally. Maybe say “I felt she was a weak character in the weakest MGS” rather than trying to definitely say as fact “Too bad you worked in the worst metal gear solid ever released and there isn’t any character development on quiet” because that can clearly be seen as a load of butt. Its all in your approach. With every game, there’s those that go in positively and leave positively, and those that dont have enough open mind to leave positively. If you take ever single MGS for what they are, they are all unique masterpieces in their own ways, and that’s something exclusive to the MGS series.

          • Greyfox98

            I’m right there with ya Nyxus!! As i’m listening to you two duking it out, all I can here is that theme from Dr Who, I’m The Docter.

          • Gray Lion

            Dat theme, brother X3

          • Hey, but I’m a asshole right? Haha

          • Full Options

            This answer is cool, but I feel embarrassed to upvote it… xD

          • MrVux007

            “My attitude is fine” – since when is being “constantly” negative about a game, “fine”?Its ok to express your displeasure of the game,but have a limit man….

            “You are the one who hate whatever thing i post” im hating myself for reading this right now…Nyxus is probably the most understanding and un-hateful person on this site,and thats why me and majority of people who visit(or use to visit) this site have an utmost respect towards the guy…

            ” I’m 100% pure friendly with the community so i dont agree one bit =)” i disagree with that statement

            To add up,i encourage criticism for any kind of media since everyone will have his own perspective and taste towards it….but CONSTANTLY expressing that “criticism” will most likely end up going up someone’s nerves….

            Im yet to play the game,but, from what ive seen the game has received UNIVERSAL acclaim and majority of people are more then pleased with the game…
            but alas,people who were displeased with things are usually the loudest(your the prime example of that)….
            Hell even YongYea and JeremyJahns called it the best MGS in the series,and to my surprise,AngryJoe gave it a high score…
            So please for my and other people sake,stop posting the negative stuff about the game allready,we already understood the message of your displeasure

          • Gray Lion

            Nyx kami na desu! :3
            Seriously, the guy is a cool guy. He and the brothers here on this site made me not only wanna get into the discussion but also come here every single day. This site still is and will always be the best community on the Internet, period. I´d hug you all if I could, specially you, Nyx!

          • I’d hug your neck, from the back #cqc

          • Gray Lion

            I´d hug you right back, brother :3
            #reversecqc

          • I wouldn’t put up a fight. I’d just wait for a kiss #liquidocelotcqc

          • Gray Lion

            That´s MGS love right there #liquidocelotlovesyou<3
            I think no ammount of D-horse´s shit on your face can be as disrespectful as that move XD
            It's not about being homophobic, it was really out of character, I was seriously weirded out and taken aback when it happened. It was so disrespectful, I immediately felt such a lust for revenge.

          • Full Options

            I am the knife before XMas. You guys calm down or I call Miller.

        • Full Options

          Joaquin, I am 100% sure Nyxus read carefully your posts. If he was hating you, he would not even take the time to reply to you. I think your inputs are interesting. I myself would not share all mines deeply because my appreciation can be misunderstood. For example, it is clear that you love Metal Gear in general, but please try to understand V in the actual KP shoes. If you do not agree that Stefanie was involved in a great story, fine, at least you have to agree that she was involved in the best metal gear game ever published. Put all this in the shaker and express yourself, reminding to everybody the respect you may have for the overall project.

          When a character has an interactive role, it is hard to stick to a predefined story as the player have to decide. I am maybe blind but really found Snake or whatever medic, finally in love, with a fun James Bondish sex appeal that grabbed Quiet’s heart as fast as the player can do (like a little “Leisure Suit Larry” in a MGS…).

          She’s another lovely Snake Bond girl and quite military on par with Snake. Supra-naturally infected which raise as well a drama level. We never saw that before (at least in MG). An impossible love not because of a possible philosopher’s legacy mission. Still pure love, even if she is mostly a Skull… I find it rather original !?

      • gerber

        I can’t agree and here is my review of Quiet and her story:

        She starts of as intriguing character with unknown motives but clearly with a bigger role to play. Quiet is also obvious fan service, however justified story-wise. We know nothing about her, but we get to work together and develop some nice bond and understanding without even using words. Switching sides just because she suddenly “felt in love with the legend” is a bit lame reason. Even Ocelot admitted to his bromance with Snake but that bromance was well developed in MGS3. With every Snake’s action witnessed by Ocelot, his admiration for Snake grew steadily. But what’s up with Quiet? It looks like a teen crush. She tried to kill him at hospital and tried to do so again during the boss fight so what happened? Oh uh he is such a good fighter! And he spared my life, not like for interrogation or something, he must’ve developed feelings for me. I think I’m in love. Seriously, she looks like a silly teen to me. There was no time and opportunities to develop any real chemistry between them. Since then she clearly swithed to Big Boss’s side. She also knew quite a bit and obviously wanted to help but couldn’t because she can’t speak english. How come nobody thought of giving her pen and paper? Even they interrogated her and no one thought of that? I know what Kojima wanted to show with this character, how communication without language is difficult and she is supposed to show us what a terryfying plan Skull Face had with destroying english language. But that plot hole is just too big, I mean seriously. Pen and paper.

        It is also said that part of Quiet still wanted a revenge on Venom. But why? First of all it was Ishmael who burned Quiet, not Venom. Secondly, Quiet came to murder a defenseless guy who just woke up from a coma and even if he injured you, he was just defending himself! How can you lust revenge?

        Her character is underdeveloped. All we know about her is that she worked for Skull Face, was sent to kill Snake, got burned and recovered with parasite therapy and sent again to kill Snake and spread the infection. But she suddenly fell in love and decided to help Snake. This is why her death was not as touching for me as it was probably supposed to be. And the whole ending is so cliche. In a sandstorsm, one soldier randomly breaks off the formation, happens to get close to where they are, there also happens to be a snake. Snake happens to be one of the venomous (10% of snakes are venomous if I remember correctly) and of course Venom Snake gets bitten by a venomous snake. Quiet is forced to speak and sacrifice her life to save her beloved. Writing here felt really weak and uncreative, I expected more from Kojima.

        • Didn’t Ocelot say she did not want to communicate trough writing?

          • gerber

            I think you are right, but it’s still nonsense. What kind of interrogation is that? You don’t wanna talk? We’ll make you talk, that’s the point of interrogation. She had means of communication and if they are not willing to force her to communicate, what’s the point? They were pushing it with Huey but they gave Quiet a lot of credit, even though she is just as shady character

    • BurntFM

      Stop….Just…..save yourself. I’m pretty sure in your mind, you think that all this hyperbole is clever but you’re just coming off as whiny and petulant.

    • César H. Sandoval

      Quiet actually develops a lot for a character in this game. I’d even say her character arc is way more complete than the ones of Venom and Ocelot.

      Sure, MGSV’s plot is paper-thin when you compare it to other MGS games, so that may not be saying much.

      • Greyfox98

        I agree with you there

    • FoxTamerMGO

      I also think Quiet was underdeveloped, and her entire existence wasn’t meaningful. If Kojima spent the time creating Quiet on the actual story instead, it’d have been much better. To all the people here on MGI.. We are not “thought criminals”. We don’t live in George Orwell’s novel. Anyone can express their thoughts about the game.

      • moto hellogoto

        Sadly I have agree with you. This is no fault of Miss Joosten though. She did a fantastic job with what she had to work with. I hope to see (and hopefully hear) more from her in the future.

    • Boldizar

      I agree JRV. This game had zero characterization or plot development. It is depressing and infuriating. I never thought it would get worse than MGS4, a game that in hindsight actually really good because it was made to be bad. This is just, bad.

      I also loved how her sexualization had NOTHING to do with the plot… er I mean.. she is photosynthetic? Pull out the micro bikini boys!

      • Full Options

        Kojima Productions is not developing games the way you would bite in a simple cheeseburger. Once everybody will realize what’s in the box, I hope some will remember what they said and correct the shot accordingly.

    • Gray Lion

      Such a lust for revenge, bro.
      Take it down a notch.I understand your point and I understand where you are coming from… I think most people here do. But you gotta take a chill pill.
      You hate MGSV, we get it. I did hate some of it, too. But constant bickering ain´t getting your point across any better.
      You got to take the “glass half full” approach. Did you really hate AAAAALL of it? Wasn´t there anything you enjoyed? Sure, the story was very lacking, I get that. But the gameplay was superb, you got to give me that, at least.
      Plus, you had a hottie like Quiet riding shotgun with you. That´s gotta count for something, brother.
      Just… Take it easy. It isn´t about going apeshit over unpopular oppinions, it is about being rude and repeating the same thing all over again on every single post. We´re all MGS fans, let´s just focus on what we have in common and what we love and leave aside this bad blood bullshit, Joaquin 🙂

      • Opinions change…spoken like a true poet though.

