David Hayter on Kojima’s absence from TGA 2015: it’s a shame he got frozen out

Speaking to website Dorkshelf, David Hayter, the former voice of Snake, commented on the situation with Kojima and Konami, and the recent story of Konami’s lawyers preventing Kojima from attending The Game Awards.

I know some of the players, but I don’t know what the story was with Konami and Kojima, it’s a shame that he got frozen out, if that’s true, while his game is getting recognized as being awesome. He always makes awesome games. But I don’t know. I have been in fights with corporations before and they can be ugly and they can be difficult to understand, so I wouldn’t want to speculate.

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As he said before, David Hayter doesn’t plan on playing MGSV, as it would be painful for him to see someone else play Snake. But despite this, he does feel the game looks amazing, and he doesn’t hold a grudge against anyone involved.

I think it’s great that they’re celebrating Metal Gear and the game looks amazing. It looks like another leap forward in technology. I don’t begrudge anybody any awards.

To read the full interview, follow the link in the source section.

Source: Dorkshelf

  • Spectralbuttplug

    Was he sarcastic about the leap because a lot of players the open world was worse.Im not one of those though

    • Doesn’t sound like he’s being sarcastic.

    • Show me these, I’m sorry “not very clever people” who says that Open World in this game was worse/bad.

      It’s a leap in the technology. It’s the only open world game that is another leap in the technology. It’s the only true Sandbox stealth game right now that does everything right.

      • Spectralbuttplug

        I did say that I think it’s a leap.I was JUST FUCKING CURIOUS

        • Mr. Sir Shpee

          Obligatory post

      • OcelotSilver

        People were probably expecting Kojima to provide an RPG-like NPC’s that give you the backstory of MGS world in the open-world structure hence why people don’t like the open-world.

        Sadly the creativity and the overall structure of MGSV gets overlook by majority just because it puts the empathsis somewhere compare to other open world.

      • Full Options

        😀 What’s sad is that some people desperately need to exist through foolish statements, without even trying to define / understand first and at least for themselves, what they are criticizing.

        Ranking V as a bad “Open World” game is as logical as a statement like 0=1 or something… !?

        I don’t know if V is the best “Open World” game out there but I am quite sure that Koji-Pro integrated the best simulation mechanics ever created so far.
        They were yet very advanced in this field, for example, one just need to check the MGS3’s fauna system and compare it with any other game out at this time, if not sure.

        Koji-Pro always stays the best at what they invent, it is their style / signature.

    • Tong Ninja

      I think he meant improved technology in creating the game. Facial capture, motion capture, better lighting, use of Fox engine, etc.

      • Spectralbuttplug

        Yeah I suppose but open world stealth also counts though 🙂

    • César H. Sandoval

      The world of MGSV can be very sterile for a Sandbox, but the leap in tech is there.

  • Tong Ninja

    David is a cool dude. 🙂
    Really hope that David and Kojima are cool with each other now.

    Fair enough that he doesn’t want to play MGSV, but I don’t think he would be able to finish it because it’s a pretty long game (even without doing all the side ops) … haha. He would need to devote a lot of time.

  • ARIOCH

    Who else read his quotes in the Solid Snake voice? LOL.

  • Gatsu

    Thanks for this Nyx :), nice to hear David’s thoughts. It’s a shame he don’t play it, but it might feel too weird for him to not hear his voice.

    He’s right about MGSV being a technological leap. MGS always are somehow, Kojima and folks are so amazingly talented :D.

  • CR7HarisSnake

    The fans wish you all the best David 🙂

  • Jav

    With you the game could have been better.

    • OcelotSilver

      All i know is that mission 43 would have a laughing stock compare to the intense and powerful that it is in the final game.

      • Jav

        The best words in ep43 are from huey. He and kaz are the best actors in v.

        • OcelotSilver

          The best scenes in mission 43 are easily of Venom. Kaz and Huey were awesome but none of them even come close to being the highlight of mission 43.

          • Tong Ninja

            “I won’t scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea …. I will always be with you ….. Plant your roots in me … *rubs soldier’s ashes on face* …. I won’t see you end as ashes …. *sniffles* … you’re all diamonds”.

            Probably my favourite cutscene in TPP. Left a tear in my eye. haha

          • Gatsu

            I cried buckets in that scene. Kiefer nailed it so perfectly <(^O^<).

        • Tong Ninja

          For me it was Zero (Time Winters). I thought he nailed all of his lines in the truth tapes. Fantastic voice acting. 🙂
          Kaz (Robin Atkin Downes) was awesome as well.

          Kiefer did a great job but he wasn’t given much lines to work with. haha
          If he was given more lines, I think he would of been fantastic.

          • Jay Tavare also did a great job. But yeah, Time Winters was awesome.

          • Gatsu

            10000% agreed :D, I never thought that we would hear him at the very end though. I would give my left arm if we could see those tapes as cutscenes and Zero speaking to SF too, damn that would have been epic! Buuuut would’ve required so much more work to do facial captures etc.

          • Mr. Sir Shpee

            Kaz stole the show tbh

    • Gatsu

      He would have still talked the same amount. I missed his voice though in some moments at first, but imo Kiefer is really good in MGSV.

      • César H. Sandoval

        Hayter should’ve voiced Ishmael only, and they should’ve kept Surtherland for Ahab.

        • Kol Leqejza

          + the real big boss in GZ, too

        • Gatsu

          It’d been great, but then the body double twist would have been way too easy to notice.

          • César H. Sandoval

            It already was! Kojima telegraphed the hell out of the ruse every chance he could, we knew Venom was GZ’s medic months before TPP was even released.

          • Gatsu

            I know, I followed the development through the years. But I still wasn’t sure I was playing as a doppelganger.

            But if I had heard David as BB in GZ and Ishmael, but not as my character in TPP, I would have thought like wtf? Why is David the other person, but when both had same voice it’s not so clear imo. It wasn’t 100% confirmed to be medic.

          • César H. Sandoval

            It was confirmed the minute we find out the Medic was also voiced by Keifer, just like Ishmael and Ahab, like 3 days after GZ released, plus they hiding his face so awkwardly and having him shield BB from the Chopper’s shrapnel and blast.

            Still, no use arging about this “what-if”. Things are what they are.

          • Gatsu

            I don’t think it was confirmed, but fans were guessing and did loads of theories. You’re right though, there’s no point in discussing this haha.

      • Jav

        But he could make noises… hmm, grrr, aggg,

        • Mr. Sir Shpee

          hmmgrraggmetalgearrrr

    • Mr. Sir Shpee

      Personally, I don’t think David could have done as well with the emotional moments as Kiefer did. Imagine Hayter in Mission 43 for a minute.

      I really like David, but I feel Kiefer did much better in TPP than David could have. Fight me.

      • Jav

        The only thing I remember of venom in episode 43 is the I will always be with you moment. And I didnt feel anything there. That is why I dont understand why people cried in that episode.

        • Mr. Sir Shpee

          I didn’t cry myself but I choked up a bit. Shooting all your own men was pretty taxing imo

    • FMercenary

      This begs the question: what would David Hayter sound like doing Snake’s voice NOW? Would he have done it the same way as the past games or would he have change it up a bit, without sacrificing the aura of Snake’s voice, to accommodate with the use of motion capture so it can flow more naturally?

      • Jav

        I think he was emotional in 3 and 4, so there is no problem with v.

  • OcelotSilver

    Maybe i am in the minority here but David not playing the game simply because he isn’t in the game seems egotistical as hell. I can understand about Kojima not playing his games since he created them and doesn’t want to find all the glitches or flaws in them but David literally has no excuse aside from “it’s not about me so i’ll pass”.

    • Gatsu

      I agree with you. I love David’s voice and work as Snake, it’s like a part of him. But he should really try play the game and it would be interesting to read what he think of it and Kiefer.

      Sure it can feel weird to him not being in MGSV, but it’s still MGS and really amazing game… That alone should be enough reason to at least try it.

    • César H. Sandoval

      Think of it like you working on the same office for 15 years even taking paycuts when they need to pay the other guys more, then they suddenly fire you with a lame reason like “yea Silver, you’re cool, but this Keifer guy, he’s a REAL office worker!” and then they create this product, and later someone comes to your house and starts telling you every chance they can “Hey Silver, this stuff that you used to make is even better without you! Product of the year even, why don’t you buy it huh?!” Even tho the guy they got to replace you ended doing only like 1/5th of the total work you used to make before.