    • No Place For Hayter

      Sorry, MGS4 is far worse.

  • Alex

    Viva la Stefanie!

  • Venom_Sina

    I just wanted to write a long negative comment about the prologue,but when I saw the other posts,I decided to wait a little.Guys,can I go ahead or should I just shut-up?LOL.

    • N-Shifter

      But….the prologue is fricken excellent?

      • Venom_Sina

        Some parts,yes,but when I replayed it for the third time,I found a lot of nonsense in that,lol.I wanted to share it with you guys but…

        • gerber

          I’ve found a lot of nonsense myself, but I don’t feel like writing anymore about TPP. I would love to read your take on the prologue though

    • Full Options

      Ya what’s f.. wrong with the g.d d.mn prologue now !? 😀 Go ahead !

      • Venom_Sina

        Oh,why you’re angry?lol.Okay,I’m gonna write it down.It’s gonna take some time.

        • Full Options

          Take your best shot 😀

    • Gray Lion

      I agree with you… I got a bit overhyped by reading about the media outlets’ take on the prologue. It was cool, yeah, the first time was really cool… But there were some things that… Put me off, to be honest. Oh, do write it, brother, I am curious now to read your oppinion!

      • Venom_Sina

        I’m writing it now,lol.

    • Gatsu

      One thing that always bothered me in it, is when Ishmael say: “We’re sitting ducks, blend in with the bodies”. Lol not a very good idea, but got lucky that the enemies only shot those who had blood on their clothes (dead ones). Just small nitpicking and was funny imo and intense scene. But first time I was like “shiit, is that really a good idea to go there lol”. 😀

      Anyway, I love the prologue. The feels I got when slowly open my eyes and start crawling.

      • It also looks like Ishmael gets shot here, but apparently he doesn’t:

        https://youtu.be/Z1cyxRF-t-4?t=2069

        • Gatsu

          Yeah :).

        • No Place For Hayter

          Lol, yeah he doesn’t, if is both funny and annoying at the same time when someones dislikes the game like me but didn’t actually put a whole lot of thought or perception into why and just jump at anything they can, I will only fault something where I see faults, and I will give credit only where credit is due, each moment and each piece should not be judged by an over arching bias, that only harms your opinion and degrades and actual creative or subjective input or creative deconstruction you can do about a product, a bias like “I hate TPP” is why people find flaws where there aren’t any, and that is why it usually takes someone whom likes the game to point out there are wrong about that point because there aren’t viewing it from a negative bias but instead from a positive one where instead of stating its broken for no reason will look for a reason and create reasons. Of course there are those like me whom dislike the game and yet still run around correcting people whom point out a broken part which isn’t, lol.

          The thing that blows my mind about this sequence is that we saw it in the first trailer and have known for years that Ishmael doesn’t actually die there, but I guess not everyone was part of the crowd that was ripping everything apart, lol, but I was so I know and see Ishmael hiding in the doorway and I don’t mistake some random bandage dude as Ishmael, the intro plays him up like a ghost but he isn’t.

    • No Place For Hayter

      I have a million serious problems with TPP, but funnily enough, I have maybe one or two nitpicks with the prologue, I mean the epilogue has more issues, lol.

  • Gatsu

    Come on Joaquin…are you really talking bs to Nyx and accusing of stuff like that on this website he created for us? “Fanboyism blind you, I’m 100% nice person”.

    I get it, we all don’t view the characters the same way… And I know you hate MGSV more than anything maybe. But c’mon give it a rest already, should show some more respect towards Nyx imo.

    • FoxTamerMGO

      I agree with this comment, If it weren’t for Nyxus, we wouldn’t be here having discussion about the game we all love. Thank you Nyxus ;’D

      • Gatsu

        Well not sure if we all love it ;D. But yeah, thx Nyxus ;).

  • Gatsu

    It would be the best experience for me too :D. What a lucky babe :3 …

  • Gray Lion

    I was wondering… Did anyone else have to explain to their girlfriends why was there a very scantly dressed and attractive young woman in the game taking a shower while you watched in POV? No? Just me? Alright, then.

    Seriously, though, I loved her. Although her story could be a little lacking at times, I loved the character. I think the ending of her arc is not the greatest, though… I wish she could somehow be linked to the bigger picture in the MGS universe… She was cool, though. The face and mocap was extremely well done and that scene where she shoots down a fighter jet from the helicopter was sooooo badass!
    Stefanie, be my waifu (but don´t tell my girl I said that)! ;___;

    • Full Options

      Not just you. But one option is to say or pretend it is rather esoteric and the only way to understand the message is to dress like Quiet to have the full picture.

      • Gray Lion

        I read your comment and it got me thinking… Hm…

        • Full Options

          Try it, buy it, store it… 😀

          • Gray Lion

            But never show it on the internet XDDDD

          • Full Options

            You may improvise the dressing process. I am sure you’ll rank S.

          • Gray Lion

            Now all that´s left is a lovebox and Miller in his swimming trunks <3

          • Full Options

            Nuclear deterrence ? Try the red phone but do not give up negotiations for peace. Stick to the plan. 😀

          • Gray Lion

            Peace is for pussies. I am nuclear! XD

    • I explained to the wife that she had this condition… the wife said I was stupid and the explanation was stupid. She got over it tho haha

      • Gray Lion

        My girl reacted the same XD She still is not over it, so whenever she comes over I have DD as buddy XD

    • Venom_Sina

      I don’t have a girlfriend,so I’m good,lol.

      • Gray Lion

        At least you have Quiet, brother! 😀

        • Venom_Sina

          But I don’t like my girlfriend to be like this.You know,half naked,lol.

          • Full Options

            These are just pure logistics concerns.

          • Gray Lion

            Hey, she is a strong independent parasite-infected woman, she can dress how she pleases! Plus, you know… She´d kinda suffocate if she got a little more dressed XD

    • moto hellogoto

      Forget the shower. What about when she is sticking her butt in your face on the helicopter? lol try explaining that one.

      • Full Options

        +1, that’s part of a whole package.

      • Gray Lion

        Fortunately I did not have to. That and the cleavage shot… I just smiled and pretended I was being rewarded by Quiet for doing a hell of a S-rank job out on the field.

      • proceeder

        Look, guys, you don’t need to look if it bothers you. I think we’re paying too much attention to a very banal matter.

        • Gray Lion

          Could not have said it better myself, brother 🙂

    • CR7HarisSnake

      My girlfriend was “Quiet” lol.
      She somehow hates Paz dunno why 😀
      But loved Eva alot … 🙂

      • Full Options

        Mmmh… Weird… You have to interrogate her… She knows something… 😀

      • Gray Lion

        My girl, on the other hand, is Big Boss. That girl sure can CQC me when she gets mad or jealous XD But she is so <3

  • Venom_Sina

    Okay guys.Let’s talk.
    Recently I played the prologue for the third time.This time I played with a lot of love and passion,but the more I played it,the more I found flaws in it.There’s a reason that I’m writing it right now,cause I wanted you to share your opinions more,but since almost on one posted something about this (you know,aside from it’s freaking awesome etc.),I decided to do it.

    The beginning of the prologue is fantastic.When V wakes up,or doctor says you’ve been in a coma for 9 years,or the missing hand scene,all those scenes are awesome.It’s like you’re seeing a top-class horror movie.But unfortunately the game goes for a free fall after those scenes,starting with Stefanie’s scene:

    01.Stefanie (or Quiet) kills the doctor and nurse and comes forward to kill V.And remember the objective of XOF soldiers:Killing Snake.Q talks to the radio and says:”Consider it done”.It shows that she recognizes her target and wants to kill him.But instead of killing her target,a legendary soldier,she stands in front of V for at least 4 seconds and does nothing until Ishmael jumps on her!!!I mean,WTF?I mean,just shoot him and complete your mission.What’s the delay?

    02.After Ishmael throws that …thing to Q,she throws her knife to Ishmael.Then she comes forward,completely ignores Ishmael’s presence(that is a bigger threat than V),goes for V and chooses the most stupid way to kill V:By choking!!!She can easily pull out a gun and shoot him,or grab a knife and slit V’s throat.It’s like:Okay Ishmael,just set me on fire to win this fight and progress through the game,lol.