      • Cobra Commander

        I totally agree.
        As MG fans we are on the outside looking in fondly at the MG series, while you could say David is on the inside looking out.
        You have to put yourself in his shoes, I mean we are only human.
        I think David is taking the whole thing rather well. If I ever lost a good chunk of my life’s work because I was traded in for a “New” model I would be pissed as hell!
        Cesar pretty much said the same thing I thought. I think it puts the whole deal in a more perspective light that we can all elate to.
        Say you lose a job of 15 years just because they want someone new.
        Then think of how you would feel if people wanted you to sit front row at this guys award ceremony, or have to give a speech for him.
        He also gets paid more than you did, while doing a fraction of the work.

        Anyone who says they are ok with that is a fucking liar!
        Hell 5 minutes into my dismissal I would be planning how to steal this guys family, and destroy his life.
        David Hayter is a bigger man than me.

    • Braden Gunn

      I kind of understand, in a weird way, I imagine it would feel similar to when you still have feelings for an ex, but have to accept that they’ve moved on, and are with someone else.

      For David, seeing Snake but hearing Kiefer is probably a similar feeling to seeing someone you care for with someone else, and to play through the game would be forcing himself to go through that sensation.

      Sorry, I’m probably not making much sense, I know what I want to say, but I’m not entirely sure how to phrase it.

      • Cobra Commander

        I get exactly what you are saying, there is only one problem I have with what you said.
        While reading your analogy, it gave me this odd picture in my head.
        I pictured a little cartoon drawing of Kiefer making out with Snake in a comfy little house, while David has his hands and head pressed against the glass window crying.

        I have never viewed the David/Kiefer/Snake debacle in this context before.
        Now I imagine it will always be the thought that comes to mind from now on.

        Thank you very much for that Braden, LOL!

        • Braden Gunn

          That’s quite alright xD

    • FMercenary

      He can always try playing it on PC with the subtitles on and a mod that omits Venom Snake’s voice, but he has to read the subtitles out loud with his own current take on Snake’s voice and a good mic positioned next to him connected to a recorder. *hint* *hint* 😛

  • replayedforlife

    seriously? “too painful to play…”?

  • Xilurm

    I wonder if he will be in Kojima’s future project. Whatever that is.

  • Gatsu

    Any guesses when we hear some new stuff about MGS movie :)? It would be cool to know the actors that play the characters, hoping they choose good ones :D…

    • Xilurm

      I doubt that’s even happening at this point, with Kojima out of Konami and all.

      • Gatsu

        :O…

        • Xilurm

          I worry that if Konami decides to go through with it, they are just going to give the rights to someone to make a mediocre movie at best. Like most of video game movies.

          • Braden Gunn

            I mean if Konami is willing to give the film rights to anyone then I’ll happily take them.

            Be a few years before I could do anything with the rights mind, but that’s just more time to perfect the script xD

      • They did announce the writer back in March: http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=18836

        • Xilurm

          Oh bother, it’s just some random guy. What are they thinking? I know Avi Arad knows Kojima but still.

          • Almost everything we’ve heard about the movie is reason to worry.

          • Gatsu

            It would still be interesting to see it lol :). XD

            Mortal Kombat is still the best game adaption imo!

            Too bad Paul Anderson slaughtered Resident Evil series after this and Silent Hill (which is my favorite too), btw the last RE movie coming next year I think omg.

          • Cobra Commander

            I disagree, Super Mario Bros is the best game movie ever!
            Actually, I think you are right. Mortal Kombat (The first movie anyway) is probably the best game movie ever.
            I think it has a lot to do with the actor selection for the movie.
            Christopher Lambert, awesome Raiden!
            Can’t remember his name, but Liu Kang was great!
            The absolute best one was Shang Tsung!
            How could you not like Shang Tsung, his actor is the guy who always plays the bad Japanese guy or Yakuza boss.
            Kind of like how you couldn’t have an 80’s movie without Billy Zabka being the dickhead bully.
            I did however find this video rather mind blowing.
            http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DC_Gz_iTuRMM&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiA8fe38N3JAhUFYiYKHQ33BeoQtwIIFTAA&usg=AFQjCNFaoaEyRn6OzmNmf0vSqRauztPQXg

    • Full Options

      Which actor would you prefer for Snake, btw ?

      • Gatsu

        One can dream.
        http://i39.tinypic.com/biov0z.jpg
        The movie will be about MGS1. Sean Bean always dies in his movies anyway, so he’d be a good Liquid lol.

        But I haven’t really thought about actors who might fit in it, Bale is amazing actor :). I think Kojima was hoping for Hugh Jackman.

        • Full Options

          😀 Yeah, for oldo, no possible discussion… xD Kurt RuleZ, Kurt IS SNAKE xD

          Curious, Sean Bean has my favor also, must be something with the shape of his face… Very Snakish indeed.

          I think Mel Gibson would also rock ! 😀

        • Full Options

          Lol.. So it is Jeff Bridges… xD Thought it was Snake… I mean Kurt.. xD… I still want Kurt as old Snake… :p

        • Full Options

          Lol.. So it is Jeff Bridges… xD Thought it was Snake… I mean Kurt.. xD… I still want Kurt as old Snake… :p xD

          • Full Options

            xD

          • Cobra Commander

            It’s raining cats and dogs out there.
            Oh gosh, what I’m really looking for is a girl with green eyes.

            Chinese Madam: Chinese girls do not come with green eyes.

            I probably screwed that all up, haven’t seen Big Trouble in Little China in a while.
            I remember watching it from about 4 years old on.

            I could really picture Kurt Russel in there somewhere.
            I suppose that’s because Kojima got a lot of inspiration from Kurt’s Snake Pliskin.

          • Full Options

            Or with Terminator’s Kyle Reese / Michael Biehn as Snake on MG1’s box art as well !

            But Kurt / Plissken is the Prophecy’s chosen one… 😀

          • Gatsu

            Big Trouble is sooooo amazing ^_^. It got so much weird in it lol.

      • hunner

        Christian Bale for Snake. He looks like him, he’s an amazing actor, and could probably do the voice sine he was Batman lol.

    • hunner

      I wish they would make a Metal Gear anime instead. Each season would be 1 game.

      • Mr. Sir Shpee

        I had no idea I wanted a Metal Gear anime. Holy shit I need that

      • Gatsu

        That’d be incredible ^_^.

  • Looking forward to his soon-to-be performance in Bloodstained!

  • ObsessedGeorge

    This goes for David Hayter! 😛
    https://youtu.be/5AhGj4oisfU?t=7h26m7s

  • No Place For Hayter

    Sounds like he is losing a little of his salt. That being said it took Kojima getting fricked by Konami before Hayter lost some of his bitterness.

    Breaking news, corporations suck, lol.

    • Mr. Sir Shpee

      I wouldn’t quite say that. After all, he refuses to play TPP since he’s not in it. Seems pretty salty to me either way.

      • No Place For Hayter

        “losing a little of his salt” does not mean he isn’t salty anymore, lol.

        Also him not playing the game makes sense on many layers including ones of experience and being sentimental, it isn’t about being salty, though I’m sure that is part of it, but lets not over simplify it and say it is all about being salty when we know there is more to it.

        • Mr. Sir Shpee

          Fair enough. I just feel like the whole thing about “not being Snake anymore so I won’t play it” screams salt to me.

          • No Place For Hayter

            Agreed, definitely some salt in it >.<

    • Tong Ninja

      What’s interesting is that Hayter said he too was involved in a fight with an evil corporation in the past. I wonder what company it was? haha

      XD who knew that corporations in real life are evil, greedy and corrupt just like in the Hollywood movies! haha
      Although I’m sure there are some good companies around the world …. 🙂

  • biggy cross

    I like David as Solid Snake he’s the classic. But big boss is supposed to have a different voice. Even though in mgs3 it was David Kojima himself said big boss was supposed to have a different voice.
    However I don’t like that they didn’t talk with Hayter first

  • Full Options

    Off-Topic : SW7 has come to and its awesomeness is likely confirmed ! Yeah ! 😀
    According to some, “JJ Killed it” 😀

    • To be honest, that’s the movie that everyone should judge for themselves and don’t look for the reviews because it has been hyped to death, so I’m sure it will be positive.

      Even metacritic page was changed just because of the “Star Wars” brand – http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-vii—the-force-awakens

      • Full Options

        You are 1000% right. I just hope they are all really happy. I was worried about what JJ + Disney planned. I will watch it tomorrow, in 30 hrs… Can’t wait !
        First impressions look re-insuring but you are right, may the Force be with us on this… Always…

    • Gatsu

      I expect it to get superb reviews :), will go watch it this week or next.

      • Full Options

        May the Force be with you then, brotha … 😉

        • Gatsu

          Aye :D, this Saturday <3. Can't wait!!! The Force is strong in you, mah brotha.

          • Full Options

            So strong too in you the Force is, Jedi Masta brotha ! 😀
            So you go on Sat ?! I am dying here… ~26 hrs prior to launch, holding tight… (>_<)

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