    03.After that choking,we will hear a “huuuuuh-huuuuh” thing and then a lighter sound comes up and we see Q on fire.Seriously,from where that lighter came up?Why you don’t show us?If Ishmael had it in the first place,why didn’t he use it against Q?It’s like that random Magnum in the ending of Resident Evil 3,lol.

    04.Going a little forward,V is finally on his feet and can move fast.In a scene,we will see a XOF chopper that wants to fast-rope some soldiers in the building.It’s normal,but the funny part is they throw a Smoke Grenade in the building!!!Why throwing a Smoke,when the other side is a bunch of nurses,doctors and patients?I give you the reason:To give a window to BB and V to escape from XOF,lol.

    05.You remember that crowded hallway?Where everybody will die?BB is in the next room,and V is in the middle of danger,remember?But what BB does to protect V?He waits around 5 seconds and then pulls V into the room?I mean,what is this delay?Why everyone have delays in this game,lol?What if V dies in that firefight?Nothing,just 9 years of work would go to waste,lol.

    06.This is short.The soldiers are stupid and blind enough to completely ignore the presence of 2 completely grown up adults in the room,lol.

    07.After that stupid ignoring by XOF soldiers,they decide to go and blend in with dead bodies.The plan is good,but again we have a bunch of stupid XOF soldiers!!!They start to shoot the dead bodies to confirm their kill,but the moment they reach V and BB,they will go to another stupid delay and surprisingly they don’t shoot them,lol.The funny part is they don’t check the other bodies,but when the reach V and BB,they decide to think,and then shoot,lol.They see V is alive and well,but instead of shooting him…yo guessed it:Another freaking delay!!!They wait enough until Volgin arrives.

    08.Volgin’s projectiles kills everyone,but I don’t know why BB and V are immune!!!

    09.When Volgin kills XOF soldiers,why he doesn’t throw a projectile and kill these two assholes?He comes forward and waits long enough for BB to shoot the water pipe,lol.Another Stupid delay.

    10.Going a lot forward,we see Volgin again in a perfect situation for killing V.V shoots him with a gun,but he doesn’t throw a projectile,instead again he waits long enough for BB to crush him to a wall,lol.

    11.In the car,BB clearly get shot and he passes out,but we see in Truth thet he’s alive and well.So can you tell me why you passed out,BB?

    12.Going with Ocelot,they manage to shoot Volgin.This man observes bullets,but they continue to shoot him,lol.Funny part is Volgin don’t shoot projectiles again.

    These are the things I saw in my playthrough.Those “waiting and not doing the right thing” moments really affected the whole scene for me.These are just my thoughts.I don’t want to make some people angry or make them to leave this community,I’m just sharing my thoughts.To be honest,I expected you brothers come forward and share your thoughts about the game,not just “it’s great” or “it’s bullshit”,but unfortunately most of you didn’t. I have a plan to do this for the other parts of the story too,but if it’s annoying for some of you,I will not write the future ones.

    Sorry for the long comment.

    For the final part,here’s an exclusive and clear look at BigBoss’s ass hole in 1080P,lol:

    • Full Options

      Do not be sorry. Did you feel Mantis or Volgin helping you rather than anything else (I felt it with the first playthrough)? Mantis betrays Skull-face since the first second.

      • Venom_Sina

        Yeah,that’s another thing.Their affiliation is XOF,but the last thing they want to do is killing V/BB.But Ocelot says Skullface uses Volgin’s hate to BB to kill BB.I don’t know,maybe he’s wrong too,lol.

        • Full Options

          Skullface thinks he controls Mantis so Volgin but Mantis has other plans.

          • Venom_Sina

            Yeah,that makes sense if you count the Hellbound mission,where Mantis crushes Volgin.But why they are so hostile?Remember that Cyprus horse chase?

          • Gray Lion

            I got three words for you, brother: lust for revenge.

          • Venom_Sina

            Volgin probably wants to kill BB,but Mantis don’t.that’s the best explanation,I think.But at the same time it doesn’t makes sense too,lol.

          • Gray Lion

            Maybe Mantis dived into Venom´s mind and therefore knows the truth about Venom Snake? That would explain a lot…

          • Venom_Sina

            If he did that,so he knows about Ishmael being the real BB.So why he deosn’t do something about it?

          • Full Options

            Mantis have the power to know who is BB so you have a point here… The only explanation left is that Mantis is interested in the player, and not BB. Like HK BTW !

          • Venom_Sina

            But player/medic is not an interesting thing IMO.Why he should be interested in a medic?

          • Full Options

            Because Hideo did it already, putting us in Raiden. I was surprised but was sure it was sooo for fun. And it was !

          • Venom_Sina

            Yeah.In some ways it makes sense.And about Raiden:My favorite MGS is 2.

          • Full Options

            I don’t know if you played RareWare’s GoldenEye, but I also played the “game-play-sequel” named “perfect dark” and did not felt any problem with the character because the engine was 1:1 what I expected.

          • Venom_Sina

            The Nintendo 64 games,right?I played both of them.Best 007 game until Treyarch’s Quantum of Solace (2008).

          • Full Options

            Rareware was on top of things, I am sure you laughed your ass off, playing with friends on splitted screen too. Did not tried Quantum but if you put your seal on it, I may check it !

          • Venom_Sina

            Unfortunately I didn’t have two controllers,so I played the single player mode.
            And yeah,Rare was one of the best developers in the industry back in the day.

          • Full Options

            The Goldeneye engine was top. Rareware is Microsoft now. Seeing their titles, I am not sure how real talents were dispatched. BlastCorps or Banjo & Kazooie were also part of this golden age.

          • Venom_Sina

            Yeah,where is that Rare that we used to know?The quality of their games are dropped really bad these days.The situation get worse if you compare them to the older titles.

          • Full Options

            +10, I don’t know what happened, maybe Nintendo was not happy with how they handled Donkey’s franchise, but I loved Rareware’s Donkey’s rebirth too !?

          • Venom_Sina

            I didn’t play their Donkey Kong game,but I’m sure it’s good.We will never know what happened in the early years of 2000s.

          • Full Options

            As I remember, the Banjo’s and Donkey’s “engine” were not that far from each others… With 4th wall winks such as being able to play very first Donkey’s inside the game. I think NOJ (Nintendo of Japan) was not properly debriefed about Rare’s efforts. It may look ready to shoot but I can tell.

          • Venom_Sina

            Yeah,that’s a possibility.
            One other thing:I always wondered how Rare could pull off something like Perfect Dark on a tiny 32 Megabyte N64 cartridge?What will they do if they have a 700MB CD or a 1.35 GB Gamecube disc?You know,I wanted to see a PD on GC,but… they parted ways.

          • Full Options

            Haha, right question man ! Think about people complaining why V rooms in 25Gb only… ;D The same guys can actually be judged or what… The first metal gear was 128 or 192–>k<–, not sure… Check demo makers, guys pulling the hell out of computing. Konami's roms were packaged as well, products, not demos. Kojima was not the first to realize good roms, but was the first to drastically innovate what was ever playable. I mean, we can feel the difference.

          • Gray Lion

            I liked Raiden too, I thought he had a very elaborate and deep backstory. And I sympatized with him. And the fact that you get to wield a katana and deflect bullets while playing with him only enhanced the experience.

          • Gray Lion

            Well… You got me there… I really don´t know :S

          • Full Options

            I think, seeing the respect shared between Volgin and BB, that he is totally controlled by Mantis. Of course, BB is an easy picture of Volgin failure and Skullface is using it through Mantis but Volgin fight[s] in MGS3, along with young ocelot starting to understand… Volgin knows that Naked was not who really doomed him.

          • Full Options

            Good question, I am not sure. Maybe they are after Ocelot only, because they want Venom for themselves.

    • Gray Lion

      I agree with you on most things. I think that the fact they ignore Ishmael is to make you doubt if he is an allucination or not. At least, it got me second-guessing and doubting he was real. That and that Max Payne-esque jump of his near the end and then he disappears only to appear outside. After seeing the “Truth” ending I was a bit put off. I seriously believed him to be an allucination and, quite frankly, I think the game lead me on on that until the very ending. I got played like a damn fiddle.
      On a side note, don´t hate on the RE3 magnum ending, brother. I took pleasure in seeing Jill finish that bastard Nemesis off like a badass, we deserved that after all the shit that thing put us through XD
      EDIT: that BB ass shot, tho <3 XD

      • Venom_Sina

        But it didn’t work on me.The avatar creation thing almost ruined it for me.And Ishmael was a real person for me.He kills,he opens doors,he distracts soldiers,he drives.I had doubts that this guy is BB,but at the same time,I didn’t think he is BB,lol.

        • Gray Lion

          I started doubting Venom´s identity when I saw his reflection as the avatar I created in the ACC, on heli´s window.
          At that time I just brushed it off as normal, I thought it had something to do with the FOB game. I thought I would look like that to the opponent while playing the FOB inflitration. You know, “there is only room for one BB and one Snake”, I thought it was part of being immersed in the whole experience. But as time went on, I started thinking about it more and more… And the fact that they blatantly show the names of the characters as a kind of “cast” at the beginning of every fucking main mission ruined the ending for me.
          It blatantly distinguished BB from Venom right at the beginning of the “Truth” mission… That thing ruined most of the surprises throughout the game. You always knew when the Skulls were going to show up and whatnot. I absolutely hated it..

          • Gray Lion

            Exactly, Nyx! It kinda ruined the experience… But I had that same exact face whenever I read in the opening credits “Guest Starring: The SkULLS Parasite Unit”. XD

          • Das Hunter

            yeah when you saw it and you were prepped for a regular stealth mission and you like this is gonna be a walk in the park. it didn’t ruin the experience it just came at you with pre-emptively pant shitting.

          • Gray Lion

            For me it did. I wanted to be caught off guard and be forced to improvise and adapt as the mission went south. But I understand where you are coming from 🙂

          • hahahaha damn that’s accurate, i remember whenever that appeared i shat myself

          • Gatsu

            Loool funny gif xD so true haha.

          • Greyfox98

            The accuracy hurts!

          • Batzi

            I stopped looking at the opening credits after a certain amount of missions.

          • Venom_Sina

            Oh,those Bullshit credits in the beginning.Oh man…

            There are a lot of moments that game ruins it for you.Seeing the AI for the first time:I mean how the hell a damaged AI pod can understand that this guy is not BB?What is that,a DNA scanner?When the AI got damaged,it got a lot of skills,lol.

            Liquid is not related to you:At that moment,I was sure that guy was a body double.

          • Gray Lion

            That AI pod bit… I actually didn´t pay much attention to it, I thought it was broken and therefore was just saying random shit. I did however think that the AI pod would have a more active role in the game story… But nope. In hindsight, it was a bit of a bullshit thing to do, Kojima could´ve used the Boss AI a lot more… I understand that TPP is not PW but… Yeah, I was a bit bummed out by that. I loved the Boss, I wanted her to be on TPP in a more active role, even if it was through the AI pod.

            Oh…When I heard that tape, the one where ocelot states the result of the DNA thingy, I opened my arms and shouted: “OH, DEAR KOJIMA IN HEAVEN, PLEASE DON´T TELL ME PYTHON AND SELKAN ARE RIGHT. WE´LL NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT.”.

          • Well he wasn’t Gray Fox. 😛 They were right about the body double theory though, but Gray Fox wasn’t in the game in any way, shape or form.

          • Gray Lion

            And I am glad he was not in the game… Still, I would like to know how did they actually cross paths again… When I started playing I was half-wishing Gray Fox would be a yet to be revealed buddy, though XD

    • Venom_Sina

      I forgot a critical point,so I’m gonna write it here:

      13.BB is in danger,right?So why keeping him and his phantom in the hospital?They could’ve moved these two guys to some place safer.

      • Gray Lion

        At the time they were safe… Although I found it moronic, they could´ve separated both of them. That would lower the chances of BB getting under fire.

        • Venom_Sina

          We see a scene like “2 weeks after awakening”.I think it’s a good time to move these guys to some place safer.Or like you mentioned they should’ve separated the two.

          • Gray Lion

            Yeah, they did not exactly think that through… I was a bit put off by that. Also, did you notice that Ishmael gets stabbed by Quiet and then a few moments later there is no wound, no blood on him?

          • Venom_Sina

            Yeah.He doesn’t show any sign of pain or something.Maybe he’s a T-1000,lol.

          • Gray Lion

            After reading your comment my mind started playing Austrian Death Machine´s “I Need Your Clothes Your Boots Your Motorcycle” XD
            That would explain a lot. He didn´t leave Venom Snake to forge his legend, he left him because he went back to protect John Connor XD

    • 01. She actually does something (like picking a gun) and she thinks that he is in the condition right now where he can’t do shit to her. That’s why you see that delay. It is also a good and well directed moment where you can see her face and what she is going to do with you.

      02. Whoah man. You know, the best way to kill everyone is to throw a grenade in the room and be done with it. You can apply dozens of things what should be logical in this situation but it should not be the case. The reason she ignored Ishmael is to show you how angry and ruthless she is. Killing you with a knife is more efficient but the player should not forget her face. That’s the idea. I mean, really… Killing everyone inside the room could be much easier if you shoot everyone, but that’s not the point in this scene. It is about showing you a character and the situation. you just started the game, you have no control whatsoever… You can’t do shit. It’s a cutscene from a first person perspective.

      03. Because showing you “that” will ruin the Ishmael’s character identity. I think the lighter is a sign that he is… Who he is. You have a proper sound of it. That is enough. You don’t always need to show things, sound is enough to explain certain things in the cinematography.

      04. You never know that actually if there are just nurses. It’s first of all an atmospheric moment. I liked it because XOF soldiers looked like a ghosts in that fog. Fox Engine is amazing.

      05. Because again, it is there to show you that Ishmael is gone somewhere while you tried to get to that place… That prologue also has things from Japanese horror movies. this moment is one of them.

      06. wut? What do you mean? What is the moment?

      07. Here you have a problem with Hideo Kojima’s directing that moment. Soldiers are not stupid, they are just presented in a way that if your character will move you will die. It’s a horror again.

      I don’t see a reason continuing this. I think you have issues not with the prologue, but the way it was directed. I mean, so far I have no problems. You just described things that are common for movies/cinema and cinematography in general. Prologue was not realistic but it was made for the entertainment. You saw it from a third person perspective. I mean, past games… There were the same delays for some moments and camera tried to hide something important from the player.

      • Venom_Sina

        01.She picks up a gun,but waits for 4 seconds and does nothing.She should complete her objective.She’s not here to show me her face.She wants to kill me,I don’t need to know her face.I want to get out of this situation as soon as possible.At least we can have the BB jump sooner,so I think it would make much more sense.

        02.Yeah the best way is a grenade,but she needs to ID the target and confirm the kill,and by throwing grenade,there’s a chance they throw it back at Q.”The reason she ignored Ishmael is to show you how angry and ruthless she is.”I think the reason is she is stupid.No one leave a dangerous threat alive and goes for a man that can barely moves.

        03 and 04.Unfortunately I don’t see any brilliant directing and an exiting thing in that Smoke scene.I can’t accept that nonsense,cause Fox Engine did an amazing thing with the scene (Which again I don’t see an amazing thing in that scene)

        05.Again I call it bad directing.Ishmael is standing right there and does nothing to save V,and after 5 seconds he understands that he must help V.

        06.The moment after the hallway shooting and before that “blend in with the dead bodies” moment.V and BB are stuck in a room and 2 XOF guys come in and kill every patient.

        07.Yeah,I have huge problems with his writing and directing in this game.V moves clearly and soldier does nothing.You are here to kill this man,so kill him and get outta here.

        • 01. You, as a player should know her face. It is familiar to the player and it raises more questions. There is no problem in that moment at all.
          02. That is subjective. You can’t say that. She is not stupid, she did what she felt right. You can’t argue here at all, because it was an artistic decision and it’s a writers/directors vision. I liked it. I enjoyed the moment where she tried to show me how badass she was. After that tutorial, when I met Quiet for the first time in the Afghanistan It just made the whole tutorial level even better.

          03/04. There was no nonsence. Smoke grenades are a precaution. You said there were just nurses and shit but at the end of the day most of the XOF units were killed. So they did what special forces do in these situations. They should protect themselves, but Ishmael and Venom are not just nurses or regular patients, they are soldiers to so they know what they are doing.
          05. he is in front of the ppl there man. He does not see Snake really.
          06. Man, this is a tutorial section. This is the first time player could experience stealth gameplay or a stealth puzzle. it was simple but explained what you should do to avoid them.
          This tutorial in general showed you how these two guys are so damn lucky and avoided most of the contact with XOF soldiers.
          07. the moment soldier saw Venom’s face? He tried to figure out if that was the target. For the player it was a signal that “yeah, your character is done” but then…. things happen again and it saves your life.

          Man, you look at the prologue from a perspective that you should not look at. This is a tutorial. Amazing tutorial that blows away the player when he experiences it for the first time. It’s not trying to be realistic. It tries to be mysterious with classy JP horror sections as much as possible.

          • Venom_Sina

            For 01,02,03,04 you will hit me with artistic vision and directing techniques everytime,and I don’t see anything exciting in it.Best to leave it here.If we continue,we will end up saying the same thing to each other again and again.

            05.When they enter the hallway,BB goes for the room on the right,but V moves forward.The man you saw got shot was another patient.When V turns to see his back,BB is shown in a brief moment,standing in the doorway.Look again carefully.

            06.This is a tutorial,right,but they could’ve chose a way better hiding place for them.They should’ve created a room where you have to move in order to survive,not just sitting under a bed.That way is better for a tutorial and it will make sense storywise.

            07.For the first part,yeah we can accept it in some ways.

            ” but then…. things happen again and it saves your life.”There are a lot of “things happen again and it saves your life” moments.They are too much IMO.For the first time it’s okay,for the second time,it’s ooookkkkkkaaaayyyyy,but not for a 100th time,lol.They get lucky almost every time.Count the luck times from the beginning.That is too much.They should’ve named BB and V “Lucky Luke”,lol.
            This luck thing destroyed mission 45,too.A random sandstorm,a random soviet soldier,a random deaf soviet soldier,a random venomous snake,a random “whether will clear shortly” moment.And I found a critical flaw in mission 45 that completely ruins the mission.It’s more funny than emotional.I will post my thoughts on that one too,at a later date.

            I want to look at the prologue as a fantastic opening,but these flaws and errors don’t allow me to.I can’t accept a lot of nonsense and then say:”Wow,what a great directing vision Kojima has”.His way of directing and writing has changed since MGS3 and that’s why 4,PW and V have a lot of flaws.Look at MGS2.You can’t really find bad writing and directing in that title.It’s 99% flawless.But what about MGSV?…

      • glitchbomb

        This us pretty much what I was thinking as i read his comment.

    • SNKtheStampede

      First of all: Hi guys!!! 🙂 I’m back from the “MGS related internet blackout”. I cleared all missions and I’m now s-ranking theme and doing optional tasks, so I think I’m immune from spoilers, though you never know… So I was scrolling through the comments and… lot of negativity around guys :(. But it’s ok, I understand that, but I don’t want to adress it now, cause I read also this interesting comment from Venom_Sina. I’m gonna write for each of your point the rational justification I could find, not that I’m 100% convinced about these, are the first things that came to my mind, but you know it’s just about sharing opinions and trying to reach a better understanding of the game together.

      1- BB is “a legend in the eyes of those who live on the battlefield” and Quiet as a soldier could have idolized him so she couldn’t kill him right away before admiring him just for a few seconds. Or, even though she recognized him at a first glimpse, then when she is in front of him she is a bit misleaded by the horn and the recent facial surgery.

      2- She ignore Ishmael because she believes him to be just a normal patience who tries to defend another patient throwing things, so she thinks that a knife in his shoulder should be enough for k.o.

      3- Once you know Ishmael is BB it’s easy to believe he had a lighter, even if we know from a cassette tape that he suffered beacause nurses didn’t let him smoke. He uses that only at that moment because before it would have been useless, not having launched the flammable medicinal bottle to Quiet.

      4- They launch smoke grenade beacuse they are after BIG BOSS, not nurses and doctors.

      5- That’s tough… maybe Ishmael needs some time to assure that the room is clear so he let V “hidden” among others before coming back for him, when it’s almost to late.

      6- They wear masks that limitate visibility, it’s dark, the two adults are BB and his best man!

      7- One thing here: have you noticed that Ishmale urinates to simulated death? I thought that was pretty cool! That’s why xof don’t shoot him: the notice the pee thing on the dead just before him so the don’t waste a bullet on him. The delay on shooting V could again be the time to recognize him. XOF don’t think they are in danger so they don’t have to rush.

      8- They aren’t immune! V got injured on his leg.

      9- 10- Maybe Volgin wants BB to recognize him before killing him? Maybe he still doesnt’s know he has a weak point or he just can’t realize it logically. He wants BB to feel terror and fear before dying.

      11- Is really that clear that Ishmael gets shot there? I thought he passed out for the impact of the glass.

      12- We must remember that V has hallucinations and we can’t tell how much of that is real. Oh by the way, it was cool to see were the unicorn hallucination comes from (from the statue out of the hospital).

      13- It’s Zero’s strategy to hide in plain sight. Even his hideout was a simple block of flats with lots of entries.

      That’s it. I know a lot of these are weak, but I hope you will appreciate my attempt.
      Good night.

      • Venom_Sina

        Welcome back,man.It’s good to have you here.And thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

        01.Yeah,maybe she tries to idolize him,but she chose a bad time for it.This man is a legendary soldier.You don’t know his next move (even if he woke up from a 9 year coma).It would be risk to wait in front of this man.BB is one of the guys that you should shoot first and think later IMO.

        02.But that normal patience seems to know how to defend himself.It would be a risk to leave him like that.

        03.In some ways,it makes sense.I’ll take the hit for this one.

        04.And that BIG BOSS just woke up from a 9 year coma.Also,he’s just one man.I think a lot of XOF guys can handle a thing like that.

        One other thing:Why XOF forces don’t use radio to give away BB’s location?It’s like they are living in 1600s,lol.

        05.He had enough time for makeing sure that room was clear(around 30 seconds).He just stayed at the entrance and did nothing for 5-10 seconds.He should’ve called V to that room way earlier.

        06.If that mask limited their vision,why they put it on in the first place?seems that XOF soldiers don’t have field of vision.They are like MG1’s guards.They only see their front,lol.

        07.Okay,BB dodged it,but what about V?He doesn’t do anything,also he moves his hand clearly showing that he’s alive,but soldier just looks at him instead of shooting him.

        08.Yeah,but why the foot?His head was more exposed to the projectiles than his leg.

        09-10.V slipped out of Volgin’s hands like a fish for 3 times,and Volgin still wants to be recognized by V?The first time is acceptable,but the second and third not.

        11.Yeah,we can say that he didn’t shot,so I’ll take the hit for that one too.

        12.Yeah,V has hallucinations,but Ocelot saw that thing,too.So it was real.

        13.Yeah,it is the plan,but keeping them in a hospital for 9 years and don’t move them is not a brilliant idea IMO.They should’ve moved the two after the awakening IMO.

        Thanks for sharing you thoughts with us.I hope we see more in the future so we can discuss more about the game.

        Good night to you bro.It’s late night here too and I’m going to pass out,so Good day and night to all of you bros.

        • SNKtheStampede

          4- Don’t know if XOF are aware of BB condition: Skull Face believed him dead, then noticed Mantis powers, investigated the cause of his plane crash and following Mantis and Volgin found Cyprus. They don’t have the entire picture for sure.

          8- I know, but it’s still acceptable, it’s a choice of script. Besides, “fortes fortuna iuvat” in the end.

          For the rest, your point is legit so it’s just a matter of point of view, taste and interpretation I guess.

    • Jav

      You are right in everything. The prologue was my first disappointment. I hate those fucking delays, in the prologue and the rest of the game. And the big cause of this are the “long shoots scenes”. Very bad executed.

    • No Place For Hayter

      You are right in most of those, the only thing you got wrong was about Volgin delaying his attack, there is an actual reason for that. Volgin did not know who was Big Boss, he sees two of them before his eyes, he even mostly looks at Ishmael, not you, so while he is ragging he is still hesitant and unsure as there are two Big boss’s before him, and while yes it is also done for a cheap dramatic effect there is an important reason why.

      Here is my more complete thoughts on TPP, careful though, it is massive, took me about a week to write after I finished the game entirely.

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BTozddhXWI1AjTAQ9YmK_Iu8Kn09V1B3tV4XVq7J-rg/edit?pli=1

    • Batzi

      @venom_sina: It’s a game. Deal with it.

  • Dr. Miles Manners

    Instead of being another pretty face on the modeling world, now she’s got a special place on millions of peoples heart thanks to being associated with such a big gaming franchise. I’m glad since I like her very much and she deserves all the love people are giving her.

    Not to mention that I have a weak spot for cute, beautiful woman over “hot”, voluptuous ones.

    • Gray Lion

      In my sincere and honest oppinion, she´s both super cute and a hottie. I just love that smile and those eyes of hers, they´re so mesmerizing <3

    • Bożydar Mazur

      Her eyes man.

      • Dr. Miles Manners

        Yep, I love girls with colorful and beautiful eyes like hers. I’m glad we got to knew about this person. She’s adorable!

    • PsychoMantis18

      “Hot” and/or voluptuous women can be cute and/or beautiful. These are not exclusive terms.

      • No Place For Hayter

        Yeah, also “Hot” “Cute” “beautiful” are personal words which change from person to person, where as “voluptuous” is more of descriptive term.

        • PsychoMantis18

          100% right-on and said it much better than I.

  • FoxTamerMGO

    If Stephani Joosten was ugly, nobody would have given a single fuck for her.. but yeah.. that’s humans for you.. judging people by their genes.

    • Meumels

      Being a crybaby like Liquid? “Boohoo i’ve got inferior genes…” >.> get over it.

      • And he had superior genes!

    • Gray Lion

      Lol
      Brother, that´s a harsh thing to say… For one, I don´t think we are judging anyone by their appearance (at least I am not). Most of us here are just commenting on the character, not the woman behind it. Secondly, we never had the opportunity to meet her, so we can´t exactly comment on her personality.. So yeah, there´s that.
      Yeah, she´s cute and Quiet is sexy. So what? Do you think she would get the part if she was ugly? Unfortunately, no, she would not. But it is not about the woman behind the character, it is about the character itself. Kojima handpicked her himself, I´d like to think that he chose her because she´s more than just a pretty face to entice gamers.
      Lastly, if we are indeed objectifying Stefanie, you yourself are doing the very same. Should we shake our heads and assume she´s just all looks and no brain just because she´s beautiful? Or that if she was ugly she was therefore more interesting as a character and as a person? I don´t like oversexualization of women in videogames and I think the reason Kojima presented for Quiet being nearly naked is a very flimsy one indeed. But I also think she did a fine job as Quiet and no ammount of oversexualization or such accusations can ever top or tarnish that.
      Oh, and that “that´s humans for you.. judging people by their genes.” line made me lol very hard.

      • FoxTamerMGO

        I want a woman that holds the characteristics of the boss DX not some shallow character.. She’s an assassin at first > tries to kill BB > gets burned > want revenge for trying to assassinate someone and failing > with time, she suddenly likes the “silent” Venom Snake > fall in love with him without even having a conversation.. what a “character”. Lol reading back my comment about the genes makes me lol too.. but as harsh as it gets, that’s the reality.

        • Gray Lion

          You want a woman that retains/incorporates the characteristics of The Boss? That´s simple, stick with The Boss and don´t project a character onto another. They are as dissimilar as they can be, brother. You see a shallow character, I see a character that had a lot of potential and sadly could´ve used a bit more developing. She was nearly as silent as Venom Snake and that is weird, when I think about it.
          I actually enjoyed that side of her, I grew to depend on her a lot during my playthrough. I found it natural to admire her skill and appreciate her support. And I also saw it as natural that she would develop a certain affinity for my character. We were a team and a hell of a good one at that.
          For me she was more than a pair of breasts or a stock sexy character, she did a lot for me out on the field… So yeah, she was underdeveloped. But I also think it was just that – she did not speak, I never did learn a lot about her. “Homo homini lupus est”. But time passed… And I came to depend on her, I trusted her, I made my strategies around her capabilities.
          “Love can bloom even on the battlefield”, right?I found the final part of her arc a bit disappointing but I also liked it. I felt the same about Sniper Wolf when I first played MGS, I saw no reason other than fanservice for her to exist. But since then I replayed MGS a lot and came to terms with the character.
          All in all, I liked her. I think that is also part of the experience of MGSV for. You get to carve out your story, your own way. You do, act and feel what you do in the moment, it is unique to every single person. I just happened to sympatize a lot with the character and not just with her chest and her butt.
          And that is ok, I think. We´ll just have to agree to disagree 🙂

          • FoxTamerMGO

            The things is.. If we compare Quiet with The Boss.. Quiet has beauty/no personality, the boss is somewhat beautiful but her strongest asset is her personality.. My question is why kojima made a character that only has beauty? physical beauty is something you get by your genes, you have no control over it. So, am I supposed to like her because of her genes, because she’s beautiful? When someone think about Quiet, what first comes to your mind? “Oh she’s beautiful” and what first comes to your mind when you think about the boss “She has a great personality”.. once you take Quiet’s beauty out(that is genetic and has nothing to do with her morals).. what else remains in Quiet? nothing. That’s why i think she’s a bad character. That’s my opinion tho.. nothing is comparable to The Boss <3

          • Gray Lion

            Please stop saying “genes” and related words, I lol every single time.
            I said it before and I say it again, brother: You are compairing two very dissimiliar characters and trying to project one character onto another. Don´t get me wrong, I love The Boss. But she is a motherly figure, the master, the one that shaped Naked Snake into what he is. She will always will be.
            She also is linked to the Philosophers and they elaborate a lot more on her backstory. She is the archetypical lone, self-sacrificing hero to the very end. And that is fine, she does a very fine job as Big Boss´ mother figure, nemesis and potential unrequited love interest.
            Quiet, on the other end, is a very enigmatic character.
            She starts as an opponent and she gradually turns to someone you can rely on. Sure, she can´t talk, there is not much conversation or character development there… Still, I see it as something else. You are anchoring your arguments on “she´s just a pretty face”. I see her as a useful ally who saved my ass an infinite number of times. I don´t limit myself to see her as a pretty face.
            And I believe that has an emotional impact on my character and on hers. I took her along a lot, I got lots of cool war stories to tell about her… So maybe that is why I like her so much. She was exceptionally skilled, she was reliable and I grew attached to her as Venom Snake and felt sad when she was forced to leave.
            But as I stated before, that is my take on it.
            And that´s the beauty of MGSV, your experience is yours alone and you can only retell it to others, not have others experience it through your eyes. Experience is truly what shapes you. And that cannot be replicated through words or conveyed through thoughts. You´d have to be me, you´d have to see it through my eyes and you never will; just as I will never will see things through your eyes. And that is fine, it is what makes a debate so interesting. And, above all, I respect your point of view. That just doesn´t mean I´ll agree to it 🙂
            So…
            Once again, we´ll have to agree to disagree, brother 🙂

          • FoxTamerMGO

            What’s the difference between D-Walker/DD that also helps you in the battlefield and Quiet? both of them are silent, the only difference is Quiet is a pretty face that try to seduce you with her butt/boobs in the helicopter every second she can.. nothing more nothing less.

          • Gray Lion

            That argument is like beating on a dead horse.
            You are focusing on her looks, good for you. You find her overly sexual, good for you. You want to put Quiet side by side with a central character of the series (The Boss) or with a glorified war robot or with a supposedly half-breed dog and compare each one to her? Be my guest. I just find the argument ridiculous, at best.
            One could argue that D-dog has no value because he is cute and you can pet him or that D-Walker is all costumizable and shit but serves absolutely no purpose other than making you feel like a cool mecha otaku with a clear bullseye on your back while you awkawrdly, control-wise, pilot it. These statements in no way represent my take on any of the buddies available in MGSV, though. I am just trying to show you that we can get into an asinine and petty argument real quick, real soon.
            But I can respect your outlook on Quiet; you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine, brother.
            The fact of the matter is: neither of us are changing our own views on Quiet and that is a good thing. We are very different people, we had different experiences with the character and each of us are clearly biased on background, cultural and personal levels. And I believe that has a profound impact on how we see the character.
            So yeah, you wanna narrow it down to breasts and butt, go right ahead, brother. We´ll agree to disagree on that.

          • FoxTamerMGO

            “So yeah, you wanna narrow it down to breasts and butt, go right ahead, brother. We´ll agree to disagree on that.” Nope, i’m not narrowing it down into breasts and butt, however you’re attempting to shape my argument around that thing and that’s not the case. I mentioned that if she had a personality I would like Quiet so much.. but that’s not the case, she doesn’t have a personality. And of course, you gonna say “Oh well, but I built a bond with her in the battlefield, she was useful”.. being useful doesn’t give her a personality..

          • Gray Lion

            I am attempting nothing of the sort. You are assuming that I am, though. And you know what they say about assuming, it makes an ass out of you and me. Like I said, you say she has no personality. Fine, your take on it and a valid one at that. I say otherwise, also a valid statement. Let´s just give it a rest and call it quits.

          • FoxTamerMGO

            Alright, and sorry bro.. the discussion got heated over here DX

          • Gray Lion

            I am the one who´s sorry. I am very sorry if I was rude or inapropriate torwards you or if I offended you in any way. I love the community and I never meant to start a flame war with a brother on MGI. Cheers, brother 🙂

          • Gatsu

            It’s nice that you guys can end such discussions in polite way :). Comments can sometimes get a little heated yeah xD. I enjoy reading thoughts of others, most of the time.

          • Gray Lion

            At the end of the day we are just two very passionate fans. And that is just what brings us together in this community, our love for Metal Gear 🙂

          • No Place For Hayter

            I know right, lol, I love how it usually ends this way, lol.

    • FMercenary

      Sure, if you start thinking analytically about things we could come to the conclusion that many aspects of the world around us might influence our perception of others in deciding whether we find them attractive or not, or perhaps it’s just part of our nature as species, but at the end of the day what can I do? I can try and suppress myself to think and feel different about these things in hopes that I might be doing something right, but at the end we do judge people on more than just their appearance. So yeah, I don’t know Stefanie on a personal level but I can’t help when I think that she’s the most beautiful woman in the world. But who knows, maybe my judgment is clouded? Who knows? I don’t.

      • Gray Lion

        Or maybe you are right and people should be complimented if they deserve it. It has nothing to do with judgement, brother. Stefanie is very cute, that is a fact and it does not diminishes her as a woman or as a human being one bit! 😀

        • FMercenary

          True. She did do a good job in bringing Quiet to life through the mocap. That’s one thing I like about MGSV, it’s that characters’ movements are animated and don’t feel stiff like other games.

    • Gatsu

      I don’t judge persons like that.

    • No Place For Hayter

      Sorry for being natural, we as human beings judge our mates also by how they physically look as we are seeking someone whom not only fits our preference but are also easy of child barring, hence why large breasts and butts (read hips) are a general preference in society. Too call that a bad thing is very ignorant, lol, you sound like a lonely fat ugly lady whom is jealous of the pretty girls getting all the boys, lol.

      And you would be right if you were talking about people being sexually attracted to her, but you said like her period, which is in fact not true, who gives a shit what the actor looks like as long as they play a good character well everything is amazing in my books. You can’t be rude or generalize about such topics you have to clearly state what you mean and why, because if you don’t you come across and ignorant and simply bitter and creating problems where there are none.

      • FoxTamerMGO

        My real beef isn’t with stephanie, it’s with quiet as a character.. Kojima clearly created her for the perverts out there.. a character without personality, oversexualized.. I don’t like that in gaming, especially in my favourite game. I can just go watch porn if i wanted oversexualized women -__- Eva kinda did the same thing but guess what? she had a personality and a valid reason for doing it.. wanting the philosophers legacy for china, she had to seduce snake.. I have no objection to that.

        • No Place For Hayter

          Plus she actually wanted to bone snake, lol, I agree with you on the Quiet character though, but don’t let that colour other things 🙂

  • Meumels

    People who executed her in mission 11 be like: “who the f* is stephanie joosten?”.
    I wonder what happens to mission 45 when you’ve executed her and whether you can still 100% the game :

    • Gray Lion

      You have a point there, brother… I never thought about it…

    • there’s simply no mission 45 if you do that, i know because i shot her on my first play through

      • Gray Lion

        That´s ice cold, brother XD

        • hehe it just felt right to me at the moment

          • Gray Lion

            At first I thought about doing it but I was afraid I´d lose some important piece of narrative… I´m glad I didn´t XD
            And did you complete it 100% after killing Quiet?

          • nah, i don’t have enough time to play, so i won’t get the 100% for a while

        • Mr. Sir Shpee

          was not expecting the Dr. Dre at the end

  • Gray Lion

    Hey, @Nyxus:disqus ! I missed this, the thread is going bananas with comments! I caught a damn cold (and I forgot where the cold medicine is XD) and I still don´t feel like going to bed. It´s good to be back here and see all the guys actively engaged in discussion again! Thank you once again for your hard work, Boss! 😀

    • Good to see the community is still around almost two months after the release of the game. 🙂

      • Gray Lion

        And hopefully will be for years to come 😀

      • NakedSnake85

        of course we are!

      • Gatsu

        Yeah its great :D, some of us just took a short break.

      • Plissken

        Of course we are, love MGSV or hate it, we’re still one of it’s “fans”

      • Greyfox98

        Where else would we go?

      • No Place For Hayter

        OF COURSH!

  • hunner

    Scroll down to see a civil war in the comment section lol

    • – Fighting has Broken Out Among staff

      • No Place For Hayter

        Cause we have a trouble maker >.<

    • Mr. Sir Shpee

      Oooh! I’m excited to read the comments now.

  • I see that the community morale has decreased in the comment section, what’s going on lol

    • hunner

      We need to dismiss all the trouble makers.

    • No Place For Hayter

      It’s post MGS syndrome, give it time, lol.

  • cklambo

    Talk bitch!

    • hunner

      I ain’t telling you… jack shit!

  • Jav

    Such a bad actress. I wonder if she had had sex with hideo to get the job.

  • Loup L’Orange

    I love her so much. She’s so sweet, beautiful, and she actually is a fan of video games. She deserves all the good things coming to her. I really hope her career blows up even more.

  • ALIE7N

    +++BREAKING NEWS+++

    ==WE INTERRUPT OUR REGULAR BROADCASTING WITH THIS SPECIAL REPORT==

    Massive Staff and Other Personnel Layoffs occurred in the Big Boss organization this morning. Several hundred were dismissed without warning as Big Boss culled through personnel files.

    Terminal Rooster was one of those who lost his job this morning. When asked why he was laid off Terminal Rooster replied, “I don’t know, it just isn’t fair!”

    The front offices official statement was, “All of those dismissed had unacceptable E or D ratings. At least Big Boss didn’t kill them when he fist saw them. We are not so sure he will be so kind in the future.”

    One of those unfortunate enough to be dismissed was Sly Sloth. He told us that Big Boss dismissed him simply because of the near vicinity he occupied to Golden Badger who had four Ds in his profile. One click away apparently just isn’t good enough.

    Will these kind of unexpected massive dismissals continue in Big Bosses organization? When reached for comment all Big Boss would say was, “hmm.”

    The future may likely be tentative for all personnel with low ratings. It seems that profiling and targeting will be the new norm. Stay tuned for further notice.

  • Tong Ninja

    This should be a really fun and interesting interview! 😀

    Hopefully we will get some intriguing insider information from Kris on MGS1-MGSV. Also Paul Eiding is awesome! 🙂

    • Gatsu

      Didn’t we already get Paul Eiding?

      • JJBYACH

        Yeah, but he’s so awesome that it’s great to bring him back again – plus with Kris…

        • Gatsu

          I agree, Paul interview was the best :D.

      • Tong Ninja

        Yeah, but I think they said Kris wanted Paul Eiding to come on with her as well.

        They are going to interview Christopher Randolph and Stefanie Joosten for the second time as well in the near future. 😀

  • PhantomSnake

    somebody tried to claim that on my video to where I am trying to expose a cheater that they used a wormhole to kill me on the PS4 version. I want to make people aware that people have already started to mod their guns somehow in MGO 3. look at the beginning of this video. this is not ny video but some one on my channel claimed it was impossible to hack the PS4 version of MGO 3 and calling me a sore loser.
    https://youtu.be/vBSPeO5En9U

  • BurntFM

    I think Stefanie Joosten is great. Couldn’t have been a better casting. I saw her let’s play on her channel and it was really cool to hear insight on the mo-cap sessions and when she finally faced of against “Quiet” you can tell how flabbergasted she was to see herself in a video game. Coolest thing though was seeing her beat Quiet with non lethal and finishing the fight wit a CQC kick. Completing those mission tasks on her first playthrough.

    Only one explanation

    https://imgflip.com/i/szsy8

  • Tsitiko

    Soo what do you all think of boosters, I personally can’t stand the cheating assholes but that’s just me

  • PhantomSnake

    look up MGO 3 cheats on Google videos. shit has gone crazy!

    • PhantomSnake
      • MrVux007

        Not sure what the arrow is suppose to point out…
        But keeping in mind that MGO2 suffered from some “level up” exploits and even aim-bots(yes it was on a PS3,for a while) and later on they implemented an anti-cheat system im pretty sure this will be the case for MGO3…

        • PhantomSnake

          The arrow is supposed to point out a specific way an opponent kills you. and supposed to have a picture of the weapon/ method. there is an Icon for every method including cqc and explosions all the way to Fulton extractions. some people have clearly found a way to get into the system itself and auto kill their opponents as documented above. it is sad people have to resort to such methods instead of playing fair.

          • MrVux007

            i really hope they will implement an anti-cheat system like they did in MGO2…these things,unfortunately,takes time….i hope meeting these cheaters hasnt ruined the experience to much for you

          • PhantomSnake

            it sometimes does but the cheaters don’t happen frequently. I still play MGO 3 and I find honest players a majority of the time.

  • PhantomSnake

    more cheating
    https://youtu.be/_ rEv3qRxIN0

  • MrVux007

    (off-topic)
    goddammit i haven’t even played Dark Souls II and now i see this shit…

    • Gatsu

      Goddaaaamn, I’m looking forward to DS3 so much :D. Prepared to go beyond death…once again. That dragon is badass. Also creepy boss, encountering these things for first time is so amazing, when gotta figure out how to fight them.

      Dark Souls 2 is great, but coop summoning was worse than in DS1, because can’t stay with other player for very long time. Still DS1 is my favorite of the games. I wish I could get my PC version working again properly :(.

      • MrVux007

        I wasn’t planning on playing PvP to much….since im more of an PvE kind of a guy….still im really excited to see what DS3 will bring to the series
        have you ever played Demon Souls ?to me its better then Dark Souls…

        • SNKtheStampede

          I played theme in order. Demon’s Soul is Darker than Darks Souls for sure, but my favourite remains DS1; perfect balance both in gameplay and story legibility, and man! Lordran!!! The level design, both visual and structural is phenomenal!

          • MrVux007

            (FLASHBACK INTENSIFIES) L(O_o)J

        • Gatsu

          I played it long time ago but I like DS1 more for some reason.

    • SNKtheStampede

      Have you guys tried the beta? I found it A LOT harder than previous installment. I think they accelerated gameplay to much. It seems Bloodborne with even faster and aggressive enemies. They will balance it I hope. Challenge we like, but they must not cross the line of enjoyability. Also visually speaking, I found it very confusing, because of the greys palette color, and the crazy number of destructible elements on stage.

      • MrVux007

        Nope i have not gotten my hands on BETA,since “real life obligations”….. -_-
        but the game does seem more difficult and refined

    • Gray Lion

      I never played anything from the Souls saga… Is it worth it? Is it also tough as prehistoric shit as all the people are saying? I would love a nice challenge…

      • MrVux007

        oh its tough alright and also considered one of the best games ever created(especially Demon Souls)….
        if you like hardcore games in general i would recommend playing them…

        • Gray Lion

          Well, as long as it is fair and has a complex equipment system, I´d play it any time. I don´t mind hard games, I just can´t stand unfair games. I think I´ll start with Demon Souls, I can get it cheap on a second hand gaming store near my house. Thank you, brother! 😀

          • MrVux007

            no problemo!

          • Gray Lion

            The only game that really challenged me to adapt to each situation and mindfucked me equipment-wise was Vagrant Story, all those years ago. I still find it a masterpiece of dungeon crawling and rogue-type RPG. Considering the hardware and software limitations, it was the best of its time on the original Playstation.
            I loved Skyrim (it somehow reminds me of my grandmother, she was from Norway and always had some epic folktales to tell, lol) but I did not find it challenging… Still, I found it good. It´s a game where you can literally squeeze every penny you paid for it, I have it since 2013 and I still play it XD
            I will get Demon Souls next week, thanks for recommending it! 😀

          • Gatsu

            LOL this is like the best pic ever XD. I felt the same way.

      • Gatsu

        It’s amazing with cool fantasy world and monsters. Epic boss fights :). They’re challenging games first but you later notice that patience is the key to survive. You will die a lot, but it also teach you how to surpass tough parts.

        They don’t hold your hand and tell you where to go etc, I love that about them.

        You should try them :).

        • Gray Lion

          I will, Gatsu! Thanks! :3

          • Gatsu

            Np :). If you ever get to Dark Souls, I suggest picking it up for PS3 maybe. PC port was done quite badly and requires some mods to get it working properly. DS2 work well though from the start. I should try replay Demon’s Souls again someday :D.

          • Gray Lion

            My pc is quite literally a tool for work. I mainly use it for to do University and translation work and to access and comment on social pages, nothing more XD I never was a pc kinda guy, anything besides working on excel, powerpoint or word is quite beyond my skills, so I know nothing about mods or the like XDDD
            I will pick it up for PS3 and will do it ASAP. There´s this second hand and vintage gaming shop here that has the sweetest deals on used games, so it´s a win-win situation! Thanks once again, brother! 🙂

          • Gatsu

            Glad to be helpful, I don’t think you will regret it. After playing those games, other games didn’t give me much satisfaction for quite some time. Souls games are just so good and Bloodborne too!

            I hope you’re ready >:D. <3

          • Gray Lion

            I wish I could play BloodBorne, I´ve seen some let´s play of it and it was just soooooo good. But my GMP is in the red, I can´t afford a PS4 for the moment. But I´ll get to it next year, I´ll get a PS4 when The Last Guardian is released…

  • SNKtheStampede

    Guys I have a question (maybe it’s already been discussed here, if so I apologize): didn’t Naked Snake lose completely is eyeball? What is it with Venom’s grey eye? Is that supposed to be a glass eye? If that is a real sick eye, than maybe that’s the first hint. I thought that immediately the first time I played. Also, the doctor says that the shrapnel hits against the optic nerve causing hallucination: it must be the sick eye nerve right? Because there is the shrapnel. I’m not a medic (I know I know, we all are medic) but if Naked lost his eyeball then is nerve must have died too, so it should send signal to his brain no more (I really don’t know what I’m talking about here so please correct me if you have the knowledge).

    • MrVux007

      i read only the first sentence you made,since i want to avoid spoilers(havent played MGSV yet)
      Big Boss(Naked Snake) didnt lose his eye,he was blinded by the muzzle flash from Ocelots revolver….and before you mention the blood, it was likely added for more “cinematic/dramatic” feel
      here is the video showing the bullets trajectory

      • SNKtheStampede

        Yes I noticed that already, but the blood being just cinematic never got me. My interpretation on that scene has always been that the eye melts down because of the intense heat provoked by the shot. Looking the scene again the distance seems longer than I remember though… uhmm.. I just couldn’t accept the blood if the eyeball is safe.

        • JJBYACH

          The extreme pressure build up and sudden release of the muzzle flash aimed directly at his eye would realistically cause some sort of blood vessel in his eye to pop, causing blood spray – it was greatly exaggerated in the game but you would still bleed regardless.

          • SNKtheStampede

            Thanks for the info. Yeah it’s just the quantity of blood that strikes me.

      • SNKtheStampede

        Oh, I didn’t know you still haven’t played it. Sorry man. But you are taking a huge risk roaming around here. Go away! I couldn’t avoid major spoilers in your situation, that’s why I suggest you to leave comment section until you play it. But if you are capable of that, than you have my compliments (I bow) 😉

  • kuaikukia
    • korruption

      I concur.

  • PrinceHeir

    I’m enjoying Quiet as a buddy, but not as character so far(still early in the game).

    I do love her backup support. She’s an amazing sniper, but the AI can be pretty dumb at times where she keeps running towards her position and circling around instead of taking position.

    • korruption

      I’ll take that over the constant humming whilst she’s on lookout and I’m looking for S-ranks.

  • FOX

    i hated the game because once she’s gone, you can never use her as your buddy and she is the most fun to play with. What kind of stupid decision is this for a game that has too much replayability?

    • hunner

      If you could still use Quiet after her death it would make no sense at all and make her sacrifice pointless

      • BigBoss_S_Rank

        In Peace Walker, even after defeating Paz when she stole Zeke she still remained in your Mother Base staff list for “gameplay purposes”. Story wise she was ofcourse removed from Mother Base but you could still use her as an asset so the gameplay was unaffected. There was even a special message about it in the game explaining this if i remember correctly.

        And this is something they should have done with Quiet too. You can have her dissapear story-wise but for gameplay purposes she should still have been useable as a buddy. As FOX said, in a game that is hell-bent on “replayability” losing an entire buddy option is just inexcusable and plain stupid.

  • Video Games Reloaded

    Thanks for sharing this story guys! Not sure if you missed out on the Donna Burke one we did a few weeks ago, here’s a link in case you did: http://www.vg-reloaded.com/metal-gear-solid-v-interview-donna-burke/

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